Sheng Long

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It's now official

The Obama-era net neutrality rules, passed in 2015, are defunct. This time it's for real.

Though some minor elements of the proposal by the Republican-led FCC to roll back those net neutrality rules went into effect last month, most aspects still required approval from the Office of Management and Budget. That's now been taken care of, with the Federal Communications Commission declaring June 11 as the date the proposal takes effect.

While many people agree with the basic principles of net neutrality, the specific rules enforcing the idea has been a lightning rod for controversy. That's because to get the rules to hold up in court, an earlier, Democrat-led FCC had reclassified broadband networks so that they fell under the same strict regulations that govern telephone networks.

FCC Chairman Ajit Pai has called the Obama-era rules "heavy-handed" and "a mistake," and he's argued that they deterred innovation and depressed investment in building and expanding broadband networks. (Read his op-ed on CNET here.) To set things right, he says, he's taking the FCC back to a "light touch" approach to regulation, a move that Republicans and internet service providers have applauded.

But supporters of net neutrality -- such as big tech companies like Google and Facebook, as well as consumer groups and pioneers of the internet like World Wide Web creator Tim Berners-Lee -- say the internet as we know it may not exist without these protections.

"We need a referee on the field who can throw a flag," former FCC Chairman and Obama appointee Tom Wheeler said at MIT during a panel discussion in support of rules like those he championed. Wheeler was chairman when the rules passed three years ago.

https://www.cnet.com/news/net-neutr...icially-dead-open-internet-congress-now-what/
 

Blader

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Oct 27, 2017
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People picketed and protested and called their congresspeople and this shit still went through without any of their approval. Don't let anyone tell you you're not living in an oligarchy.
The people elected a Republican congress and a Republican president who have been championing exactly this kind of position toward net neutrality for years. Republicans turned out to vote when it mattered and Democrats did not.

This is not living in an oligarchy. This is living in a democracy with a shitty electorate.
 

Br3wnor

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Oct 27, 2017
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Gonna be real interesting how the telecoms slowly start implementing this shit. I'm in a 2 year contract with Fios so I'm assuming they can't fuck with my plan until the contract is up, but we'll see with my Verizon cell service, it's month to month (outside of phone payments) so they can force changes, will be looking to bail if they start going nuts.
 

nintendoman58

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Oct 25, 2017
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This is ignoring all the state laws being implemented and court battles that are currently going on right now.
 

BlackLagoon

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Oct 25, 2017
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Be interesting to see how this develops. I'd expect a lot of vertical integration, with ISPs having their own/partnered preferred streaming services. Wonder if that will happen with gaming? Say an ISP partners with Microsoft so you get bandwidth caps/throttling for Steam/PSN while Win10 Store/Xbox is unlimited.
 

HarryHengst

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Oct 27, 2017
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You guys cannot stop voting for republicans, so the result is you continue to get fucked by their business interests.
 

marrec

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Oct 26, 2017
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Oh no there's no coming back from this impossible to correct permanently implemented thing!

Oh wait, what I mean to say is, this will be reversed.
 

Wolf

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Oct 25, 2017
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Meanwhile, Washington state signed our own NN bill into law.

Get fucked, Ajit, you inhuman scum.
 

Amnixia

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RIP. Sucks but hopefully this will convice people to stop voting for big money so it can be overturned in a few years.
 

HarryHengst

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Oct 27, 2017
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The act passed by the FCC barred the states from developing their own net neutrality plans. So it's going to come to a head with lawsuits between ISPs and the state governments. If the ISPs win, then net neutrality is forever.
Thats amazing. Well played by the republicans and their love for small government and letting states take care of things.
 

zombiejames

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Oct 25, 2017
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Assuming outcomes like this are part of the reasons why Trump became president in the first place.

''No way he wins, impossible, I don't even need to go vote.''

Look where you people are, now.
I tend to look on the positive side of these things. Just because they're shit now doesn't mean they'll be shit forever.
 

Calabi

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Oct 26, 2017
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Over the coming months, you'll start to see ISPs bundle content together under the guise of "simplifying Internet access for 90% of our users." You will pay a very low price to access only the essentials...that's where it will all begin.

People will be a lot less hostile because they'll ease it in very slowly as an affordable low-cost option. Then slowly but surely they'll start removing options for "unlimited Internet access," or they'll limit it to their business plans...or they'll jack up the prices for an "unlimited Internet access plan" like what Comcast did if you didn't want data caps.

I dont know, I think they'll start in the background first, they wont start with the consumers. Like what they did with Netflix. Throttle their service unless they pay up, bribing them except its all legitimate and fair now. Netflix and whomever they try it with will have to pay up because theirs nothing they can do about it.
 

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The people elected a Republican congress and a Republican president who have been championing exactly this kind of position toward net neutrality for years. Republicans turned out to vote when it mattered and Democrats did not.

This is not living in an oligarchy. This is living in a democracy with a shitty electorate.
Are we missing the fact that the Republican president only won and appointed the person who killed Net Neutrality because of an antiquated system specifically designed to benefit his party and that he lost the popular vote?