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Netflix reportedly mulling new ‘Ultra’ plan, cutting ‘Premium’ streams from 4 to 2
- Thread starter chadskin
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Netflix doesn't seem to understand, that with all the exclusive content on different platforms, customers will want to subscribe to multiple services to see all the popular shows. So good luck with increasing their prices. Will be funny when Disney launches their own platform next year and starts to remove the Marvel / Disney stuff from Netflix.
In Germany they're also testing a €19.99 ($23) 'Ultra' option that exclusively includes HDR while not limiting the number of streams on Premium:
Wow 6 € is a ridiculous jump. 72 € for an entire year of HDR basically... Amazon Prime Germany costs 69 € a year. When the price of a HDR upgrade costs as much as an entire different streaming service you fucked up.
Because they have an enormous amount of off sheet debt.
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4062029-forget-valuation-netflix-major-solvency-issues
Again, Netflix do not have a Disney deal in Europe, and their growth has done fine.
And the vast (vast) majority of European subscribers are also subscribers to other services already.
This.
I'm not paying more just for HDR.
HDR and 4k go hand in hand why separate. Lame.
Who in germany pays that more just for HDR? Lächerlich ! Throw in 1 or 2 extra devices and this is maybe something to consider. I share with 4 buddies so i don't mind little price raises as long as i can keep sharing my account and split the bill.In Germany they're also testing a €19.99 ($23) 'Ultra' option that exclusively includes HDR while not limiting the number of streams on Premium:
I got six months of Netflix with my TV so I got used to having it active all the time, but I need to go back to subscribing for a month or two every year instead. That 20€ tier with HDR is ridiculous.
They still have multiple Disney/Pixar movies, multiple Marvel movies and of course all those Marvel TV shows. When Disney will launch their service, it's only a matter of time until they will lose most of this content / the license to make new content.
And you don't think this will change when they a) increase prices that much and b) lose content at the same time?
If I had any Netflix stock, I would sell. Their shares seem highly overvalued, and the streaming market will be much more competitive in the future.
There's still not actually any evidence at all Disney even are launching a service outside of the US (other than the ones they already have, obvs), and Disney's statements on pulling content only relate to the earlier window US deal.
Maybe. But historically the likes of Sky et al have been able to retain sufficient share to still grow, so probably less than many here think.
I wouldn't disagree with that. I'd totally sell any Netflix stock I have and buy Disney stock with it (then again, I'd generally do the opposite of Era generally on stock given some of you bought Moviepass and Game UK stock!)
They do, but not everywhere in Europe, because there is no Country of Europe and licensing is done per country, not continent.
Fuck me. I'm the person that pays for Netflix for 3 other people in my family. This is going to be awkward.
By "Disney deal" in this context I mean a first pay TV window deal, which is the "Disney deal" that is ending in the US.
Netflix and Disney do not have a first pay TV window deal in any country in Europe, and never have.
HBO was $14/month in the states back in the 80s. If you wanted Cinemax, that was an additional $10/ month.
They are going to raise prices. If they first increase on accounts with more users and more data from their servers then that makes the most sense. What are you going to do, go back to cable and pay $10/mo per receiver?
Oh, its Europe. Yeah I can see it not being worth it as you have less content. In the US, half of the shows I watch are on Netflix, 40% Hulu, 10% HBO. So its $45/mo for all, still a good deal.
If anything HBO is on thin ice. 2 shows per year and more expensive.
Oh, its Europe. Yeah I can see it not being worth it as you have less content. In the US, half of the shows I watch are on Netflix, 40% Hulu, 10% HBO. So its $45/mo for all, still a good deal.
If anything HBO is on thin ice. 2 shows per year and more expensive.
Can someone explain to me how you separate 4K and HDR? I thought HDR was a user side feature depending on if your TV supported it or not, not something able to be stripped from content? This is an honest question.
They are forgetting what made them so popular and an alternative to cable. Soon they will cost as much as cable.
Android Police is reporting that Netflix is indeed testing different things and that users will see different things: https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/07/04/netflix-testing-expensive-new-ultra-subscription-tier/
Italian site TuttoAndroid got a screenshot showing that HDR is locked behind the "Ultra" subscription tier: https://www.tuttoandroid.net/news/netflix-ufficiale-piano-ultra-587363/
And a screenshot showing that premium is limited to 2 screens and the only way to get 4 screens is to get the "Ultra" tier:
CNET sent an inquiry about this to Netflix and Netflix indeed confirmed they are testing new things and that people will see something different if they are part of this test: https://www.cnet.com/news/netflix-rumored-to-be-introducing-new-ultra-plan/
Italian site TuttoAndroid got a screenshot showing that HDR is locked behind the "Ultra" subscription tier: https://www.tuttoandroid.net/news/netflix-ufficiale-piano-ultra-587363/
And a screenshot showing that premium is limited to 2 screens and the only way to get 4 screens is to get the "Ultra" tier:
CNET sent an inquiry about this to Netflix and Netflix indeed confirmed they are testing new things and that people will see something different if they are part of this test: https://www.cnet.com/news/netflix-rumored-to-be-introducing-new-ultra-plan/
Thanks for the post - reminded me to cancel my sub as I'm hardly using it at the moment
There's not enough content for me to justify the sub every month
I'll be interested in the 4K Premium though towards the end of the year
There's not enough content for me to justify the sub every month
I'll be interested in the 4K Premium though towards the end of the year
Yeah, I do - I was right in there, had to go out and buy a separate Videocrypt V1.0 decoder just for the Sky Channels, as the Uniden 7007 positioner / receiver I had at the time was made donkeys before encrypted content.
That was a great little bit of kit H-H mount, could get the feed for NHK in Japan on a clear day, and also the US down feed channel so could watch Star Trek TNG as it was being fed from the States to European channels.
*sigh*
So they would take out HDR from the premium offering? How incredibly fucking sad. Not gonna pay more for HDR, just not gonna do that. Premium is enough as it is and add some goddamn decent movies to your shit Netflix, wow.
People talk about this still being ridiculous value for the price, but I really think it's super dependant on the country. In US where it has a metric fuckton of content it might be true, but not here in Finland. I ain't paying more for what we have here right now.
I'll probably bail. It's not worth keeping 12 months out of the year IMO. I'm better off lapsing for a few months for content to build up.
It's almost better for me to be like 2 or 3 months on, then take like a 3-6 month break, and then resub once content has built back up. I already do this with HBO. No reason I can't with Netflix.
It's almost better for me to be like 2 or 3 months on, then take like a 3-6 month break, and then resub once content has built back up. I already do this with HBO. No reason I can't with Netflix.
No, your TV needs to support HDR for it to work, but you'll only get an HDR picture if the video signal contains additional HDR metadata. So they just send an SDR signal instead if you don't upgrade.
I'm not paying that money just to keep HDR, that's fucking insane lol.
Always love to see a new tier added that doesn't actually add anything, but just strips features out of previous tiers.
Always love to see a new tier added that doesn't actually add anything, but just strips features out of previous tiers.
I'd be curious if it also comes with a higher bitrate.
I wouldn't have as much of a problem with this if it wasn't for the fact that they already just raised the prices.
As others have said, this is starting to make some of those other "cable" streaming packages more appealing...
This!
They keep failing with adding some actual great and recent movies, unlike some other apps DO manage to get and it's really mostly about the shows from them. I'm probably sticking with premium, shame about no HDR but come on now.
I don't know if I'd continue subscribing if they did that. The UK Netflix offerings are pretty lame and a lot of the BBC/ITV/Channel 4 stuff can be found on iplayer or itv player or All 4 for free anyway.
I'm pretty happy with it in Japan. Could probably live with streams cut at this point but they lock ultra hd and I'll be sad. Especially because prime here is cheap as hell
I didn't even know there were tiers. I rarely use it anymore but the others in my house do which is why I keep it. I wouldn't pay for the most expensive now never mind if they cut features.
I think it is close to a year.
I'm expecting they'll start charging extra to get Netflix produced content at some point.
They're getting better all the time. And if netflix wants to jump to 20 bucks you could always add HBO or Stars to your sub on amazon for that price. Plus you get the free two day shipping, music streaming and other goodies. $99 a year.
I think it is available. I'm not sure how the content selection is there however. Give the free trial a go.