I'm terrified of dying, but that's not going to stop me living and doing things I enjoy.
New study states that there's no safe level of alcohol in humans
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I think red grapejuice has the same effect, minus the carcinogenic alcohol.
As mentioned before, 1 beer a day raises the risk of cancer by 10%.
And just like week they said if you don't drink alcohol in your middle age you have increased risk of Dementia...
Sake
Sake
dying is just another step in life
we live
we die
it's a part of life
let me enjoy my memories through drink
we live
we die
it's a part of life
let me enjoy my memories through drink
Don't drink and spend an extra couple of years in an old folks home with dementia instead.
I always feel like shit whenever I drink (which is about once every two months).
I quit drinking regularly about a year ago and now, if I do, it's top-shelf stuff (Laguvulin, Grey goose, etc..)
I quit drinking regularly about a year ago and now, if I do, it's top-shelf stuff (Laguvulin, Grey goose, etc..)
Buddy are you okay there
First off, I like your Avatar name. Second off, it seems you are not ready to fully understand what I wrote. One day you'll understand. You can do yourself a favor and take a short cut by doing what I wrote. Oh, and start exercising and eating well. It will do wonders for the quality of your life.
Yeah, I severely cut back somewhat recently. I have a friend who comes over once in a while (maybe every 3 weeks), and we split a six pack. It used to be...a lot. I have felt much better after the cut, and have lost weight as well.
Well if you read the quote, the idea of alcohol protecting somewhat against heart disease is still supported by the study (I don't think I've ever heard the cigar thing though). However, they're saying that any potential benefits are outweighed by the risks of it causing other problems.
That said though, There is still this:
And I find this to be the case a lot of the time. Those 1 or 2 glasses of wine are supposed to be 5 oz. glasses, which is 1 serving of wine. ...I don't see too many people sticking to 5 ounces per glass.
Well if you read the quote, the idea of alcohol protecting somewhat against heart disease is still supported by the study (I don't think I've ever heard the cigar thing though). However, they're saying that any potential benefits are outweighed by the risks of it causing other problems.
That said though, There is still this:
And I find this to be the case a lot of the time. Those 1 or 2 glasses of wine are supposed to be 5 oz. glasses, which is 1 serving of wine. ...I don't see too many people sticking to 5 ounces per glass.
I think we all knew this deep down.
Im not gonna use this study as a means to stop enjoying having a tasty beer after a long week
I can mentally acknowledge its unhealthy... hell I acknowledge that even without this study
As long as some blow hard doesnt use this as some opening to harass me for it I have no problem with them pushing this as common accepted knowledge and people shouldn't give non drinkers a hard time over it and vice versa
Im not gonna use this study as a means to stop enjoying having a tasty beer after a long week
I can mentally acknowledge its unhealthy... hell I acknowledge that even without this study
As long as some blow hard doesnt use this as some opening to harass me for it I have no problem with them pushing this as common accepted knowledge and people shouldn't give non drinkers a hard time over it and vice versa
That logic can be used to justify any kind of drunk abuse.
Sounds to me like there are some benefits and some negative consequences of moderate consumption.
To be honest, I get sick of these studies. A study comes out telling you eggs are bad and then a few years later, eggs are suddenly good. One year, Fat is bad for you, then sugar is the bad guy and fat is ok.
My advice would be to consume a variety of foods/drinks in moderation and don't worry about the consequences.
To be honest, I get sick of these studies. A study comes out telling you eggs are bad and then a few years later, eggs are suddenly good. One year, Fat is bad for you, then sugar is the bad guy and fat is ok.
My advice would be to consume a variety of foods/drinks in moderation and don't worry about the consequences.
Ya, pretty much... In this day and age, everything seems to kill you. Just do it in moderation and enjoy your lives people. No need to overreact.
You sound tremendously arrogant in the dumbest way.
We all know that it's unhealthy, silly.
I'm here for a good time, not a long time.
They can take my 2-4 nightly beers from my cold, dead hands.
The title is a little clickbaity, considering there's like, alcohol in just about anything, even your body produces some. Probably should be "drinking even a little is harmful" or something like that.
For disclosure, I recently quit, but I was already drinking so rarely that I could go for months and months and months without a drink and not even notice, so it hasn't been long enough for my quitting to really matter. I'll probably end up drinking some bare minimum champagne during stuff like new year celebration purely for social reasons (champagne is gross anyway)
For disclosure, I recently quit, but I was already drinking so rarely that I could go for months and months and months without a drink and not even notice, so it hasn't been long enough for my quitting to really matter. I'll probably end up drinking some bare minimum champagne during stuff like new year celebration purely for social reasons (champagne is gross anyway)
It seems rational to me that alcohol has significant negative externalities you don't consider if you just look at the health impacts. This study looks at car accidents, self harm, etc., and that makes sense. Alcohol increases your risk of death, I guess. Still, I feel OK drinking socially and in moderation. I can't say I can refute evidence that rates of TB change...but I think it's a risk I can manage.
This study confirms that a drink or two a day is good for your heart and helps prevent diabetes. The issue is, it increases your risk of dying in other ways and they say it's not worth it.
OMG, you are right... Wait a minute:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication
Water is bad for you, holy shit, nobody told us! Government has been trying to kill us all along!!!
I just finished my bottle of Appleton Estate 10 minutes ago.
Am I already dead?
I was always under the impression that specifically red wine gave some kind of benefit. I've never heard of any other alcoholic drinks being promoted as healthy.
I imagine this clarification is more important for dispelling the myths of alcohol
Much like the myths associated with Tobacco and other drugs
We need data like this to have ammo against snake oil salesman trying to oversell health benefits of things
And even though I feel like most people who consume alcohol know that its unhealthy there are still things out there that need to be debunked
I corrected that for you.
X can be either healthy or unhealthy for you depending on how much you consume. This is something people - in general - having a hard time understand.
Just read a diet book from a guy who analyzed a bajillion studies to come to his conclusions. He says 100ml of dry wine a day is good for health. This study here then looks at car accidents and suicides and I'm like "will 100ml of wine really make me sucidal? And I don't even drive".
In 2018 we learned (or reaffirmed) the following things will kill you:
- Alcohol
- Coffee
- Sugar
- High Carb Diets
- High Fat Diets
- Sushi
- Dog saliva
- Too much exercise
- Too little exercise
- Obsessive over news
- Being a minority in America
- Driving over the speed limit
- Working too much
- Having too little money
- Not having real life friends
- Spending too little time in nature
- Text messaging
- the sun
Ehh I wouldn't say it's complete bollocks to suggest regular post-workout drinking (a couple of beers even) will have an effect on fitness. While the research has small sample sizes, with alcohol's effects on hormonal pathways, muscle growth, and alcohol's dehydration after exercise when you sweat therefore losing even more fluids, it's not exactly going to help.
https://www.popsci.com/alcohol-exercise-recovery
Alcohol interferes with your post-exercise recovery
Strenuous exercise temporarily damages your skeletal muscles—that's how we build more. You strain yourself, your muscles incur a bit of damage, and your body takes that as a sign that it needs to build more. After all, whatever muscle you already have clearly wasn't up to the task.
That means post-workout recovery is crucial to improving your performance over time. Alcohol interferes with that process in a number of ways. For one, it dehydrates you, and you've just expended a lot of sweat. You should be stocking up on fluids and electrolytes, not depleting yourself of them. Alcohol also decreases your muscles' ability to use glucose and amino acids, both of which are essential to building new muscle fibers and blood vessels. Without a supply of energy and protein building-blocks, your body can't make itself stronger.
Alcohol also has a tendency to interrupt hormonal pathways, especially in the long term, which may make testosterone less available to your muscles. Testosterone helps your muscles rebuild and develop—generally as an athlete you want more of it, not less.
But it also varies a lot from person to person
Most exercise-based studies suffer from the same problem: small subject groups. Many of the studies on how much alcohol affects athletic performance have a dozen or so participants, which is not nearly enough to draw solid conclusions on their own. Multiple studies have shown an impact on peak muscle performance—enough for meta-analyses to conclude that there is a real effect—but others have found no impact.
Mixed results like that probably mean that some people don't see a huge effect from drinking, especially in moderate amounts. In 2012, science journalist Christie Aschwanden convinced a researcher at the Monfort Family Human Performance Research Lab in Colorado to do a study of how drinking beer affected runners' capabilities. They found (again, with a small sample size) that women seemed to fare better the day after getting tipsy, whereas the men did worse. Together, they cancelled out each other's effects.
Strenuous exercise temporarily damages your skeletal muscles—that's how we build more. You strain yourself, your muscles incur a bit of damage, and your body takes that as a sign that it needs to build more. After all, whatever muscle you already have clearly wasn't up to the task.
That means post-workout recovery is crucial to improving your performance over time. Alcohol interferes with that process in a number of ways. For one, it dehydrates you, and you've just expended a lot of sweat. You should be stocking up on fluids and electrolytes, not depleting yourself of them. Alcohol also decreases your muscles' ability to use glucose and amino acids, both of which are essential to building new muscle fibers and blood vessels. Without a supply of energy and protein building-blocks, your body can't make itself stronger.
Alcohol also has a tendency to interrupt hormonal pathways, especially in the long term, which may make testosterone less available to your muscles. Testosterone helps your muscles rebuild and develop—generally as an athlete you want more of it, not less.
But it also varies a lot from person to person
Most exercise-based studies suffer from the same problem: small subject groups. Many of the studies on how much alcohol affects athletic performance have a dozen or so participants, which is not nearly enough to draw solid conclusions on their own. Multiple studies have shown an impact on peak muscle performance—enough for meta-analyses to conclude that there is a real effect—but others have found no impact.
Mixed results like that probably mean that some people don't see a huge effect from drinking, especially in moderate amounts. In 2012, science journalist Christie Aschwanden convinced a researcher at the Monfort Family Human Performance Research Lab in Colorado to do a study of how drinking beer affected runners' capabilities. They found (again, with a small sample size) that women seemed to fare better the day after getting tipsy, whereas the men did worse. Together, they cancelled out each other's effects.
That's naive as fuck. Many people think like that when they are in puperty. As life goes on and people start to get wiser, they for sure will appreciate LIFE.
Once it's too late and people have ruined or shortend their life unnecessarily by living an unhealthy lifestyle - once illness has made them permanetely miserable, they for sure will understand this life lesson in the most brutal, hard way imaginable.
On the other hand, there might indeed be people who cannot enjoy themselves other than living an unhealthy life. Kind of a pitty really. But if that's true, then by all means they should enjoy themselves by harming their bodies and deal with the consequences.
i'm the very definition of a modest drinker
i won't change my behavior and i'll most likely be fine
i won't change my behavior and i'll most likely be fine
Reminder that alcohol tastes bad, but we're asked to keep spending money trying different things we don't like until we eventually "develop a taste" for it. Yeah, a lot of people aren't gonna go for that.
If you mean "X" as "any substance" than this statement is just plain wrong.
I wonder how many of those "benefits of drinking" made-for-morning-news studies were funded in some way by alcohol companies. The conspicuousness of never mentioning how else you can get those same benefits without alcohol always threw a red light, and made it reek or fishing for justification not to change destructive behavior.