I...don't think you read my post. 4k didn't mean resolution, in case you just aren't aware of terms used for benchmarking drives. We have no clue what either machine's SSD performance looks like outside of sequential read/write. SSDs are fairly complex, they can't be broken down into a single value for comparison.
I did read your post and I've understood what you've meant. What I don't understand is how (without even knowing specific performance data of each drive, as you have admitted) you come to the conclusion that the PS5 SSD's 4K random read speed drops so incredibly low compared to the max data points that it somehow comes within 20% of the XSX SSD's perfomance data (which magically doesn't seem to have reduced 4K random read speeds, otherwise it would also significatly drop and keep the performance difference at way more than 20%).
Thanks for chiming in.
Ah, I'm guessing that just based on how SSDs perform on the PC side of things. Random performance hasn't increased much at all, while sequential has skyrocketed. Most NVMe drives perform virtually identical in random tasks, regardless of peak speeds. Again, SSDs are complicated and there's a lot of components in them that determine their performance for various workloads. I don't think Sony is hiding anything maliciously in that area and the performance is likely very impressive and better than series x. I just think Sony wants to announce the flashiest, biggest number advantage they have, and it would be quite the feat for Sony to have such a massive leap in that area over every existing SSD.
It's actually exactly how it works. Better CPU and GPU improves both visuals and framerate. Games that may struggle to maintain 60fps during the coming generation might not if they prioritized CPU over storage for example.
Now that you mention it, I can't recall if they specified. I'd imagine it's pcie 4.0 since that's what the CPU can support and the pin layout is 100% identical to gen 3 (and trace length shouldn't be an issue in a console form factor). Would be weird for it not to support pcie 4.0, for whatever limited gains that could provide that particular SSD.
I mean, you can install it to a HDD so it's not required in that sense, but you're gonna get a terrible experience with a ton of stutter and streaming issues.
No it's the same thing, the devs do specifically target SSDs. It's just that fundamentally they don't lock you out of making bad choices :p
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SATA SSD's were not that expensive, Sony/MS would get them cheaper too.
That's not true, first PCIe 4.0 SSD came out less than 2 years ago. The fastest PCIe 4.0 SSDs in market right now are 5GB/s, and Ryzen 3 line of CPUs are the only consumer CPUs that can make use of PCIe 4.0 SSDs. By the time PS5 comes out we'll have faster SSDs around with speeds of 7-7.5GB/s, and maybe Intel will jump on PCIe 4.0 too around that time, but what you said about PCs having SSDs with speeds like these for years is just false.
No it's the same thing, the devs do specifically target SSDs. It's just that fundamentally they don't lock you out of making bad choices :p
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Only Star Citizen that we know of.
At first I was disappointed because it didn't have as many tflops but then realized "wait a minute the actual difference is only 18%, that's less than half the % difference between (38%) PS4/One and Pro/X (42%)".
Gravity Rush 2 world design is actually a good example.
Yeah, until development tools get a serious upgrade (to futuristic systems none of us can imagine, like accurate procedurally generated texture creation), asset creation in AAA games is always going to increase load times and development time to match what was there before. It won't be a smooth or sudden leap, I don't think.
Star Citizen is 100% designed around SSDs. The devs list it in their specs, digital foundry has also said as much. The game hitches and chugs on a hard drive, it needs those higher speeds to fetch data in time.
Great news, and thanks for the insight. Aren't load times rumoured to be near zero though with the PS5? I would imagine that load times will be factored into Sony's "fastest console" marketing because it's easier to explain that than how SSD will benefit game design?
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People don't realize this. Take Bloodborne for instance, take 5 seconds to slowly push this super heavy rusted gate open, you have come to this stairs now fight this enemy that will slow you down so we have enough time to load the other section. GOW, TLOU, Uncharted 4, cutscene transition to a new area, open a gate to a new area, funnel you through a single part so we can ditch the old assets as you slowly walk into the new area. Devs spend time doing all this to hide loading and now they don't have to waste time doing these things.
it is unplayable on an HDD, so yeah it is not supported. They targetted the random io of ssds in their game dev.
Earlier in the thread you were claiming that there would be no impact on graphical quality because the GPU draws things and not RAM.
I feel like when you eventually make a video about SSD speed and inevitably talk about Star Citizen you have to do this in your capture and go indepth on what makes this so impressive. :D
