Figured it deserved its own thread. Obviously super early stuff and who knows if any of this will be relevant.
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Next Generation Xbox early details (Release in 2028, Cloud-Hybrid games, potentially switching to Arm)
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Figured it deserved its own thread. Obviously super early stuff and who knows if any of this will be relevant.
Switching to ARM would be fascinating. I guess the way they handle virtualization and backwards compatibility makes this easier for them than it would be for Sony. I hope it happens just to see a more meaningful difference between the platforms next-gen (assuming Sony doesn't do the same).
How is this stuff leaking? lol
I would assume the laywers would hide this from the public and from competition
I would assume the laywers would hide this from the public and from competition
I know the basics of the different architectures, but in practical terms, what does it mean for them going to ARM? Better power consumption, more customization, better SOC?
Would they be able to maintain backwards compatibility when switching to Arm? I feel like the other discussions I'd seen around the possibility implied it would be tough if even possible but I'm not particularly educated on the subject.
You can implement a compatibility layer for incompatible titles, like rosetta on macs, but too early to tell what their long term solution could be outside of that for me
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they could build a layer that translate the x86 to arm like how the transition from the og xbox to xbox 360 on the new Series console
and submitted october 2022, so less than a year ago this was accurate information
it's exactly how they're going to do it, apple's new game porting toolkit is exactly this
All software developers, not just games, use automated testing to some degree.
guess they saw the QA testers trying to unionize around the world
Ok? Still explicitly says they're deciding between them and haven't chosen ARM yet.
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If I had to guess with a chest full of hopium i'd say it's just in addition
Because these games are getting so large and releasing in such dogshit states they feel the need to add another layer to it as opposed to adding more years to it strictly for an army of testers to flatten the game out
That makes sense, so it wouldn't be a catch all thing like XB1->XS or PS4->PS5 were? they'd have to do it on a game by game basis? I suppose they did a pretty good job with the 360 games, hopefully they can get a decent number of them. I'm curious if this would push Sony to switch over too, and how they would handle BC, as they never did anything similar to what Microsoft did for the 360 and OG.
If ARM is looking like the way forward for gaming I bet Nintendo is VERY happy to have switched when they did, though I understand it was a bit more out of necessity for them, making a mobile device and all.
Yes, but people are acting like the decision is made. I was just correcting that before people went off down the rabbit hole.
Wonder what sort of native performance profile they are aiming for it, because even in 2028/9 i dont think the global infrastructure will be in place for this device to work seamlessly for everyone.
EDIT: when i typed this I thought its meant to be a handheld, but it doesnt actually state this anywhere.
EDIT: when i typed this I thought its meant to be a handheld, but it doesnt actually state this anywhere.
Yeah in theory it should just be another layer of QA, but we know some of these companies love going for the cheaper options so I hope things don't become even worse for QA people
As mentioned earlier, most likely just a compatibility layer if they go through with it
AI cannot play test games but can help test certain things (like any software). Automated testing is anyway a big part of Software development right now, and you will still have resources to train the AI on what to test.
I have to say it's nice to get a real leak, instead of some social media nobber talking in riddles for internet clout.
There isn't much info here that the competition can do anything about to realistically change anything; PlayStation and Xbox have been working on next-gen hardware for 3~ years now.
Who ends up being wrong, or hyping up a nothingburger, more often than not.
No need to worry about spin with this, LOL.
I get that its long been popular to meme Power of the Cloud, but I feel like we're at a point where there are enough real world examples to take it a bit more seriously.
Cloud streaning is pretty efficient nowadays; Server-farms are powering services like OpenAI; Flightsim is a technological achievement and is propped up on Cloud.
Cloud streaning is pretty efficient nowadays; Server-farms are powering services like OpenAI; Flightsim is a technological achievement and is propped up on Cloud.
Welp, I'd been saying a switch to ARM was possible. This gives them the likely compatibility break they need to truly push for market share, backwards compatibility will be rough but possible. Beyond that, Windows on ARM must be making damn good progress
