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Nintendo of Japan apologizes for not telling customers that TMS #FE Encore is based on altered Western version of the original, offering full refunds
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tbh there is a point with western (at least NA) culture seemingly being ok with violence but sexuality is OMG NO THINK OF THE CHILDREN. Not saying this game is a good example of positive sexual depictions, course. That said, the rest of that wall is hilarious.
I also find it hilarious how the censorship and "as it was intended" situations are just about always involving games with sexualized minors. Coincidence? Doubtful.
I still don't feel like i played a "worse" version back then on Wii U, so i don't really understand the dimension of this ruckus.
As long as the content isn't cut short, it's fine for me. (Regarding the Hot Springs Stuff, i don't count DLC as a part of a "base" game)
As long as the content isn't cut short, it's fine for me. (Regarding the Hot Springs Stuff, i don't count DLC as a part of a "base" game)
I have zero interest in these kind of games, but I'm generally against any form of censorship or "adaptations" if you want to call it like that. If the changes only affect the Western version, then it's not that bad, but it gets worse when this kind of censorship is forced on others.
The people who doesn't see an issue in these "adaptations" are probably the same ones who criticized Ubisoft for "adapting" Rainbow Six Siege for the Chinese market.
The people who doesn't see an issue in these "adaptations" are probably the same ones who criticized Ubisoft for "adapting" Rainbow Six Siege for the Chinese market.
Maybe they can rethink the whole FExSMT thing and give us something of quality, instead of this idol shit nobody asked for.
Wouldn't have been an issue if it was the original SKU with just the voice lines changed about the age (which they actually re-recorded in Japanese for the western version).
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Same here. The changes are so minimal that people wouldn't notice them if they didn't have another version to make comparisons. And for every bad aesthetic choice, like Tsubasa's outfit posted above, there's an improvement:My take on the whole "censorship" thing:
Thing is, I enjoyed the game for what it was on the Wii U. I really don't care about the whole bikini DLC thing, especially if they're 17 year of age. To me, the changes made to the Western version were fine. The story was fun, the gameplay worked really well. I am not fine with sexualizing under age characters anyway.
Edit: my bad, this outfit was cut from every version of the game.
Or we're more familiar with the localization process than you, and understand the reasons why these changes are made.
Every fucking time.
This kind of purism makes absolute zero sense when you're asking for a localized version of the game. The only way to see the game 'as intended' is to play it in its original language, since no matter how good the translation is, a 1:1 translation doesn't exist.
My honest advice is to just pick up a Genki book and start learning. Alternative, just deal with the fact that you're not experiencing what you consider the most authentic version of the media. It's not a big deal 99% of the time.
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I promise the game is just fine without walls of underage girls in bikinis.
Yeah, all the game needed for the path to success was minors in bikinis. Damn you politically correct people, I hope you are happy! You killed a franchise!
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is it censorship if the company and creative involved decided to do it themselves?
Anyone who is only going to buy a game because it features increased sexualization of minors shouldn't be a primary marketing demographic for anything.
I think it's less that they altered them so much as it's the extent to which they did so. I'm sure some creepy people would be bothered if they just made it so you can't see their underwear or made a dress a bit less low-cut, but there'd be much fewer of them.
People are mad that sexualized underage anime girls are being censored? What am I missing here?
Yup.
Same here. The changes are so minimal that people wouldn't notice them if they didn't have another version to make comparisons. And for every bad aesthetic choice, like Tsubasa's outfit posted above, there's an improvement:
Or we're more familiar with the localization process than you, and understand the reasons why these changes are made.
That one wasn't in either versions of the previous release. Its pre release footage and nothing is really "censored"
imo the pre release outfit is just bad
The wedding dress thing is a little ridiculous, but other than that, judging by what other people have posted regarding the changes, I see nothing to get bent out of shape over outside of someone really, really wanting to be a creep. Those people can stay whining over their lack of sexualized minors.
What are the reasons? Genuinely curious about this, there's not that much talk about localization on the Internet.
The game has an 80% Metacritic score which is impressive for a game that's so far from what the average Western reviewer wants as the game is a turn-based JRPG about aspiring Japanese media personalities fighting demons while channeling the power of Fire Emblem characters. It's a great game.
Yes, with walls of under aged girls in bikinis.
Some of yall are trying too hard to justify what is ultimately, I want to have all the creepy shit they edited out.
Someone should do a ven diagram of NO CENSORSHIP warriors and paedophiles .. cos ven diagrams look like a pair of boobs. hurr hurr
No, it's not. In this case, they just decided to take the easy way and use the same version, code-base, graphics and audio to save time and costs instead of having to alter two versions for different markets. Now it's the same version for all the markets.
I would've done the same.
Well, considering Nintendo is apologizing and offering refunds, they must be pretty sizable as to not want to piss them off.
It's self-censorship yes.
All these dumb semantic arguments about the word.
My assumption is that they eventually decided they wanted to go with a T rating. The original trailers had a provisional M rating but the final release was T.
All of these changes are either for the better or so minor that they don't matter at all (though it probably wouldn't have killed them to gut some of the creepy stuff in a less ham fisted way).
That said, probably shouldn't have left this info out when asking people to preorder your rerelease. Any lost sales (which hopefully aren't many) are on Nintendo.
That said, probably shouldn't have left this info out when asking people to preorder your rerelease. Any lost sales (which hopefully aren't many) are on Nintendo.
Why is Nintendo being so dumb about this one game? None of this is remotely necessary and it's just making people mad.
The most half assed edits to costumes. I wouldn't have mind if these edits didn't look like ass
Pouring one out for people willing to pay full prize for an 80h dungeon crawler with panty shots, but not willing to pay at all for an 80h dungeon crawler without them.
Glad that this is where we take a stance.
Edit: On topic though, I welcome Nintendo being open about it and offering refunds, I have no issue with that whatsoever. If people were assuming the costumes to be bikinis and they aren't, it's only fair that Nintendo apologizes for being misleading and offering refunds. Doesn't matter what I think about it personally.
Glad that this is where we take a stance.
Edit: On topic though, I welcome Nintendo being open about it and offering refunds, I have no issue with that whatsoever. If people were assuming the costumes to be bikinis and they aren't, it's only fair that Nintendo apologizes for being misleading and offering refunds. Doesn't matter what I think about it personally.
There's a reason they made those changes. Toggle undermines those reasons
I think we can all agree that making a FE Strategy-RPG where you fight the SMT demon armies, like everyone was expecting the cross-over to be when announced, would've made for a less annoying situation. ^^
Though, it being a Persona Lite is still some great game, no matter what changes are in there or not.
Though, it being a Persona Lite is still some great game, no matter what changes are in there or not.
They should also quietly leave this forum and go back to 4chan.
Is it part of the story or not? That was my question. Is there a reason to why it would be there? It's also girls in swimsuits... it's just swimwear.
Holy hell that uncensored outfit is terrible.Same here. The changes are so minimal that people wouldn't notice them if they didn't have another version to make comparisons. And for every bad aesthetic choice, like Tsubasa's outfit posted above, there's an improvement:
Or we're more familiar with the localization process than you, and understand the reasons why these changes are made.
My biggest issue with the censorship changes was one of the dungeons completely loses its meaning.