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NY Times Spoils Batman #50 in Headline (Tom King pissed)

Pau

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That'll teach me to ever think there will be character growth and development for Bruce.
 
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I haven't gotten through most of King's run, so I just spoiled myself. Maybe someone who's followed the run more intimately knows better but the spoiler sounds a bit like a cop out to keep Batman Batman instead of making him slightly different. He has a son, why can't he get married? (At least Superman got both).

Pau said:
That'll teach me to ever think there will be character growth and development for Bruce.
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Sounds more like they took it out of his hands by having Selina to be the one who turns him down, despite Bruce's best intentions.
 
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I'm shocked. SHOCKED.

Not that shocked. Comic marriages never last. This one's just getting it out of the way before it even starts.
 
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Sober said:
I haven't gotten through most of King's run, so I just spoiled myself. Maybe someone who's followed the run more intimately knows better but the spoiler sounds a bit like a cop out to keep Batman Batman instead of making him slightly different. He has a son, why can't he get married? (At least Superman got both).
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He has multiple sons but yeah, it sounds like a cop out for just keeping shit the same. Not sure why I expected anything more.
 
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Haven't liked his run at all so I don't really care but it sucks for the creative team and the people following the story.

Regarding the spoiler...
I'm glad. I always thought this was a bad idea.
Also...



Talia forever.
You fucked up Grant.
 
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Pau said:
That'll teach me to ever think there will be character growth and development for Bruce.
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it's a cape book

Any development he's going to get is just going to be reset in 6 months to a year anyways. It's the main reason I don't really read them anymore and when I do I don't really take anything going on very seriously.
 
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I was expecting this outcome but I was still hoping that it wouldn't happen....

As a Batman fan this is disappointing.
 
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Sober said:
I haven't gotten through most of King's run, so I just spoiled myself. Maybe someone who's followed the run more intimately knows better but the spoiler sounds a bit like a cop out to keep Batman Batman instead of making him slightly different. He has a son, why can't he get married? (At least Superman got both).


Sounds more like they took it out of his hands by having Selina to be the one who turns him down, despite Bruce's best intentions.
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It feels like Selina is supposed to speak for the audience in saying that Bruce can't be happy and still be Batman. It's still restricting a huge opportunity for Bruce's development. Who knows maybe we'll get a Bruce who can be happy or okay with his life without the marriage (which honestly I would agree with.) I would have just rather have had both. I feel we will get neither.
 
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pa22word said:
it's a cape book

Any development he's going to get is just going to be reset in 6 months to a year anyways. It's the main reason I don't really read them anymore and when I do I don't really take anything going on very seriously.
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Runs are runs, sure, but King is supposed to be the golden boy comics writer at the moment. Either DC Editorial really didn't want to do it or it was the plan all along, which is a shame, cause I'm sure if King and everyone high up wanted to make Bat+Cat canon they would make it stick.
 
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King didn't want a demon to step in and erase the marriage after Alfred gets shot.
 
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pa22word said:
it's a cape book

Any development he's going to get is just going to be reset in 6 months to a year anyways. It's the main reason I don't really read them anymore and when I do I don't really take anything going on very seriously.
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Sure but at least I would get six months of stories with new situations, plots, themes, etc and ignore the next author's run if I don't like it. Instead of a retread of "Bruce can never grow beyond being an emotionally scarred and stunted eight year old."

Then again with how cyclical this shit is maybe we'll get another Bruce/Selina marriage storyline in ten years with a better conclusion.
 

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Runs are runs, sure, but King is supposed to be the golden boy comics writer at the moment. Either DC Editorial really didn't want to do it or it was the plan all along, which is a shame, cause I'm sure if King and everyone high up wanted to make Bat+Cat canon they would make it stick.
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DC has been doing this same song and dance with the character for what, nearly 80 years now?

When Batman's been circling the block as a character more than 3x the time I've been alive I can't really take anything like this seriously, and I honestly feel a little bad for the people that did because they're only going to end up feeling like this in the end every single time.

The only difference here is it didn't take 6 months to happen and was just laid down immediately.
 
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wow thats fucked

As a long time fan of Peter Parker and Mary Jane I offer my sympathies...

At least yall can get over it sooner
 
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If it happened that's one thing, but the whole thing of "Bruce Wayne can never be happy" is so fucking old it's exhausting. We spent fifty issues going over all the good things in his life.

Knew it was happening in that issue with Selena and the Joker though, the minute they had that issue it was apparent they had that old tired cop out waiting in the wings.

This is why comics audience is going to die when the old heads die.
 
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Just read the issue. I probably can't technically say more than that because embargo, but

It's super shitty for the NYT to spoil the issue and it's super shitty for DC editorial to never let Batman evolve ever. At least Tom King still has Mr. Miracle, unless he's forced to fuck that up too.
 
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Wait this Catwomen and Batman marriage isn't this the one that DC has been hyping and promoting for months? Lmao I'd be pissed if I was a reader what's the point of promising something different just to take it away at the last second?
 
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That synopsis sounds like lamest shit in the world. I mean Goddamn give it a go. I mean it's a comic eventually everything resets, but still.
 
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this is the company that killed superman
and then brought him back to life
and then killed everyone who was part of death and rebirth of superman
and brought them back to life
y'all really thought there would be a permanent change to batman that they wouldn't hit reset on?
 
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