New York Times: Trump administration officials passed when Pfizer offered in late summer to sell the U.S. more vaccine doses
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NY Times: Trump admin officials passed when Pfizer offered in late summer to sell the U.S. more vaccine doses
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i really dont get it. even when they do something good, they find some way to fuck it up
yeah, this happens all of the time
yeah, this happens all of the time
This is the one with all the logistical headaches so I doubt many countries will be doing multiple orders once the other vaccines are up and approved.
Its literally part of the Republican playbook.
Shit the bed so the next Dem needs to take a whole term to fix shit up
Then point to the lack of meaningful legislation that they themselves blocked
When faced with a decision, the Trump administration will make the worst, most destructive choice. Even when the result of that choice could mean life or death for many Americans.
When you try to think about "Why would they do this?" the only answers that spring to mind are: downplaying of the pandemic and the risk it poses because of his narcissism, or he's got a grift in the works that benefits him and his ilk if vaccine supplies are even lower than they could be. It's always about him, never about us.
When you try to think about "Why would they do this?" the only answers that spring to mind are: downplaying of the pandemic and the risk it poses because of his narcissism, or he's got a grift in the works that benefits him and his ilk if vaccine supplies are even lower than they could be. It's always about him, never about us.
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Even factoring in the storage issues, the goal should have always been to have as many doses as possible, regardless of the cost.
And I also don't think the Trump administration has come anywhere close to earning the benefit of the doubt here.
Isn't this a good thing? More vaccines available for other parts of the world. I know in another thread when it was deemed that the US would get most of the vaccines first people were pissed. So this actually sounds good for the rest of the world, maybe not Americans specifically
that's only like 15% of our total population isnt it?
god dammit trump you orange pile of stank what the fuck
is this the art of the deal?! straight up being offered the solution to the pandemic and just saying...naw???
Trump cultists:
I dont need no 5g MICROCHIP implanted vaccine by BILL GATES!!!! #bigPHARMA
#TRUMP2020
I dont need no 5g MICROCHIP implanted vaccine by BILL GATES!!!! #bigPHARMA
#TRUMP2020
Pfizer is more expensive and much much harder to store and actually get to people. As people have pointed out in this thread, this may have not really been a nefarious decision if they decide to order more of other vaccines.
Of the 330 million Americans, what, 20-50% probably won't get the vaccine anyway? So 50 million people vaccinated gets us almost a third there (if we assume around 150 million will get vaccinated) and that wouldn't include any vaccines from Moderna.
The cold storage issues are overblown in my view. Dry ice time-sensitive shipping isn't some wild new concept and, iirc, it can be stored in typical freezers for 5 or so days after the initial shipment. The super cold requirement is for much longer term storage.
Is it ideal? Of course not, but it just means a bit more care needs to be taken for this one.
Is it ideal? Of course not, but it just means a bit more care needs to be taken for this one.
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Plus, you can deploy the vaccines strategically based on population density.
Concentrate Pfizer/BioNTech deployment in urban areas and Moderna deployment in more rural areas.
Yes, but...
https://globalnews.ca/news/7468036/canada-coronavirus-vaccine-rollout/
Granted I think a non-trivial amount is Canada buying to distribute to other countries who can't afford it; but we got enough to cover everyone multiple times over. Logistics shouldn't be an excuse.
Try telling the family members of a person who will die in January of February that we could have had more vaccine but it was harder to store, so we passed.
It's all hand on deck time, you order everything that is available and fuck the rest.
It's all hand on deck time, you order everything that is available and fuck the rest.
The US has ordered a surplus as well, it's not just the Pfizer one.
This isn't surprising. From Day 1 Trump has favored Moderna's vaccine - because, if the reporting is to be believed, their heads told him they could deliver it the fastest and he liked that. Perhaps the admin is favoring that one, but more vaccines - even if they're logistically harder to administer, shouldn't be an issue for the wealthiest country in the world.
its also bizzare given the upside of mrna vaccines. its 100% worth building out the cold chain for a vaccine platform that allows vaccines to be developed way faster.
Pfizer cut their expected output in half for initial shipments. So nothing more is available in the next couple months anyway.
That old "your picture is in the dictionary under 'idiot'" insult has become reality with this fool when searching through google images. May as well have him show up for "failure" too
Funny you mention dry ice:
Dry ice shortage could slow down COVID-19 vaccine distribution
There may be a new hurdle in the effort to get millions of doses of the COVID-19 vaccine, when available, to the public. A two-dose COVID-19 vaccine, developed by Pfizer and BioNTech, could be the first to hit the market. Caption: CBS12 News reporter Stefany Valderrama reports on how a dry ice...
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It's been going on for the last few months where there's been a massive dry ice shortage. I'm guessing it's related to more people ordering stuff online with the pandemic.
LMFAO is this because her has stake in moderna and was hoping to purchase theirs instead.
what a fucking shit leader
what a fucking shit leader
Wait, seriously?
There's a line between incompetence and malice, and he...
...Not like it changes anything
I could have sworn I read that he did, but it may have just been hyperbole.