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(At the European Council on Foreign Relations in May) He barely acknowledged the audience, which included the president of Serbia and the prime minister of Albania, except to say, "I think this is the right place to discuss how to save Europe." But apart from urging the European Union to direct more aid to Africa, which he said would ameliorate the refugee crisis that has led to so much of the recent political upheaval in Europe, his remarks were more descriptive than prescriptive. The European Union, he said, faced an "existential crisis."

Briefly touching on Europe's economic outlook, he said, "We may be heading for another major financial crisis." Partly in response to his warning, the Dow fell nearly 400 points that day. Soros is generally considered the greatest speculator Wall Street has known, and though he stopped managing other people's money years ago, the reaction was a real-time display of his continued ability to move markets. The attention given to that comment also underscored, in a subtle way, an enduring frustration of his life: His financial thoughts still tend to carry more weight than his political reflections.

Yet the political realm is where Soros has made his most audacious wager. After the fall of the Berlin Wall, in 1989, he poured hundreds of millions of dollars into the former Soviet-bloc countries to promote civil society and liberal democracy. It was a one-man Marshall Plan for Eastern Europe, a private initiative without historical precedent. It was also a gamble that a part of the world that had mostly known tyranny would embrace ideas like government accountability and ethnic tolerance. In London in the 1950s, Soros was a student of the expatriated Austrian philosopher Karl Popper, who championed the notion of an "open society," in which individual liberty, pluralism and free inquiry prevailed. Popper's concept became Soros's cause.

It is an embattled cause these days. Under Vladimir Putin, Russia has reverted to autocracy, and Poland and Hungary are moving in the same direction. With the rise of Donald Trump in the United States, where Soros is a major donor to Democratic candidates and progressive groups, and the growing strength of right-wing populist parties in Western Europe, Soros's vision of liberal democracy is under threat in its longtime strongholds. Nationalism and tribalism are resurgent, barriers are being raised and borders reinforced and Soros is confronting the possibility that the goal to which he has devoted most of his wealth and the last chapter of his life will end in failure. Not only that: He also finds himself in the unsettling position of being the designated villain of this anti-globalization backlash, his Judaism and career in finance rendering him a made-to-order phantasm for reactionaries worldwide. "I'm standing for principles whether I win or lose," Soros told me this spring. But, he went on, "unfortunately, I'm losing too much in too many places right now."

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/17/magazine/george-soros-democrat-open-society.html

A good long form overview on Soros the man, and his work and philosophy, if you've ever wondered about the "liberal boogeyman". But also pretty depressing as Soros and the reader come to the conclusion that liberal democracy is fading around the globe.
 

Jessie

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It's kind of sad how Soros was turned into a comic book villain by the right. He really is just a billionaire who wants to use his influence to make society a better place.
 

pink

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Oct 27, 2017
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It's kind of sad how Soros was turned into a comic book villain by the right. He really is just a billionaire who wants to use his influence to make society a better place.

And I never understood all the ridiculous conspiracies that the dumbos who buy into the GOP would be pushing.

What's wrong with people?
 

Veliladon

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It's kind of sad how Soros was turned into a comic book villain by the right. He really is just a billionaire who wants to use his influence to make society a better place.

What kind of claptrap is this? He's a speculator that traded on the human misery of Black Wednesday because he thought he could make a buck. He's done as much evil as he has tried to do good. At best he's chaotic neutral.
 

platocplx

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Yet folks almost hate admitting the Kochs exist

yep they and others are the antithesis of what soros was looking to do.

the book Dark Money: The Hidden History of the Billionaires Behind the Rise of the Radical Right is terrifying to read about.
the Kochs, the Scaifes, the Olins, and the Bradleys , add mercers to the lot and a few others. its disgusting how they get passes and yet they demonized soros.
 

Veggen

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It's kind of sad how Soros was turned into a comic book villain by the right. He really is just a billionaire who wants to use his influence to make society a better place.
I think it's a sad revelation that he's not hated because of the distorted view of him as a comic book villain, but because they actually hate his value system.
 

Veliladon

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This is liberal end justifying the means. The man literally built his fortune on the back of profiting off others' misery using hedge funds. It's only because he's rolling his shamefully gotten gains back into liberal democratic causes that he can show his face in public.

The man may spend the rest of his life atoneing for his sins but it should never be enough.
 

acheron_xl

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Considering how much effort the man has apparently put into westernizing former Soviet territories, I'd be willing to bet that not an insignificant amount of the hatred towards him has been Russian astroturfing.
 

HyGogg

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It fits into the "jews control the world" narrative.
My mother is an Orthodox Jew and right-winger, and she will complain about how anti-semitic it is when someone repeats a Rothschild conspiracy theory, but then will repeat Soros conspiracy theories like they're just fact, with no self-awareness of the anti-semitic underpinnings. It's absolutely maddening to me.
 

IronRinn

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Paris was the first stop for Soros on a monthlong spring trip to Europe. He normally would have visited Budapest, but not this time. Hungary's prime minister, Viktor Orban, a former Soros protégé, was re-elected in April after running a campaign in which he effectively made Soros his opponent. Orban accused Soros, who is an American citizen, of plotting to overwhelm Hungary with Muslim immigrants in order to undermine its Christian heritage. He attacked Soros during campaign rallies, and his government plastered the country with anti-Soros billboards. In the aftermath of the election, the O.S.F. announced that it was closing its Budapest office because of concerns for the safety of its employees. The fate of the Soros-founded Central European University, based in Budapest, was also in doubt.
This blew my mind when I was reading it yesterday. Like, fucking what? How? I don't understand.
 

_Karooo

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This article has definitely changed my perception of him. Interesting. That was a good long read.