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ONINAKI Review Thread
- Thread starter Xavi
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I'm not surprised by the reception, I was really hoping that this game would be the one but ultimately it's still trpg factory. Guess you can't expect too much.
One thing I will say though is that I never felt like this game was trying to be as nostalgia driven as setsuna or lost sphear, that's part of why I was looking forward to it
One thing I will say though is that I never felt like this game was trying to be as nostalgia driven as setsuna or lost sphear, that's part of why I was looking forward to it
It seems they are too focused on chasing the feeling of oldskool RPGS rather than fully making something of their own inspiration. That's how I kind of feel anway. Since they don't have a bigger budget they can't give more expression and life to their character models to make up any other weaknesses in story.
The EiC of DD is an otaku, no doubt about it. He seems to score RPGs with good story, but flawed gameplay, really high. That's cool that he believes a game's limitations can be overcome by its strengths, but it definitely makes it difficult to determine whether or not it'll do the same for me, or you, or whoever.
Since they're covering all bases with regards to the kind of RPGs they're making, can this developer make a tactical RPG next?
In retrospect, I am Setsuna is probably they're best game and not at all a bad game. One problem with I am Setsuna is that it was cursed with being the next "Chrono Trigger" due to its battle system in the same way Octopath Traveler was cursed as being "Final Fantasy VI" due to it's visuals. When people start dropping those legendary names and you play the games they may not be bad games per se, but they're not Chrono Trigger and certainly not Final Fantasy VI.
Like I said that's just one problem, not to say the game was perfect beyond an unfair comparison because it wasn't, but from my demo impressions of Oninaki I'd put Setsuna as TRPGF's highlight.
I played the demo and thought it was a very mediocre if not, inoffensive, action RPG.
The biggest issue for me was that there was nothing remarkable about it: not the plot, not the characters, not the art style, not the gameplay. Just bland and boring all the way.
Is not charming as and old school looking RPG project. Just looks and plays like a your average RPG mobile game.
The biggest issue for me was that there was nothing remarkable about it: not the plot, not the characters, not the art style, not the gameplay. Just bland and boring all the way.
Is not charming as and old school looking RPG project. Just looks and plays like a your average RPG mobile game.
I can see that, but can you really say you highly enjoyed it? It doesn't really have a whole lot of substance or variation to it to be that enticing, wouldn't you say? Imagine the same battle system spread out across 40 hours, only with different spirits providing some different abilities.
It's too bad...my interest in Tokyo RPG Factory games has dwindled so much. I am Setsuna I played (and platinumed) but felt it was a very middling title. I blame myself partially for having high expectations based on the allusions made to the fact that the game was going to be in the same vein as Chrono Trigger.
Lost Sphear I had some interest in, but the reviews really soured my outlook on the title. Also, so many great games have come out the last two years that coupled with its price tag compelled me not to pick it up.
Oninaki I still plan on playing the demo at some point, but again, based on reviews, I have very low expectations. If I find the gameplay mediocre in the demo, I'll probably write off any future games from Tokyo RPG Factory barring exceptional reviews.
Lost Sphear I had some interest in, but the reviews really soured my outlook on the title. Also, so many great games have come out the last two years that coupled with its price tag compelled me not to pick it up.
Oninaki I still plan on playing the demo at some point, but again, based on reviews, I have very low expectations. If I find the gameplay mediocre in the demo, I'll probably write off any future games from Tokyo RPG Factory barring exceptional reviews.
Yeah that's the impression I am getting with them. I keep hoping they will come out swinging with something but..
Haven't tried the demo for this one yet, but Lost Sphear ended up being a lot better than the demo was. I'm not sure why they thought it was a good idea to just throw you into a random part of the game where all the characters already knew each other with no real context.
Seems like another Tokyo RPG Factory game to skip. Given the flood of available/soon-to-be-available games, I'm not bothered that much.
Tokyo RPG Factory is the 1$ McDonald's menu of JRPGs
And to think I was excited when that studio was announced at e3...
And to think I was excited when that studio was announced at e3...
Kind of expected this but had slightly higher hopes than Lost Sphear due to Tokita's involvement. I enjoyed Setsuna enough to keep it but it's certainly on the bottom of my JRPG list for replays alongside Bravely Default. Don't why these attempts at classics always end up falling short of greatness. Octopath in particular could have been amazing with stronger/more consistent narratives
My question is how's the story and characters? These are the most important things in RPGs and it's what I place the most weight on. Are you being compelled to finish the game by the story, or is it the gameplay? If you wrote the review already I'm assuming you no longer have to play it but it sounds like you still are, what's driving you?
A lot of reviewers seem to be dinging the game for having slow combat. In the late game, things definitely pick up a lot more as you develop your skills with each Daemon (aka your weapons). The story is what drove me to keep going throughout. However, as I pointed out in my review the game doesn't have a great third act.
Imported my demo save to PS4 last night when it unlocked. So far, the story does seem compelling, but I am still at the beginning. I do like the skill tree aspect and personally I preferred their turn based systems, but this is okay. I do want to support this studio, and I hope they can keep improving. Combat-wise, this studio is definitely getting better though.
Does anyone know what is the idea behind Tokyo RPG Factory? Like, what are the goals/objectives, why was it created? Is it a place for fresh Square-Enix devs to work on their skills? Is it a side-project of some person/group at SE? Is there some core idea/philosophy of development that they are iterating over with each game?
I keep having this feeling that understanding what they are trying to achieve would help me appreciate their games more.
I keep having this feeling that understanding what they are trying to achieve would help me appreciate their games more.
If I remember correctly the studio was formed to focus on making new JRPGs reminiscent of/inspired by the classic RPGs that Square made in the glory days.
The text on their homepage says: "Countless adventures captivated us when we were kids. Now, it's time for us to return the favor with adventures of our own."
I definitely feel like the studio has potential. They've got some good ideas, but the execution so far hasn't lived up to the promise. I haven't played the retail version of Oninaki yet (only the demo), but I feel like there were definitely things I loved about I am Setsuna and Lost Sphear, but they were still held back by a lot of flaws. I hope they continue to improve and look at the criticisms of their three titles so far and have the chance to make something that lives up to their vision. I'll continue to root for the devs, but after buying their last two games at launch, I think I'm going to hold off on Oninaki until it ends up on sale.
They just don't have a comparable the budget to what the old days had.
I'd definitely like to see them take, like, 2 or 3 years on their next thing and really try to polish it. They pumped out Oninaki in, like, a little over a year.
They were founded to capitalise on the success of Bravely Default, and were meant to make games that were like the JRPG classics of yesteryear and specifically on home consoles(which just meant PS4 at the time).
Interestingly, Oninaki on the Nintendo Switch got a metacritic rating of 77 right now. Jeez can't they just have all platforms altogether.
I don't think we know yet but if I had to guess it's Tomoki Miyoshi who did Setsuna and Lost Sphear.
