Outriders |OT| Hold Me Closer, Technomancer

[Kami]

I'm sorry but this game is a horrible experience.

I'm trying to do the *spoiler* boss fight solo. World Tier 6.

As soon as I start the fight, my frame rate randomly gets capped at 60. Every time. So there's that throwing me off.

Then she takes off 75% of my health in one hit. I try to interrupt her, it never works. You only get a split second to do it, so to use the ability and to still get not get it is extremely frustrating.

The entire time I'm getting micro stutters and inconsistent hit boxes. I don't even know what's hitting me half the time.

I really regret buying this for full price.

 

[oriic]

My best round. Pyromancer ashen build is awesome.

 

[AstralSphere]

New patch. D/l it. Start game. Stuck at "Signed in!", still not fixed. Restart console. Load game. Stuck at "Signed in!" again.

 

[SRTtoZ]

Location? Time zone? Console/PC?

I haven't had server issues since the beginning days of launch. Still no inventory wipe bug *knocks on wooden desk*.

The Pyro is SQUISHY AF so far. I'm guessing that changes a bit once I get Volcanic Rounds. So far I'm enjoying it though regardless because you feel like you're always using a skill and burning shit just feels so good.

 

[ITBEATS]

The Signed In bullshit is reeeeeeallly irritating.

 

[Abylim]

The Signed In bullshit is reeeeeeallly irritating.

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So sick of it

 

[Smokey_Run]

The Signed In bullshit is reeeeeeallly irritating.

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I must've tried for an hour last night with no luck.

 

[Dunlop]

New patch. D/l it. Start game. Stuck at "Signed in!", still not fixed. Restart console. Load game. Stuck at "Signed in!" again.

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You have to power off your console and then unplug it for a free minutes to resolve the problem.

Wish I was kidding

 

[AstralSphere]

Workarounds to get a game to start. On console. In 2021. With a game that has been out for 2 weeks.

You got to love it.

 

[PuppetMinion]

You have to power off your console and then unplug it for a free minutes to resolve the problem.

Wish I was kidding

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For me until yesterday, just closing the game and restarting a couple of times have worked. Yesterday I gave up after 4 restarts or something, played something else.

Insane they still have that bug, the non-skippable intro is the cherry on top. They do realize they are pavlovian training their customers to dislike "People Can Fly" right?

 

[Dunlop]

They do realize they are pavlovian training their customers to dislike "People Can Fly" right?

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While I've put in so many hours to this game, I have no trust for these devs due to the game being released in this state. I will never buy anything day 1 from them. Even Anthem did not wipe your characters

 

[saintjules]

 

[Sonix]

Man, everytime I peek into this thread its either complaints about high-level endgame loot drops/builds or server issues. Not that they are not valid but where do I go to ramble about the fun I have with my lvl 23 trickster blowing everything up? ^^

 

[Dunlop]

Man, everytime I peek into this thread its either complaints about high-level endgame loot drops/builds or server issues. Not that they are not valid but where do I go to ramble about the fun I have with my lvl 23 trickster blowing everything up? ^^

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Same thread, game is super fun but also ranks up there with one of the most buggiest experiences released for a "AAA" game.

 

[Sirhc]

Man, everytime I peek into this thread its either complaints about high-level endgame loot drops/builds or server issues. Not that they are not valid but where do I go to ramble about the fun I have with my lvl 23 trickster blowing everything up? ^^

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Been leveling a Devastator after getting a little bored with Technomancer(it's a good class but needs skill balancing, decay is way strong while others are kinda weak), having a blast flying around the battlefield smashing everything, it's so active compared to Techno.

 

[Sonix]

Same thread, game is super fun but also ranks up there with one of the most buggiest experiences released for a "AAA" game.

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Sorry didn't mean to come off as petty. I just hope the issues get resolved soon (or have been resolved by the patch) and we get to talk more about the game itself :)

 

[panda-zebra]

"Single player is intended to be a bit less intense than multiplayer, and we wanted players to take a different approach to combat," a representative for developer People Can Fly and Square Enix told me in an email. "We like presenting combat arenas as a sort of combat puzzle for players to solve."

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Yeah, sometimes I have to go back to the dash to make sure I'm still playing Outriders and didn't click on The Witness by mistake...

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Outriders Could Really Use A Self-Revive

Outriders is a game about balance, but it’s not always finely balanced. Nowhere is this more apparent than in the game’s revive mechanic, which is seriously biased toward players of the game’s cooperative mode.

kotaku.com

 

[fr0st]

They playing the same game or what. No way they're this clueless

 

[Dunlop]

Sorry didn't mean to come off as petty. I just hope the issues get resolved soon (or have been resolved by the patch) and we get to talk more about the game itself :)

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Not at all, had I paid full price for the game (I have via gamepass) it would have defiantly been returned it as regardless of how fun the core gameplay is there is no excuse for the extent of these bugs with the grand whopper of people losing their entire characters (like myself).

Playing with an alt, just re-started expeditions and the bug du jour is as soon as I try to go to camp solo I have to redo the last boss fight every single time. If I go back in the story point I no longer have the option to queue for expeditions

I've posted it many times but it is clear the devs bit off way more than they could handle with a game of this nature. I hope at some point Square Enix gives them the proper help to deal with the disastrous system used for the backend which will let them focus on the game

 

[Starlatine]

Yeah, sometimes I have to go back to the dash to make sure I'm still playing Outriders and didn't click on The Witness by mistake...

🙄

Outriders Could Really Use A Self-Revive

Outriders is a game about balance, but it’s not always finely balanced. Nowhere is this more apparent than in the game’s revive mechanic, which is seriously biased toward players of the game’s cooperative mode.

kotaku.com

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My favourite puzzles are the kind that when i'm struggling thinking where to place the final pieces someone comes kick the board and i have to do it all over again

 

[The Third Heat]

Yeah, sometimes I have to go back to the dash to make sure I'm still playing Outriders and didn't click on The Witness by mistake...

🙄

Outriders Could Really Use A Self-Revive

Outriders is a game about balance, but it’s not always finely balanced. Nowhere is this more apparent than in the game’s revive mechanic, which is seriously biased toward players of the game’s cooperative mode.

kotaku.com

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Yeah, that quote made no sense to me. Any self-revive would simply be another tool in the toolkit to solve the "puzzle." It's already in co-op and in one of the skill trees. It's not like it would break the game so much that it'd be unplayable. Make it an option for all classes, at least.

 

[eek]

Not sure I would consider entering an area and having every enemy on the map aggro you at once, with 100% accuracy, a "puzzle" but the solution at least is easy to figure out... except they've locked it away as a reward for "solving" the puzzle (repeatedly).

Everytime I hear the devs talk I'm less hopeful about the future state of this game. I sense that we're going to see an emergency stance fix that sends every build back to the stone ages without any fixes for the issues that emergency stance is alleviating.

 

[elenarie]

Quick question, is it possible to finish CT15 / play through all expeditions at least once without some heavy grinding?

So far I have been able to finish 7-8 expeditions and I am sitting at CT7 without ever dying in an expedition.

 

[Arctic Chris]

Self-revive could even be an option in the Class Trees. Take it but lose out on something else.

 

[eek]

Quick question, is it possible to finish CT15 / play through all expeditions at least once without some heavy grinding?

So far I have been able to finish 7-8 expeditions and I am sitting at CT7 without ever dying in an expedition.

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No. You need a ton of DPS to gold ct15. Assuming you have "end game" gear/build to upgrade it to level 50 would require a ton of resources which you can't readily get until you can gold ct14 consistently. You can definitely gold some ct15 without insane grind but all of them? That'll take a bit depending on your class

 

[panda-zebra]

I sense that we're going to see an emergency stance fix that sends every build back to the stone ages without any fixes for the issues that emergency stance is alleviating.

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Going to stand well back and peep through my fingers at that one, it won't be pretty.

Quick question, is it possible to finish CT15 / play through all expeditions at least once without some heavy grinding?

So far I have been able to finish 7-8 expeditions and I am sitting at CT7 without ever dying in an expedition.

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You're at that crossover point there where you're out of the world level stuff and into the expedition tier gear. It needs grinding, for the gear, the mats and the mods to bring it all together an dmore of it each subsequent level. CTs need better clear times at the end, too - silver then gold to advance (but some maps are really generous with timing so not really a problem).

 

[eek]

Going to stand well back and peep through my fingers at that one, it won't be pretty.

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Upcoming patch notes:

• Fix issue where players could redeem multiple Earthborn Renegade items per account
• To prevent losses in crafting menu, interacting with Zahedi crafting menu now saves your game after every interaction
• Fix issue where Golem was being applied all the time when using emergency stance
• Adjust timers for Archways of Enoch gold to 9 minutes 30 seconds and Scorched Lands to 10 minutes
• Reduce damage of T2 bone shrapnel by 20% and increase cooldown from 1s to 4s
• Mods triggered by reloading now occur after reloading is complete

can't wait 😂

 

[Thwomp]

Is anyone else experiencing lag during co-op?

 

[SRTtoZ]

Got my Vaccine today so I get to just chill and play video games on this randomly cold ass day in NY. I think I'm gonna use most of today to level a Pyro and maybe play a little Devastator later. I ran a few CT15s on my Techno but all I'm getting is non upgrades and no Legendaries of use so please if you're reading this PCF, buff the drop rates thanks.

Upcoming patch notes:

• Fix issue where players could redeem multiple Earthborn Renegade items per account
• To prevent losses in crafting menu, interacting with Zahedi crafting menu now saves your game after every interaction
• Fix issue where Golem was being applied all the time when using emergency stance
• Adjust timers for Archways of Enoch gold to 9 minutes 30 seconds and Scorched Lands to 10 minutes
• Reduce damage of T2 bone shrapnel by 20% and increase cooldown from 1s to 4s
• Mods triggered by reloading now occur after reloading is complete

can't wait 😂

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Is this real? If so the sub is going to burn down lol. Can't we have fun with Bone Shrapnel??? I mean it's good but there's T3 shit that's better. Everything is NERF NERF NERF. At least throw a few buffs in there to make people happy. FFS.

Oh wait you trolled me LOL. I was about to lose it.

 

[Omegabalmung]

Is anyone else experiencing lag during co-op?

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Yup its been like that since last night for me.

 

[MadMike]

Is it just me, or is Eye of the Storm actually impossible to Gold solo? Even if you could one-shot every single enemy, including the boss, you're still waiting ~6 minutes for the pillars.

 

[Deleted member 11976]

I think the main reason they don't have self-revive for solo play is enemy AI states. They have no other targets and when you get up they're probably right on top of you again. Should you get your skills back right away when you res so you can fight back out of unwinnable situations? How long until players start making builds that might be able to exploit something like that?

It's better to restart the current encounter entirely when solo, in my opinion.

 

[shawnoftheshred]

Is it just me, or is Eye of the Storm actually impossible to Gold solo? Even if you could one-shot every single enemy, including the boss, you're still waiting ~6 minutes for the pillars.

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Yeah, as it stands silver is possible solo, but not gold.

 

[LhommeCornichon]

So, I kept away from this thread while going through the main game solo and had a blast (well I lowered WT difficulty for the last boss). Now I wanna go through the expedition but I am unable to join a random team via Matchmaking. This is going since yesterday. And I tried leveling up solo with a great gun sending a Gravity ball after every reload but sometimes the perk disappear and I have to relaunch the game, yikes. I guess I have to put down the game for now ?

Edit: to kill time I tried to complete my journal sections but everything related to the prologue (I skipped it after beating it in the demo) is now unlockable...

 

[NowhereFaded]

There's a trick you can use to turn one of the pre-order bonus/dlc weapons into one of the best endgame Tactical AR's.

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Would you mind posting a vid on how to do that tick? Is it only viable for end game or should I do anytime? Current world tier 6 lol. Thank you (:

 

[Rellyrell28]

Just got a blue LMG with a 150 clip size that extends to 240 with a class skill. As a Technomancer this pleases me.

 

[Niceguydan8]

I'm sorry but this game is a horrible experience.

I'm trying to do the *spoiler* boss fight solo. World Tier 6.

As soon as I start the fight, my frame rate randomly gets capped at 60. Every time. So there's that throwing me off.

Then she takes off 75% of my health in one hit. I try to interrupt her, it never works. You only get a split second to do it, so to use the ability and to still get not get it is extremely frustrating.

The entire time I'm getting micro stutters and inconsistent hit boxes. I don't even know what's hitting me half the time.

I really regret buying this for full price.

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The boss will be spongey for sure but survivability is something you can solve for via mods/skill tree.

If it's too hard, turn the world tier down. It's mostly a build/gear issue I would guess.

 

[SRTtoZ]

Would you mind posting a vid on how to do that tick? Is it only viable for end game or should I do anytime? Current world tier 6 lol. Thank you (:

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It's viable anytime but mostly end game since the point of the trick it to get a high end weapon when it reaches level 50. The only thing is you need Hell's Rangers DLC Pre-order pack or you can buy it for $6-7 bucks on whatever storefront you play on (PSN, XBL, Steam etc).

Just got a blue LMG with a 150 clip size that extends to 240 with a class skill. As a Technomancer this pleases me.

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That plus any of the ammo regeneration mods and you don't even need the 2nd magazine mod for a 100-150 round clip + 50% bonus ammunition.

 

[nikos]

Getting a ton of stuttering on PC since yesterday. I believe it has to do with NVIDIA's latest driver (466.11) as a friend is having the same issue after updating. We were both having a smooth experience prior. Tried about every suggestion there is. Anyone else stuttering after updating to these drivers?

 

[Radokat]

Still having a lot of fun, but why the hell is Scrap Grenade still broken :( ?
Wanted to try it in a build...

 

[Magneto]

Regarding the Kotaku article :

That reddit comment nailed it. I'm really starting to wonder if devs have actually played their own game on higher tiers.

 

[johnro]

Getting a ton of stuttering on PC since yesterday. I believe it has to do with NVIDIA's latest driver (466.11) as a friend is having the same issue after updating. We were both having a smooth experience prior. Tried about every suggestion there is. Anyone else stuttering after updating to these drivers?

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I also installed 466.11 and had stuttering on PC . Try disabling steam overlay , don't know why but that fixed the stuttering for me and for other people on the steam forums.

But man after 2 weeks and 2 patches i still can't believe they didn't fix that random 60 fps lock during fights and after cutscenes. I never seen something so annoying in any game until now.

 

[Stoney Mason]

What mods do people use on pump and auto shotty's at the expedition tiers?

 

[Vic_Viper]

The wait while Logging In is still just insane on PS5. Just waited for over half an hour and still didnt get logged in. Was able to finish my homework while waiting lol.

I assume im in some sort of server que, like you have in some MMOs. But man, it feels like its only gotten longer, not shorter.

 

[shawnoftheshred]

So, just did a little calculation of the Tier 3 mods I have + the Legendaries in my stash. Since starting this game up on New Zealand launch day, heh, I've nabbed 83 (!) legendaries to date. 34 are in my mod library (either duplicates or acquired at lower levels), which I think seems pretty good for variety of drops so far. This is all on Pyro, and I only re-ran the guaranteed Legendary Hunt mission twice, so most are coming from natural drops in the higher Challenge Tiers.

For reference, I played the campaign, ending on World Tier 13 (near 14), then did the Hunt quest to get to 15. Then I took my not-very-well-built Pyromancer to Challenge Tier 11 solo, switched its focus at that point to get it to 15, with occasional LFGs on the Discord. At this point, I'm pretty much exclusively playing LFGs with randoms on CT15 and have played each expedition to Silver or Gold. Most Gold runs on CT15 are netting me two Legendaries, and Silvers 1-2, with very rare occurrences of none.

All that to say, I know this sucks in Destiny too, having to use a 3rd party app to get the most out of the game, but my LFG experiences have been great lately.

 

[Cloud-Strife]

The wait while Logging In is still just insane on PS5. Just waited for over half an hour and still didnt get logged in. Was able to finish my homework while waiting lol.

I assume im in some sort of server que, like you have in some MMOs. But man, it feels like its only gotten longer, not shorter.

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Usually people on console restarts the console and the game.. after that they log in faster.

 

[StrangeInStereo]

Upcoming patch notes:

• Fix issue where players could redeem multiple Earthborn Renegade items per account
• To prevent losses in crafting menu, interacting with Zahedi crafting menu now saves your game after every interaction
• Fix issue where Golem was being applied all the time when using emergency stance
• Adjust timers for Archways of Enoch gold to 9 minutes 30 seconds and Scorched Lands to 10 minutes
• Reduce damage of T2 bone shrapnel by 20% and increase cooldown from 1s to 4s
• Mods triggered by reloading now occur after reloading is complete

can't wait 😂

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I know all of these would be bad but I low-key hate how good the mods triggered by reloading are. Maybe because I'm afraid I'll always mess up the reload cancel lmao. It's probably what I need for my build though, just got to CT13 and getting gold is not as easy as it used to be.

 

[SilkySm00th]

Upcoming patch notes:

• Fix issue where players could redeem multiple Earthborn Renegade items per account
• To prevent losses in crafting menu, interacting with Zahedi crafting menu now saves your game after every interaction
• Fix issue where Golem was being applied all the time when using emergency stance
• Adjust timers for Archways of Enoch gold to 9 minutes 30 seconds and Scorched Lands to 10 minutes
• Reduce damage of T2 bone shrapnel by 20% and increase cooldown from 1s to 4s
• Mods triggered by reloading now occur after reloading is complete

can't wait 😂

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LoL I rekt.

You got me.

 

[nikos]

I also installed 466.11 and had stuttering on PC . Try disabling steam overlay , don't know why but that fixed the stuttering for me and for other people on the steam forums.

But man after 2 weeks and 2 patches i still can't believe they didn't fix that random 60 fps lock during fights and after cutscenes. I never seen something so annoying in any game until now.

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I'll try that, thank you! That random 60 FPS lock is terrible. I press Escape twice to fix it, but it's such a nuisance.

 

[JJD]

Upcoming patch notes:

• Fix issue where players could redeem multiple Earthborn Renegade items per account
• To prevent losses in crafting menu, interacting with Zahedi crafting menu now saves your game after every interaction
• Fix issue where Golem was being applied all the time when using emergency stance
• Adjust timers for Archways of Enoch gold to 9 minutes 30 seconds and Scorched Lands to 10 minutes
• Reduce damage of T2 bone shrapnel by 20% and increase cooldown from 1s to 4s
• Mods triggered by reloading now occur after reloading is complete

can't wait 😂

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I'm ok with this. They will remove the glitch but won't nerf the gun.

If anyone wants they can do it before the patch. I have one and I'm far from finishing the game.

Edit: just seen the bone shrapnel nerf...