So you expect a legacy version (not even based on the full version, the version it is a legacy for was already incomplete ) to do better than actual new versions of the game?
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FIFA 21 - Legacy Edition is a different sku and unfortunately sold a lot more than it deserved to, which was 0 units.
It was actually supposed to be a joke about how EA is treating their sports games on Switch, but the comments in the thread show that a number of Nintendo fans in our sales community still have an inferiority complex. And considering the number of Switch exclusives charting in many different countries, I would say it's time to try to get rid of it.
I looked, and you're right. For some reason, I thought it wasn't a separate SKU in the Swiss chart, but it is.
The responses weren't even that bad, even if some didn't perceive the initial post as a joke. Weird to bring up a inferiority complex because some replied to the post.
It happens to the best of us in this thread, between all the posts and users it's not always as easy to differentiate between jokes and legit posts. The claim that Fifa NSW could perform better (than at least the XSX) in a country that has a very high Switch software rate right now isn't that crazy since it happened from time to time in countries like France and Spain.
So yeah that was all rather harmless, no need to overthink it.
Speaking of next week charts ...it's gonna be interesting to see how MHR gonna hold up.2 weeks until the next content update.
It happens to the best of us in this thread, between all the posts and users it's not always as easy to differentiate between jokes and legit posts. The claim that Fifa NSW could perform better (than at least the XSX) in a country that has a very high Switch software rate right now isn't that crazy since it happened from time to time in countries like France and Spain.
So yeah that was all rather harmless, no need to overthink it.
Speaking of next week charts ...it's gonna be interesting to see how MHR gonna hold up.2 weeks until the next content update.
France Top 5 by Revenue for Week 14, 2021
No UK charts yet ?
Uff...i hope MHR can stick along for a bit longer but its gonna be difficult.
Edit: Though it probably would have an easier time sticking around if regular and LE would be counted as one item.
Uff...i hope MHR can stick along for a bit longer but its gonna be difficult.
Edit: Though it probably would have an easier time sticking around if regular and LE would be counted as one item.
5 million, last we heard
Monster Hunter Rise Surpasses 5 Million Units Globally!
Capcom Co., Ltd. (Capcom) today announced that Monster Hunter Rise for Nintendo Switch has shipped 5 million units worldwide.
www.capcom.co.jp
Retail report for Week 13, 2021 in Spain
Los juegos de Switch monopolizan la lista de los más vendidos en España
La consola de Nintendo vive un excelente estado de salud en nuestro país con 8 de los 10 juegos más vendidos en la semana del 29 de marzo al 4 de abril.
vandal.elespanol.com
Spain - Week 13, 2021
Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury recovers the first place after being dethroned by Monster Hunter Rise the previous week. Mario title's impressive run continues with no signs of slowing down at all, I am totally speechless at how this game is performing in Spain. Meanwhile, Monster Hunter Rises dropped to 2nd place with sales declining by 78%. Outriders was the only new release and here nobody bought it, it had to content itself with less than 1.000 units among all platforms retail.
March, 2021 top 3 is the following:
1. Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury (NSW) - 29.400
2. Monster Hunter Rise (NSW) - 23.250
3. Grand Theft Auto V (PS4) - 20.000
Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury last 4 weeks:
[Week 10, 2021] Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury (NSW) - 5.850
[Week 11, 2021] Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury (NSW) - 5.550
[Week 12, 2021] Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury (NSW) - 5.100
[Week 13, 2021] Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury (NSW) - 5.400
Case by case. Rise has a confirmed higher digital ratio than World upfront for example (40% vs 30%).
If you're talking IR figures then Sony's "full game" figures include all software while Nintendo's exclude digital only titles. Apples vs Oranges.
Los juegos de Switch monopolizan la lista de los más vendidos en España
La consola de Nintendo vive un excelente estado de salud en nuestro país con 8 de los 10 juegos más vendidos en la semana del 29 de marzo al 4 de abril.
Spain - Week 13, 2021
Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury recovers the first place after being dethroned by Monster Hunter Rise the previous week. Mario title's impressive run continues with no signs of slowing down at all, I am totally speechless at how this game is performing in Spain. Meanwhile, Monster Hunter Rises dropped to 2nd place with sales declining by 78%. Outriders was the only new release and here nobody bought it, it had to content itself with less than 1.000 units among all platforms retail.
March, 2021 top 3 is the following:
1. Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury (NSW) - 29.400
2. Monster Hunter Rise (NSW) - 23.250
3. Grand Theft Auto V (PS4) - 20.000
Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury last 4 weeks:
[Week 10, 2021] Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury (NSW) - 5.850
[Week 11, 2021] Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury (NSW) - 5.550
[Week 12, 2021] Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury (NSW) - 5.100
[Week 13, 2021] Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury (NSW) - 5.400
Hardware
Switch - 4900
PS5 - 2800 ( 1800 disk / 1000 digital)
PS4 - 2100
Xbox - 650 (635 S / 15 X)
Xbox One - 135
I continue to being amazed by the numbers that the PS4 pulls weekly.
LMAO this is a bit pathetic honestly.
I don't see any weird/defensive responses, besides yours, people were pointing out the obvious since it seemed you didn't know it's
• a different sku
• a crappy legacy version
Also, that was a joke? Man you really need to work on your humor
Sweet 15 😂 The hell, X restocks must be nonexistent
PS4 is still a beast over here, and it ain't even that cheap.
Australia & New Zealand Top 10 for Week 14, 2021
(Week 13, 2021 data on page 3, post #102)
Australia:
Week 14, 2021 - All Formats (Units)
01. Grand Theft Auto V
02. Outriders
03. Monster Hunter Rise
04. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
05. FIFA 21
06. Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury
07. NBA 2K21
08. Ghost of Tsushima
09. Minecraft: Nintendo Switch Edition
10. Animal Crossing: New Horizons
New Zealand:
Week 14, 2021 - All Formats (Units)
01. Grand Theft Auto V
02. Outriders
03. Crash Bandicoot: N.Sane Trilogy
04. FIFA 21
05. It Takes Two
06. Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War
07. NBA 2K21
08. Ghost of Tsushima
09. Tekken 7
10. EA Sports UFC 4
Week 10, 2021
Week 11, 2021
Week 12, 2021
Week 13, 2021
Australia:
Week 14, 2021 - All Formats (Units)
01. Grand Theft Auto V
02. Outriders
03. Monster Hunter Rise
04. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
05. FIFA 21
06. Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury
07. NBA 2K21
08. Ghost of Tsushima
09. Minecraft: Nintendo Switch Edition
10. Animal Crossing: New Horizons
New Zealand:
Week 14, 2021 - All Formats (Units)
01. Grand Theft Auto V
02. Outriders
03. Crash Bandicoot: N.Sane Trilogy
04. FIFA 21
05. It Takes Two
06. Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War
07. NBA 2K21
08. Ghost of Tsushima
09. Tekken 7
10. EA Sports UFC 4
Week 10, 2021
Week 11, 2021
Week 12, 2021
Week 13, 2021
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Series S is widely available in Spain just like here in Portugal i see. It hasn't been sold out since January or February in here actually.
Also interesting to see that they have been producing lots of Digital PS5.
Sounds like things are a lot more balanced when compared to release back in November.
Total software numbers might end up being closer though as digital only titles tend to sell significantly more on Switch, often several times over versus other consoles in the cases we hear about. The Switch digital only ratio being 30%+ of packaged+digital wouldn't really be a surprise if we look at PlayStation's rough 10% to extrapolate out from. Switch also has more digital only releases than PS4+5 in total, not aligned but actual current total, while it has far fewer total packaged releases (both aligned and total).
Sony including bundled only software (like their Playroom series) also skews things a bit. Nintendo does include bundled software in their numbers too but only when it's also sold separately outside hardware (like Wii Sports or Nintendo Land). Otherwise 3DS software would jump rather significantly from it's 3 bundled only titles (AR-Games, Streetpass Mii Plaza, Face Raiders).
That might be true but when talking about charts in these threads it doesn't matter. By all accounts for games with retail release PS still should have considerably higher digital split (and Xbox even higher although gamepass nowadays kinda makes sw sales hard to read on Xbox). Otherwise you don't get these kind of retail charts that are dominated by Switch games and yet global sw shipments show pretty different story (far more competitive). Depending how many Digital only PS5s Sony continues to ship the gap should be even growing.
The top of the charts is only a slice though, it doesn't give you a good picture on overall packaged sales. I mean, again Switch has far fewer packaged releases overall, if you're trying to extrapolate from overall software to arrive at a digital ratio it's still not a 1:1 here due to disparity in catalog and new releases. Switch can lead a top 10 or 20 and still sell less packaged games overall (and likely does). All you can really tell from these charts are Nintendo's own games are incredibly popular and have pretty unheard of staying power with only a real handful of comparable games from other pubs (FIFA, GTA, COD, Minecraft, Spidey, etc).
I mean, I'd guess Switch likely still has a higher packaged ratio still yes (and part of that is probably due to how packaged games run directly on the system without any installation and the comparably limited default storage options for digital) but I'm not sure today post-Covid if the ratio is that far behind other systems when we hear about even huge titles like Animal Crossing or Monster Hunter doing around half their sales on eShop. And especially not when digital only games are also dominating competitively versus other consoles, Switch may even lead in overall digital sales due to that.
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Didn't Switch start getting more retail releases than other systems in 2019 at least in US? I remember Mat Piscatella tweeting about it.
Maybe with boutique publishers but I'd still doubt it with major distributors. Switch also has far fewer catalog rereleases (still no Selects line?!) so only looking at new titles isn't really representative of the full retail landscape. And many packaged Switch releases are often for previously digital only titles, which would still skew awkwardly if we're trying to figure out a rough digital ratio by looking at Nintendo's IR shipments. A retail release like Sonic Mania Plus or Snipperclips Plus is likely 100% packaged for example in Nintendo's figures because the earlier digital releases are unadjusted/uncounted and it's unclear if going forward the digital counts transition to packaged either. Actually this would be a good question for clarification in the investor meetings, plus maybe asking why they don't just give full software numbers now.
I mean obviously yes there are other factors like you said (switch sw being top heavy when it comes to titles) and also overall sw behaves differently and games are not as frontloaded as on PS/xbox. I wonder though when will Nintendo start to share sw sales for digital only sw too. It makes no sense to me that is not shared as they are legit games.
Italy rankings for Week 14, 2021
I feel like it has to happen eventually, especially after this past year drove their packaged digital ratios so much further. Maybe they'll shift accounting with the new Switch model release but I sort of hope they go back then and adjust older software figures too.
I mean if they start to share digital only sw shipments too it only makes sense that they would also adjust their older figures. Sony did this too.
From big European markets it seems Italy is the only one that currently could be considered Sonyland. I mean just look at the above weekly chart that was just posted heh.
I believe is the only country that shares physical + digital.
If it happens I'm sure they will for Switch, my concern would be more the older systems: Wii, DS, 3DS and Wii U.
Switch don't have GTA, CoD and sports game(Don't talk about fake FIFA).So, it is not surprising that total sales figures are less than ps4-5
Edit: Although we say that 3rd party support has increased, it is not surprising that the sales of a lot of 3rd party games are lower because they are released on Switch late.
Edit: Although we say that 3rd party support has increased, it is not surprising that the sales of a lot of 3rd party games are lower because they are released on Switch late.
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Since digital was mostly somewhere between low and non-existent on older Nintendo systems, I don't think it would matter in most cases if they provide digital numbers for those...
I don't think they're so non-existant. Even in Wii's first fiscal year (5 months) we had 28.8m packaged games shipped, 5.8m consoles shipped and 3.3m digital games (Virtual Console) sold. If that ratio maintained we'd be looking at over 100m digital sales on Wii alone, and that was a decade ago.
Oh. Then those charts make more sense.
Weren't Virtual Console games basically games of older nintendo consoles sold on Wii? does it even make sense to count those as Wii sw sales. it would be like if Sony counted PS1 games sold in PSN during PS3 era to PS3 (or PSP) sw sales.
Do you think that, with only physical games counted, the italian chart would look like the german one?
I don't think so. It's just Playstation in Italy is a cultural phenomenon. You don't say: "I play videogames" here, you say: "I play the Playstation".
There's only so much Nintendo can do in Italy.
Is that much different from Sony counting Arcade Archives now (which they do) for PS4?
VC were platform specific releases, they should count. They also weren't the only digital games on Wii but Wiiware didn't arrive until 2008. And honestly I'd love if Sony did the due diligence of adding full digital sales to PSP, PS3 and Vita too (and gave us actual Vita hw/sw totals while at it). PSN Classics / Game Archives might need their own category though since they weren't device specific, or maybe just added to the software figures tor system first bought/installed on. Same for PS mobile games.
Is Italy considered a big European market ? From what i remember they are quite a bit away from UK, Germany, France and even Spain.
I guess it depends on the perspective but to me it's bit tricky if it really is just the original code being emulated on new machine. I mean Sony does now combine PS4 and PS5 sw but it's like if someone bought PS4 game on PS5 and suddenly that would count as PS5 sw sale and not PS4 sw sale. I mean I also would absolutely love if Sony shared more data of their sw sales.
Last time we got annual data (2019) more consoles and games were sold in Italy than in Spain (which makes sense as Italy has higher population).
I meant the overall market revenue but either way thats really impressive considering the economic struggles in italy...didnt expect them the market to be bigger than the Spain one unless thiy year was an outlier.
Again though, Sony right now is counting emulated releases in their software numbers. So why shouldn't Nintendo?
From quick look economically Italy and Spain seem to be in rather same boat. Italy has actually slightly higher per capita median income than Spain.
Well I don't necessarily agree with that either as to me it's slippery slope situation (especially if there is no retail release) but that is obviously just me. To me game has to be port or remaster to be counted on that platform but if it is just original code being emulated it should be counted to sw sales of that platform (with maybe asterisk)
Italy was behind Spain in 2019 (console market) and in 2020 I think the gap got even wider.
For more reliable data it is best to use the yearly reports from national video game associations like AEVI for Spain or IIDEA for Italy.
http://www.aevi.org.es/documentacion/el-anuario-del-videojuego/
No, what i think is this charts whould look a lot more like the NPD charts if digital was inclued.
digital just for PlayStation or digital for Nintendo first party games too?