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I'd say Pokemon is the biggest gaming franchise of all time, maybe Tetris too
PAL Charts - Week 30, 2018
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I'd say Pokemon is the biggest gaming franchise of all time, maybe Tetris too
Individual Formats: Switch doing quite well.
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2 MARIO KART 8 DELUXE NS NINTENDO NINTENDO
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3 CRASH BANDICOOT N.SANE TRILOGY XB ONE ACTIVISION ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
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12 CAPTAIN TOAD: TREASURE TRACKER NS NINTENDO NINTENDO
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13 LEGO THE INCREDIBLES XB ONE WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE
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14 THE LEGEND OF ZELDA: BREATH OF THE WILD NS NINTENDO NINTENDO
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15 CALL OF DUTY: WWII PS4 ACTIVISION ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
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25 DETROIT: BECOME HUMAN PS4 SONY COMPUTER ENT. SONY COMPUTER ENT.
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Minecraft? GTA?
Pokémon is definitely up there but I dunno if I'd say the biggest franchise.
You guys really should clarify whether you are talking about the current popularity or historical popularity. Pokémon has sold more than FIFA, GTA and COD have, but in the present it sells fewer units than those franchises
Eh unless we're excluding smart phone games pokemons certainly bigger than some of those.
Both CoD and FIFA do 20 million on a yearly basis and that's for close to a decade. Neither Pokémon nor MK are going to touch these numbers even if you include the last 25 years.
https://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110032
Hot damn, God of War no.1 in individual charts
Hot damn, God of War no.1 in individual charts
Mario Kart not a chance. But Pokemon generally sells about 15m units per entry and with all the side entries and such it's still ahead of CoD and Fifa as far as I'm aware.
as a franchise I mean more than just games so yeah pokemon is easily the biggest
Problem with including something like mobile revenue (especially as Pokemon Go is F2P) is that then we should also include money made by GTA Online, FIFA Ultimate Team or COD Multiplayer.
Of course you should include those that's point. In terms of total revenue.
In that case star wars is definitely bigger than Pokémon multiple times over.
I know that there were still shortages in week 2, even with them they had still enough to sell for the second spot in the charts. Meanwhile in other territories OT got kicked out of the Top 10 because of shortages.
Its all relative since France is a Switch stronghold - but if sold out everywhere results in a still high chart position, thats positive.
Depends on what you are measuring. Going by money earned nothing types Pokemon.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_highest-grossing_media_franchises
lol was just about to say
I see people cant accept the fact Nintendo is simply at the top
Individual Formats: Switch doing quite well.
41 GOD OF WAR
OF WAR PS4 SONY COMPUTER ENT. SONY COMPUTER ENT.
52 MARIO KART 8 DELUXE NS NINTENDO NINTENDO
63 CRASH BANDICOOT N.SANE TRILOGY XB ONE ACTIVISION ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
134 THE CREW 2 PS4 UBISOFT UBISOFT
195 THE CREW 2 XB ONE UBISOFT UBISOFT
86 MARIO TENNIS ACES NS NINTENDO NINTENDO
97 LEGO THE INCREDIBLES PS4 WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE
108 CRASH BANDICOOT N.SANE TRILOGY NS ACTIVISION ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
119 SUPER MARIO ODYSSEY NS NINTENDO NINTENDO
2410 PLAYERUNKNOWN'S BATTLEGROUNDS XB ONE MICROSOFT MICROSOFT
-11 NO MAN'S SKY XB ONE 505 GAMES 505 GAMES
1412 CAPTAIN TOAD: TREASURE TRACKER NS NINTENDO NINTENDO
1513 LEGO THE INCREDIBLES XB ONE WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE
1814 THE LEGEND OF ZELDA: BREATH OF THE WILD NS NINTENDO NINTENDO
2115 CALL OF DUTY: WWII PS4 ACTIVISION ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
2616 MINECRAFT NS NINTENDO NINTENDO
3117 GRAND THEFT AUTO V PS4 ROCKSTAR TAKE 2
2018 LEGO THE INCREDIBLES NS WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE
3219 THE ELDER SCROLLS ONLINE PS4 BETHESDA SOFTWORKS BETHESDA SOFTWORKS
2520 JURASSIC WORLD: EVOLUTION PS4 SOLD OUT SALES & MARKETING SOLD OUT SALES & MARKETING
2821 CALL OF DUTY: WWII XB ONE ACTIVISION ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
1722 FIFA 18 PS4 EA SPORTS ELECTRONIC ARTS
1223 OCTOPATH TRAVELER NS NINTENDO NINTENDO
-24 GO VACATION NS NINTENDO NINTENDO
3525 DETROIT: BECOME HUMAN PS4 SONY COMPUTER ENT. SONY COMPUTER ENT.
2726 THE LAST OF US: REMASTERED PS4 PLAYSTATION HITS SONY COMPUTER ENT.
3027 SPLATOON 2 NS NINTENDO NINTENDO
-28 TRAIN SIM WORLD PS4 MAXIMUM GAMES MAXIMUM GAMES
3729 CRASH BANDICOOT N.SANE TRILOGY PS4 ACTIVISION ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
3930 GRAND THEFT AUTO V XB ONE ROCKSTAR TAKE 2
1631 SONIC MANIA PLUS PS4 SEGA SEGA
132 SEA OF THIEVES XB ONE MICROSOFT MICROSOFT
3333 JURASSIC WORLD: EVOLUTION XB ONE SOLD OUT SALES & MARKETING SOLD OUT SALES & MARKETING
734 SONIC MANIA PLUS NS SEGA SEGA
2335 FAR CRY 5 PS4 UBISOFT UBISOFT
-36 DONKEY KONG COUNTRY: TROPICAL FREEZE NS NINTENDO NINTENDO
-37 THE PERSISTENCE PS4 SONY COMPUTER ENT. SONY COMPUTER ENT.
238 MINECRAFT: XBOX EDITION XB ONE MICROSOFT MICROSOFT
-39 WARIOWARE GOLD 3DS NINTENDO NINTENDO
-40 MARIO KART 7 3DS NINTENDO NINTENDO
Why is Mario Kart so high? Is it because Switch hardware sales were higher (eg people buying for fornite, which doesnt show on this chart)?
Pokémon is clearly the most valuable IP in gaming, as Gabe Newell also said earlier this year.
You have to remember that Pokémon is:
- the mainline series,
- the card game
- Pokémon Go
- Anime
- merchandise
And these are all incredibly successful, while yes Minecraft and GTA V are huge but there is not much else besides the game itself, especially GTA.
Pokémon: 59 billion dollars
Star Wars: 42 billion dollars
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_highest-grossing_media_franchises
Wow, Sea of Thieves scuttled, God of War leg presses up. I'mma start doing the Kratos Workout:
Good to see Octopath holding on despite stock issues.
Good to see Octopath holding on despite stock issues.
Wouldn't The Pokémon Company be at the top? Sure, Nintendo is part of that but so are Game Freak and Creatures.
I mean that's what happens when star wars has took huge gaps of releasing nothing for like 25 years in total. All that really proves is Pokémon has been milked more.
Star wars Vs Pokémon at any point in time where both have been "active" and it's not even close which is the biggest franchise. Like right now, the time period that actually matters, Pokémon doesn't even come close to star wars.
And as for the "people can't accept Nintendo is top of something" comments.. I don't even like star wars at all and much prefer Pokémon
Those comments definitely are nonsense, and clear console war bs.
However, I would like to see some backing for your claim that at any point in time where both were active SW would be significantly bigger.
And it has already sold like 8M copies on Wii U.
Truly Nintendo's biggest IP right now.
God of War is so good people were waiting for the price to go up before they bought it.
Is there any word on the 'New Game+' mode? just got a 4K TV and want to wait for this mode before I play it again.
Price actually went up and the promotion ended and it have been rising for a few weeks now, it just speaks for the quality of the game and there being a lot of interest.
Well then I would say if we solely count gaming related revenue FIFA comes on the top. Sells around 20 million every year and Ultimate Team prints money that should offset Pokemon Go revenue (We had estimate of 800 million yearly revenue for Ultimate Team and that was for 2016). With Pokemon there is too big yearly difference depending on when the mainline game releases. Last FY Nintendo shipped under 10 million Pokemon games when year before that almost 20 million. For reference GTA V shipped about 15 million last year and both COD and FIFA should be over 20 million.
Not saying pokemon isn't number one or anything but are we sure of that Wikipedia lists accuracy? Like it suggests call of duty doesn't have any/hasn't made money from merch - same goes for Harry Potter with games. Unless I'm missing something I don't think we can out too much stock in it - there are probably errors and omissions throughout.
Yeah I'm gonna need receipts on that.
My wife has several Pokemon stuffed toys and items, has bought me a whole mess of Pokemon Merch, can name all the popular characters but has zero interest in the Pokemon games. I asked if she had seen Star Wars when we first started dating, and she said " On that's the thing where the girl has buns on her ears and falls in love with Hayden Christiansen, then he's somebody's dad".
Pokemon is huge even with people that don't consume the source material, because the characters are so cute and likeable. Nobody who doesn't like Star Wars is buying a Han Solo figurine or other merch.
Seeing GoW back at no.1 is incredible (though unofficially it was no.1 last week too but kept off it due to one week only bundled software :p).
Nice to see Detroit rising again too. Both full price titles practically.
Of course slow time of year and for the next few weeks.
Nice to see Detroit rising again too. Both full price titles practically.
Of course slow time of year and for the next few weeks.
Didn't Pokemon and Phantom Menace both come out in the late 90s? Stars Wars hasn't been "inactive" since the prequels released.
That's very impressive, and well deserved.
My GOTY so far.
At which price will you finally bite? :P
Yeah it was. But it got price cut by most retailers well before Days of Play. Even now it is cheaper than Detroit (36-38 pounds for GoW vs. 40-42 for Detroit), which saw no real sustained cuts yet. Actually pretty unusual for UK. I guess retailers are able to clear their stock fast enough to see no need
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Yeah it's weird Detroit is still not cut in price .I m waiting for a 30 % off discount .
I think if Detroit sales fell off a cliff after launch, we'd have seen it cut in price by now. As it continued to sell well only up until the last couple of weeks, there's been no need to price drop. But I think that time has come for some movement to help over the slower period before it gets forgotten about in the late summer avalanche.
Actually looked into this. Doesn't exactly paint a concrete picture but pretty interesting either way
http://uk.businessinsider.com/here-are-the-best-selling-toys-of-2017-2017-10?r=US&IR=T/#1-pokemon-10
https://www.forbes.com/sites/luketh...ent-star-wars-toys-selling-as-well-this-year/
Pokémon is listed as #1 here for 2017 but star wars and star wars Lego is separate at #10 and #3 while Pokémon is all under the same branch. The second link also says star wars (presumably excluding Lego star wars again) was the #1 toy in 2016 and 2015. I don't think it's much of a stretch to assume if you were to add those two together star wars will be very close to Pokémon if not surpassing given how close they are in the first place in 2017 again. But since it doesn't give any figures it's kinda hard to tell for sure. Overall I feel like they're so close enough it may aswell be a tie with maybe a slight edge to star wars (it did surprise me Pokémon toys were so popular still though)
Movies isn't even a competition we know star wars dominates there lol
Video games seem roughly about the same per game wise but Pokémon release more games and Pokémon go is a monster. Don't think many would disagree that Pokémon is the winner when it comes to gaming.
I guess it just depends if you put more weight into movies or games as to which is the biggest franchise. Personally still siding with star wars given how easily they break a billion with movies whereas games breaking a billion is a pretty big story, and it's even harder for Pokémon since most of their games have been $40. The gap isn't as big as I originally thought though.. that's what I get for underestimating Pokémon toys :P
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Pretty respectable performances all-around.
EDIT: Thought it was specifically the Switch version that opened at #3/#4 in Aus/NZ/Switzerland, but it's not really specified for those charts. My mistake.
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I'm waiting for it to be 10$ like every other QD game I bought :p
those are multiplatform games and they sell 20m every year basically at the same people. and by the way, Mario Kart Wii has sold 38 million units.