Digital isn't coming close to making up for that Fallout 4 drop, which almost definitely got a solid digital attach too.
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PAL Charts - Week 46, 2018
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Yeah, when I posted my comment, I only saw the placement, didn't see the numbers. With that context, of course, they are really bad.
How do these UK sales correlate to what you have seen in the US?
I'm not saying that the game would go from a bomb to a success with digital sales, because they can't be a miracle. I'm just saying that digital-less charts for publishers that sell a lot of digital copies in a market that buy a lot of digital copies are a tad meaningless. I still believe that the game is overall a big disappointment, but I also don't think it sold less than a fifth of what Fallout 4 sold.
obviously no one pretended that
Even if digital was 50% (which is the max for pretty much any game) its still an absolutely dreadful launch.
The number of people believing in digital adoption taking a huge unexpected leap is inversely proportional to a games performance in the market.
Yeah
Like let's say 76 is 50% digital
That's still a very poor number for the franchise
Of course what Carol said is true, it's been true since forever, because unfortunately every game released is competing for sales and awareness with other quality or appealing titles, some new, some old, thus it's not in its own vacuum.
Hitman 2 might be a good game, but there are countless other great games it's competing with. The truth is that it simply wasn't as appealing to consumers as other titles, but that doesn't mean consumers don't want or don't value quality.
And all I said was, at best, digital sales have likely only put the game at par with 3 and/or NV. A 50% digital ratio, which is highly unlikely giving the £60 price tag, would still only put the game at 170,000 or 35% of FO4's week one sales.
Why would BFV numbers suffer so much?
I've not kept up with that game but it doesn't seem to have a lot of positive hype around it right now?
I've not kept up with that game but it doesn't seem to have a lot of positive hype around it right now?
I'd consider selling 170k pretty different from selling 85k and would be more on par with what i'd expect out of a bad online spin-off of a super popular franchise. That's all I wanted to say. It's still a disappointment in regard to what the Fallout franchise is nowadays, that's for sure.
- Lack of content at launch
- No Battle Royale mode at launch
- Drawn out release schedule leading to a lack of initial hype
- Very similar setting and weaponry to the previous game
- Releasing right after the juggernauts of BO4 and RDR2
- Bungled and tonally inconsistent marketing campaign
I don't think it's going to flop or anything but I really don't think it's going to do as good as BF1 did. My bet would be in between Hardline and BF4.
The likelihood that FO76 has a 50% digital ratio is very low. Games nowadays usually sit at 40/60 digital/physical and personally I think the higher price compared to most other digital games will have hurt FO76's ratio quite noticeably.
Atrocious reveal and poor beta would be my guess. WW2 is also old news, too similar to WW1.
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I don't think so- just speaking from personal experience I don't see/hear Smash talked about much here. Pokemon has always been massive here and I'm open to being corrected by people with actual factual information but yeah Smash isn't quite all that in the UK I don't think. It'll still do well though- I'm expecting something in-between Odyssey & Pokemon.
Really good news for Spyro. Any platformer doing well is good news as far as I'm concerned.
Pokemon did alright. Not really looking forward to the spin and fanboy wars over the next few weeks over these sales. In my view, this first week was probably under what Nintendo wanted, especially after the Pokemon Go craze, but it's certainly not negative news.
Fallout 76 looks terrible, no surprises there. I feel like the negative PR surrounding it will make things even more dire in the weeks to come.
Pokemon did alright. Not really looking forward to the spin and fanboy wars over the next few weeks over these sales. In my view, this first week was probably under what Nintendo wanted, especially after the Pokemon Go craze, but it's certainly not negative news.
Fallout 76 looks terrible, no surprises there. I feel like the negative PR surrounding it will make things even more dire in the weeks to come.
Ah ok, thanks for the previsions. Hopefully it will be solved for Black Friday.
I'm not sure how giving my view on the sales constitutes as spin. I don't have an agenda for the success of these games.
There were supply issues so I doubt Nintendo are unhappy with the numbers if it couldn't really sell much more.
the game had an amazing launch, biggest switch launch so far, comparable to other pokemon launches on much bigger user bases, while being the most expensive pokemon game released so far, you're making it seem like a mediocre launch and below what nintendo expected. sounds like a spin to me.
Most of the big Switch games being up, some massively so, is also a good sign for their software objective overall for this FY and possibly their hardware too. It'll be interesting to see the percentage increases for Smash's launch too as a comparison.
On one hand, I don't like seeing any games 'fail', especially in today's difficult climate, but on the other hand, given the mostly negative vibes it is receiving, and the rather strange manner in which the game rolled out, I don't feel bad seeing Fallout 76 where it is.
I am absolutely chuffed to bits to see Spyro the Dragon topping the charts!
Good grief at that split!
And Pokémon Let's Go is doing very, very well for a Pokémon game here in the UK.
The sad news is seeing Hitman 2 so low down, and is just about holding onto the top ten...
Seems like both Spider-Man and Forza Horizon 4 are out of the top ten for the first time too.
I am absolutely chuffed to bits to see Spyro the Dragon topping the charts!
Good grief at that split!
And Pokémon Let's Go is doing very, very well for a Pokémon game here in the UK.
The sad news is seeing Hitman 2 so low down, and is just about holding onto the top ten...
Seems like both Spider-Man and Forza Horizon 4 are out of the top ten for the first time too.
Can't speak for the UK, but I've seen this as a promoted tweet many times in Australia recently:
Nobody doubted that this would be Switch's biggest launch. But let's look at the numbers: XY sold 124,000 which is probably slightly less than Let's Go when you factor in digital sales. Let's Go is a remake of the most well known generation coming off Pokemon Go, a mobile game that made waves across mobile and the world. It's reasonable to expect Let's Go to ride at least some of the zeitgeist from Pokemon Go, and yet its done roughly the same numbers as XY. How much of a difference would stock shortages and a slightly larger install base have made? Perhaps a moderate amount, but probably not anything too significant. Regardless, this was not the bad launch that many wanted for whatever reason. It wasn't the "amazing" success that their opponents wanted. It was OK. As I said, the final tally of 116,000 is likely under what Nintendo wanted. Until we get more information from next week and beyond, we don't have the full context to fully judge these results.
If the second/third weeks shows a strong hold, then stock shortages were a significant factor to the final number, and I will re-evaluate my opinion.
how are you so sure what nintendo expected from the game in the UK? doesn't the fact that there were shortages prove that it exceeded their expectations?
Spyro on top is a nice thing to see, I know Let's Go combined would have been topped, but after hearing many people saying that it was going to dominate, good to see it top. Been having a blast with it all week, had to stop today to watch the MST3K Turkey Day marathon, but will jump back in tomorrow after work.
Let's Go seems to do what a pokemon game would do. No Surprises there. It looks like it will probably do standard Remake Numbers but we'll have to see other countries first before making that call. Legs are the interesting thing for it.
Sorry for not picking up Hitman, I haven't beaten the first and Spyro was my buy for the week. I'll try and grab it later on, but I do also have the first game to playthrough first.
Fallout 76 seems to be a misfire.
Let's Go seems to do what a pokemon game would do. No Surprises there. It looks like it will probably do standard Remake Numbers but we'll have to see other countries first before making that call. Legs are the interesting thing for it.
Sorry for not picking up Hitman, I haven't beaten the first and Spyro was my buy for the week. I'll try and grab it later on, but I do also have the first game to playthrough first.
Fallout 76 seems to be a misfire.
I'm not. How are you so sure that this was an "amazing" launch? That's the whole point of predictions, discussions and debates. Nobody has any idea as to what Nintendo wants or is expecting.
We don't know why there were shortages. It could be unfulfilled demand or logistics issues (based of people not getting pre-orders), who knows.
Cross posting from the Cheap Arse thread. Looks like the Hitman 2 performance isn't going to be limited to the UK. 24 Euros already.
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We received the review key for Dishonored 2 two days before release. And we received the review key for Fallout 76... two days before release.
I've never seen a link between the quality of the game and when we received the review key. It changes from publisher to publisher, but not game to game.
Why? If we forget Fallout 4 (I still don't understand why this game did so well), I think sales of Fallout 76 are good for a multiplayer spin-off compared to Fallout 3 or Fallout New Vegas, even without digital. And I think it will do better in the US and have good legs. It's like saying "Metal Gear Survive sold less than Metal Gear Solid V, it was a disaster." No. Fallout 76 is a spin-off, made by another studio (Bethesda Austin, formerly Battle Cry Studios), probably for a lot less money than the main games.