There's a badge you can buy from the start of the game that swaps back to the OG soundtrack (uses no BP). Only costs 1 coin, so it's basically given for free.
Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door Remake announced (2024)
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There's a badge you can buy from the start of the game that swaps back to the OG soundtrack (uses no BP). Only costs 1 coin, so it's basically given for free.
Yeah I liked the recent paper Mario games but I really miss how IS handled her in the first 3 games.I just hope they keep Peach's dialogue intact. The first three Paper Mario games give her the best writing across all her appearances.
Gotta admit, I kinda like the new dialogue more. The original was just some pretty basic cat-calling jibs (which is kinda funny when it's aimed at a goomba), but the "OoOoO I can breath CLEAN AIR" is really funny.
The Goomba's line is funnier, but the other lines don't seem as good IMO. I'm guessing they changed it so the Goombas more directly pick a fight with Mario rather than Goombella. I kinda prefer the original for the novelty of Mario going into a sewer, and having Goombas immediately target someone that isn't him. It's a nice little moment that conveys how different the land is from the Mushroom Kingdom, and how Mario isn't the centre of the universe.
Apart from removing the catcalling, I've noticed they seem to be minimising the use of gendered language in general. Lord Crump doesn't call Goombella "girl" anymore, and the quiz Thwomp no longer refers to the audience as "ladies and germs".
Apart from removing the catcalling, I've noticed they seem to be minimising the use of gendered language in general. Lord Crump doesn't call Goombella "girl" anymore, and the quiz Thwomp no longer refers to the audience as "ladies and germs".
I remember Miyamoto mentioning about how pleased he was to finally make her the 'strong, powerful princess' in the Super Mario Bros movie, and I'm like "You had this! You literally had this in Paper Mario!". Then New Super Mario Bros had her going back to hosting with cake and tea and getting kidnapped. I know one is a mainline series and the other is an off-shoot of the series, but it felt like such a huge regression.
I loved this game on GC. I always thought the following was hilarious.
When you came back from a level Luigi was there and he'd also done an adventure, but it was rubbish in comparison to what you'd just experienced. The writing was great 😅
The Goomba dialogue change is a bit lame, but its replacement isn't horrible, and ultimately a very tiny blight.
You can't go wrong with either, but the former is a very classic take on SNES RPGs (with a Mario flair) while the latter takes cues from more modern (at the time) design paradigms.
Try out Paper Mario 64 since it's the precursor to TTYD and serves as a bridge between the two games.
Sorry I gotta ask... great weiting compared to other mario games or simply great writing?
Oh! Does it play like mario and luigi superstar saga btw ?
Hmmmm on one hand I'd like to say I'll just play all 3, but that probably will never happen tbh
Great writing in the sense that it's clever, charming and funny. Don't go in expecting a mindblowing serious story or anything though. Though Mario RPGs do get a *bit* darker than Mario proper does.
Doesn't have to be dark to be a good story !
Alright, I'll wait for reviews and I'll decide, but TTYD seems interesting :)
You may get differing opinions, but as someone who played SMRPG for the first time with the remake, it shocked me at how barebones it felt. Those bones are great, don't get me wrong, but TTYD just has a lot more meat to it and I think you'd come away finding it the more memorable game in terms of story and characters. Things really didn't have a lot of time to breathe in SMRPG, I found.
It being only like 15 hours long is very refreshing for the genre though.
That's actually a great selling point rofl
Sorry, I didn't mean to derail the thread to a SMRPG vs TTYD thread tho !
It might not breathe, but it never stopping and having all the cool things right after one another is really neat. They could've easily spread that content out to a 30 hour game, but they didn't.
Actually, Parakarry appears as well, in the opening cutscene!Wonder how many people know that these sprites were unused/cut in TTYD? Funnily enough, Lady Bow was the only one that made it into the actual game. Still holding out hope that they add the 64 partners to the overworld somewhere, or hear me out, utilize them in some post-game content! (I'm coping)
List of Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door pre-release and unused content
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Yeah, SMRPG can easily be beaten in a week, so it's a good time to check it out prior to TTYD. It does feel a little at times like a Final Fantasy game with a Mario skin over it, but it's great fun.
Paper Mario 64 is slightly longer, but again you can beat it in a week if you push for it.
Paper Mario 64 is slightly longer, but again you can beat it in a week if you push for it.
Try not to think of it as a Mario game. It's a RPG with Mario characters.
Actually, speaking of cut content, I recently found out that they originally intended for Mario to go back around the globe re-recruiting his partners in the postgame. There's unused dialogue written for each encounter. I get why they'd nix that idea but I would've liked that, esp. since you can pipe over to them with ease.
oh it's gotta. And now that we know they are going hard with the OST, I'm wondering if they'll take other opportunities to vary up the music more - Hooktail, Gloomtail and Bonetail having unique versions of the same theme. Magnus 1 & 2.
Oh that's so true, those will def have variants, so excited!
Pit of 100 Trials seems so silly but it's one of my favorite parts of the game because of how tense and moody it feels to be in the later parts of the Trial trying to survive!
With all the little changes added to this remake I wouldn't be surprised at this point nglWonder how many people know that these sprites were unused/cut in TTYD? Funnily enough, Lady Bow was the only one that made it into the actual game. Still holding out hope that they add the 64 partners to the overworld somewhere, or hear me out, utilize them in some post-game content! (I'm coping)
List of Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door pre-release and unused content
This is a list of pre-release and unused content for the game Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door.
The fact that this even seems plausible just shows how much love is going into this remake haha
Same. The pits in TTYD and SPM are defining childhood gaming moments. Honestly even apart from the battle theme, it'd be cool if the area theme itself changed (possibly got more dissonant/creepy?) as you got lower.
I hope they do this for the ancient city like Bowser's Castle in 64.
I don't know how well known this is, but you can talk to Luigi's "partners" he brings along to tell you about his adventures and they have some of the funniest dialogue in the game lol
One change that I found interesting is that Hooktail is now explicitly referred to as female by everyone, rather than all the Petalburg villagers referring to her by "he/him" or "it" and saving the reveal of her true nature for when you fight her sibling as a...gag, I guess? Seems there'll be no dragon misgendering this time around, though.
That reminds me, considering how they seem to be redoing the translation that means they'll probably fix Luigi's story so it's obvious that his whole journey is basically to defeat King Goomba, aka the tutorial boss from the first Paper Mario lmao.
I keep forgetting that there's an entire generation of people that never had the chance to play this game and had to listen to us constantly raving about it.
Hopefully they'll enjoy it as much as we did back in the day.
Hopefully they'll enjoy it as much as we did back in the day.
This one seems to have gotten away from them. The "Chestnut King" exists in fans' imagination (there's plenty of fanart out there theorizing what he looks like) and they've seemingly preserved it as a result. It'd be great if they addressed this with an extra bit of dialogue from one of his partners or after his story is wrapped.
Wait, why do people think "Chestnut King" is a translation error? Is it because the original Japanese script specifically mentions the Goomba King from PM64?
This one seems to have gotten away from them. The "Chestnut King" exists in fans' imagination (there's plenty of fanart out there theorizing what he looks like) and they've seemingly preserved it as a result. It'd be great if they addressed this with an extra bit of dialogue from one of his partners or after his story is wrapped.
He's named "Goomba King" in all other languages. It's possible the gag is difficult to translate, though, as the story includes so many food references.
Short version is Goomba's are called Kuribo in JP, Kuri referring to chestnuts, and King Goomba is Kuri King. For whatever reason, the OG localization actually translated Kuri to Chestnut.
It was always so odd. Like it would've been a dumb joke anyway, but iirc it's not even… presented as one? Like Gloomtail just calls her his sister and no one acknowledges it or makes a joke about it right?
I don't know if it's so much of a joke as it is two one translator not getting the memo about what Hooktail's gender is lol.
God Lord...