For once, the best picture really did win.
Is there a video of the announcement? I just made it in time for the tail end of the speech.
I'd also suggest Mother. Personally I think its his best film though all his films are worth watching but the opening scene of Mother is something magical, and of course the rest of the film is great.
Snowpiercer and Okja are probably his weakest well-known movies IMO.
Of the ones I've seen, this is how I'd rank them:
1) Parasite
2) Memories of Murder
3) Mother
4) The Host
5) Okja
6) Snowpiercer
The library is your friend for stuff like this.Thanks for the responses. I'll try to track down Memories of Murder and Mother.
Odds are they aren't, but most can do interlibrary loans, that was how I tracked down Mother and Memories of Murder.Thanks. I checked Hoopla and no luck. I'll try to head down to the library in-person this week and see if these movies are there.
1) ParasiteSnowpiercer and Okja are probably his weakest well-known movies IMO.
Of the ones I've seen, this is how I'd rank them:
1) Parasite
2) Memories of Murder
3) Mother
4) The Host
5) Okja
6) Snowpiercer
Has anybody put any thought into the significance of
Ki-taek previously working st the cake shop the crazy guy owned, and what happened to the old housekeeper that made her look so crazy/unhealthy after a couple weeks of unemployment after she gets fired?
I've literally just come home from seeing it and my take is this:I feel dumb because I didn't really "get" the movie. Like it totally had some sort of theme, I just somehow missed what it was. The main characters are a "parasite" that slowly creep into and take over the rich family. But then when you are expecting it to switch and show the rich people are the real parasites it doesn't at all but introduces another family of parasites. And instead of the two groups working together they fight which results in death and mayhem. So is the message, stay away from poor people and properly vet them otherwise they will murder you just because you think they smell? The rich people didn't cause the flooding - and it's hard to believe with how long the scam had been going on for that they had no money or savings to replace what they lost. So why then are they trying to make us feel bad for the main characters dad who is a murderer? I didn't get it at all.
I absolutely just assumed it was a horror. Maybe more than assumed, what little I've seen sets it up that it might go that way. Definitely marketing.Alot of the marketing and some of the buzz makes it sound like a horror film. I personally thought it was a horror film until I actually saw it.
I've literally just come home from seeing it and my take is this:The poor aren't the parasites, and in this case the rich aren't particularly either (the dad seems to run an innocuous tech company when they could have made it easily some horrible oil company or something).
I'd say the film is taking aim at the larger system we are all a part of. The rich float above it all most of the time while the poor fight tooth and nail to climb over each other to get the scraps.
I'd imagine there's far more of a message going on that I've probably not fully taken in but that was my overall take. The worst thing the rich family did is to judge those below them and believe they were different, with the focus on the "smell." That and just being rich.
Like if the ending doesn't hammer that point home...Bong has stated the real parasite is hope and the insane paths it can take people down trying to make a dream a reality... even if it's a total impossibility.
I feel dumb because I didn't really "get" the movie. Like it totally had some sort of theme, I just somehow missed what it was. The main characters are a "parasite" that slowly creep into and take over the rich family. But then when you are expecting it to switch and show the rich people are the real parasites it doesn't at all but introduces another family of parasites. And instead of the two groups working together they fight which results in death and mayhem. So is the message, stay away from poor people and properly vet them otherwise they will murder you just because you think they smell? The rich people didn't cause the flooding - and it's hard to believe with how long the scam had been going on for that they had no money or savings to replace what they lost. So why then are they trying to make us feel bad for the main characters dad who is a murderer? I didn't get it at all.
Yeah that was hard to watchWatched this again last night and loved it even more the second time around.
One thing I guess I sort of didn't really get the first time I saw it is when the old caretakers husband is banging his forehead against the light switch/power breaker thing desperately trying to get Mr Parks attention with Morse Code because his wife was dying. I don't how I missed that the first time around, I guess I just thought he was crazy and was upset but he was trying to call for help, that shit broke my heart last night. Man from that point on the movie really takes a tragic turn.
Watched this again last night and loved it even more the second time around.
One thing I guess I sort of didn't really get the first time I saw it is when the old caretakers husband is banging his forehead against the light switch/power breaker thing desperately trying to get Mr Parks attention with Morse Code because his wife was dying. I don't how I missed that the first time around, I guess I just thought he was crazy and was upset but he was trying to call for help, that shit broke my heart last night. Man from that point on the movie really takes a tragic turn.
I've literally just come home from seeing it and my take is this:The poor aren't the parasites, and in this case the rich aren't particularly either (the dad seems to run an innocuous tech company when they could have made it easily some horrible oil company or something).
I'd say the film is taking aim at the larger system we are all a part of. The rich float above it all most of the time while the poor fight tooth and nail to climb over each other to get the scraps.
I'd imagine there's far more of a message going on that I've probably not fully taken in but that was my overall take. The worst thing the rich family did is to judge those below them and believe they were different, with the focus on the "smell." That and just being rich.
Bong has stated the real parasite is hope and the insane paths it can take people down trying to make a dream a reality... even if it's a total impossibility.
Watched this again last night and loved it even more the second time around.
One thing I guess I sort of didn't really get the first time I saw it is when the old caretakers husband is banging his forehead against the light switch/power breaker thing desperately trying to get Mr Parks attention with Morse Code because his wife was dying. I don't how I missed that the first time around, I guess I just thought he was crazy and was upset but he was trying to call for help, that shit broke my heart last night. Man from that point on the movie really takes a tragic turn.
I absolutely just assumed it was a horror. Maybe more than assumed, what little I've seen sets it up that it might go that way. Definitely marketing.
What got me the last time I saw it was this little monologue:
I just feel comfortable here.
It feels like I was born here.
Maybe I had my wedding here, too.
As for the National Pension, I don't qualify.
In my old age, love will comfort me.
So please, let me live down here.
Just absolute hopeless resignation, spoken over relics of his past life in the sun.
You see this is my complaint with the movie. The rich are afforded a subtle portrayal that is not afforded to the poor family. All of the visual language lends to the idea of the poor being parasites and characterizes them as insects scurrying and continues to reinforce this with dialogue and acting. The rich are dependent on the poor family but there's no blunt reinforcement from the script that is constantly directed towards the poor. Things like their house being automated by the poor are glanced over. The faults of the rich in this movie come from indifference or disgust which is a different type of malice.
The rich are portrayed as soulless, emotionally alienated from each other, and primarily concerned with trivialities. The father repeatedly tries to form some kind of emotional understanding of Mr. Park's motivation throughout the film ("you love her") only to see finally that there's nothing there. No concern for anything beyond himself.
Yeah and that's exactly what I said. That's not parasitism. it's indifference.
Yeah and that's exactly what I said. That's not parasitism. it's indifference.
I don't think the rich family is intended to be portrayed as parasitic.
I don't think the rich family is intended to be portrayed as parasitic though.
The film isn't saying the rich are parasites, which is what I guess people are expecting. The parasite is our ugly desire to be like them
But this is trash too because it allows the rich to escape and live in utopia while directing the poor to learn how to find nirvana in poverty.
But this is trash too because it allows the rich to escape and live in utopia while directing the poor to learn how to find nirvana in poverty.
You see this is my complaint with the movie. The rich are afforded a subtle portrayal that is not afforded to the poor family. All of the visual language lends to the idea of the poor being parasites and characterizes them as insects scurrying and continues to reinforce this with dialogue and acting. The rich are dependent on the poor family but there's no blunt reinforcement from the script that is constantly directed towards the poor. Things like their house being automated by the poor are glanced over. The faults of the rich in this movie come from indifference or disgust which is a different type of malice.
From the man himself
"Because the story is about the poor family infiltrating and creeping into the rich house, it seems very obvious that Parasite refers to the poor family, and I think that's why the marketing team was a little hesitant," he explained. "But if you look at it the other way, you can say that rich family, they're also parasites in terms of labor. They can't even wash dishes, they can't drive themselves, so they leech off the poor family's labor. So both are parasites."
Source: https://www.ign.com/articles/parasi...-behind-the-title-of-the-oscar-nominated-film
The film directly addresses this though. There's a scene where the mother says the poor and the rich are no different, and they only appear nicer because their wealth irons away all the wrinkles. I thought one of the key points of this film was showing how being poor doesn't afford you the luxury of being portrayed positively and in the same way as the rich family was.You see this is my complaint with the movie. The rich are afforded a subtle portrayal that is not afforded to the poor family. All of the visual language lends to the idea of the poor being parasites and characterizes them as insects scurrying and continues to reinforce this with dialogue and acting. The rich are dependent on the poor family but there's no blunt reinforcement from the script that is constantly directed towards the poor. Things like their house being automated by the poor are glanced over. The faults of the rich in this movie come from indifference or disgust which is a different type of malice.
I thought Snowpiercer was terrible, lol. Definitely have to try and see if I can find Mother somewhere, though.
The Rich are parasites though they abuse and use the poor for very little money to do trivial tasks and services like babysitting, educating, homework etc. I even posted a quote from Bong saying a similar thing thing about 5 mins ago.The film isn't saying the rich are parasites, which is what I guess people are expecting. The parasite is our ugly desire to be like them
The Rich are parasites though they abuse and use the poor for very little money to do trivial tasks and services like babysitting, educating, homework etc. I even posted a quote from Bong saying a similar thing thing about 5 mins ago.
imo the rich are not being parasited, only the poor, he parasites the workers of the company for their wealth, could be a discussion if the poor family is parasiting the workers of the rich family company, but i think that would be to neglect the poor family work, even the teenage girl has a meaningfull job taking care of the kid something the rich woman does not do.the poor have to parasite the rich to eat and the rich parasite the poor to outsource their problems
Sure a title can have multiple meanings, doesn't change the statement he made.Bong's also said the true parasite is hope so he's got a couple different interpretations of the title's meaning.
The Rich are parasites though they abuse and use the poor for very little money to do trivial tasks and services like babysitting, educating, homework etc. I even posted a quote from Bong saying a similar thing thing about 5 mins ago.
imo the rich are not being parasited, only the poor, he parasites the workers of the company for their wealth, could be a discussion if the poor family is parasiting the workers of the rich family company, but i think that would be to neglect the poor family work, even the teenage girl has a meaningfull job taking care of the kid something the rich woman does not do.
So in my perspective the only parasites are the bourgeois family sucking the fruits of the labor of the workers that live in shitty conditions, while they have the "korean dream" in a nice house with people doing all their needs.
Exactly, the fact that we're saying the poor are even parasites is just a failure of this movie's visual language and script to me. The rich benefit from the poor. It's not a parasitic relationship. We see maybe a 1 minute total of what happens when the rich are without the poor.
Exactly, the fact that we're saying the poor are even parasites is just a failure of this movie's visual language and script to me. The rich benefit from the poor. It's not a parasitic relationship. We see maybe a 1 minute total of what happens when the rich are without the poor.
It should've been called "Bong Joon-ho's Seventh Film" to save us this problem.
it's a core condition of capitalism. Bong, who is assuredly coming at this from a historical materialist perspective and understands that under capitalism the classes are locked in a co-dependent relationshipimo the rich are not being parasited, only the poor, he parasites the workers of the company for their wealth, could be a discussion if the poor family is parasiting the workers of the rich family company, but i think that would be to neglect the poor family work, even the teenage girl has a meaningfull job taking care of the kid something the rich woman does not do.
So in my perspective the only parasites are the bourgeois family sucking the fruits of the labor of the workers that live in shitty conditions, while they have the "korean dream" in a nice house with people doing all their needs.