disgusting but seriously though, anyone...
how many actual "fighting men" do we really think there are that would actually participate in an armed war? 200k? 2 million? 20 million?
do we have any idea? how many daily active Parler users were there?
disgusting but seriously though, anyone...
It is. And they are making it harder for future lawsuits, since they will easily lose this and add to the jurisprudence.
disgusting but seriously though, anyone...
how many actual "fighting men" do we really think there are that would actually participate in an armed war? 200k? 2 million? 20 million?
do we have any idea? how many daily active Parler users were there?
We prepared for events like this by never relying on amazons proprietary infrastructure and building bare metal products.
We will try our best to move to a new provider right now as we have many competing for our business...
Taking on Amazon is smart. They don't have an army of lawyers and endless cash.
The lawsuit sheds some light on Amazon's rationale for banning Parler. In an email, Amazon's moderation team says it is "troubled" by repeated policy violations. The email cites 98 posts that incite violence. It includes screenshots of a call to hang "traitors," as well as an exhortation to "start systematicly assasinating [sic]" liberal leaders, supporters of the Black Lives Matter movement, and others in January — with a note that "I already have a news worthy event planned." Amazon said publicly that it "cannot provide services to a customer that is unable to effectively identify and remove content that encourages or incites violence against others."
21. Yesterday evening, at 6:07 pm PST, web news site BuzzFeed posted an article with screenshots of a letter from AWS to Parler, informing Parler that its account would be suspended at 11:59 pm PST on Sunday, less than thirty hours later. See John Paczkowski, Amazon Is Booting Parler Off of Its Web Hosting Service, BuzzFeed (Jan. 9, 2021), https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/johnpaczkowski/amazon-parler-aws. Strangely, the article with the letter was posted before Parler itself received the letter in an email, received at 7:19 pm PST, over an hour after the BuzzFeed article went online, meaning AWS leaked the letter to BuzzFeed before sending it to Parler. See Exhibit A.
26. What is more, by pulling the plug on Parler but leaving Twitter alone despite identical conduct by users on both sites, AWS reveals that its expressed reasons for suspending Parler's account are but pretext. In its note announcing the pending termination of Parler's service, AWS alleged that "[o]ver the past several weeks, we've reported 98 examples to Parler of posts that clearly encourage and incite violence." Exhibit A. AWS provide a few examples, including one that stated, "How bout make them hang?", followed by a series of hashtags, including "#fu-- mikepence."
43. Further, while AWS used the term "suspension" in its notice to Parler, it stated that it would "ensure that all of your data is preserved for you to migrate to your own servers, and will work with you as best as we can to help your migration." Exhibit A. This is not action AWS would take for a temporary suspension, but rather for a permanent termination. Thus, whatever words AWS used, it was terminating the Agreement with Parler.
From The Verge article about this:
Here's the email they're talking about.
It's very interesting how this email is referred to in the complaint document:
I don't see this going well for Parler at all... But we'll see.
Amazon Web Services said Tuesday that Twitter has signed on to use AWS for its global cloud infrastructure to deliver Twitter timelines. Under the multi-year deal, Twitter will use AWS infrastructure and products across compute, containers, storage, and security, marking the first time Twitter has leveraged the public cloud to deliver its real-time service.
damnThere were 4 million active Parler users, unfortunately. Even if only 1% of them were that violent, that's still 40,000 potential domestic terrorists willing to kill in the name of Trump.
After that data breach what savvy Nazi is going to want to use it anyway?
The timing of Kara Swisher's interview with all of this, like... she was interviewing the CEO of Parler *right as the mob* was taking over the Capitol and he was completely flummoxed, couldn't answer any quesstions, and when trying to sound clear basically gave up the crown jewels that Parler doesn't care about violence on its platform unless it's about doxing.
And then within like 24 hours of the interview airing Google, Apple, and Amazon killed the app... and they all cited the Sway interview.
This moment definitely unseats "ZUCKERBERG SWEAT INCREASING" as Kara's most influential moment.
Reportedly, they are since December:
Twitter taps AWS cloud to deliver Twitter timelines
Twitter will use AWS infrastructure and products across compute, containers, storage, and security, marking the first time Twitter has leveraged the public cloud to deliver its real-time service.www.zdnet.com
Yup, no court in the world is gonna rule against amazon in a case like this. Parler is entirely at their mercy using their servers.Parler broke Amazon's rules, and as a private company, Amazon is entitled to kicking people off their service for breaking their rules. Seems pretty open and shut to me.
That's why I haven't been swayed by the "this is a slippery slope to communist China!!!!!!!!" arguments. The reason this hasn't happened to other apps is because other apps aren't more or less designed to incite riots against the government. Yes, the fact that Amazon/Google/Apple have so much control over what gets surfaced online is upsetting, but this has been a problem for a decade and for some reason no one was taking it seriously until now.
The amount of 1st amendment posts I'm seeing on my feed within the past 24 hours tells me people are pissed, royally pissed.
Parler would still be up if they got their shit together and took care of the flood of extremist rhetoric.
They only have themselves to blame.
No way. The lawyer that suggests that is going to get fired. They'll simply showcase SEC230, part2. This allows any provider to remove any content they deem "obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable, whether or not such material is constitutionally protected", as long as they act "in good faith" in this action.Amazon will settle with the owner out of court, send him off with a nice pat in the back.
That paragraph could just as well be talking about Facebook or Twitter.
You mean people other than conservatives used the platform unironically?
Reportedly, they are since December:
Twitter taps AWS cloud to deliver Twitter timelines
Twitter will use AWS infrastructure and products across compute, containers, storage, and security, marking the first time Twitter has leveraged the public cloud to deliver its real-time service.www.zdnet.com
Facebook or Twitter are not hosted on Amazon. In the paper they filed you can see that Amazon repeatedly requested Parler to take action and moderate the content with real examples.That paragraph could just as well be talking about Facebook or Twitter.