Do you realize the irony in what you just posted?I hope in the last 5 years something has changed, because I don't want to pay for premium anymore if the site can't give its staffers a living wage.
let's be real OP made this thread to "drag" Giant Bomb when based on the context and follow up tweets, that wasn't anything close to Patrick's Intent. That's just the nature of the internet these days tho.
My initial thought is, "wow, this guy has been overpaid most of his career. Good for him."
No kidding. If you want to drag Giant Bomb, the OT's in Gaming Hangouts.
But how much do teachers make a year? That should be the real outrage TBH
Why is it not fair? Giant Bomb is owned by Viacom, a huge conglomerate (that also owns MTV). What is not fair is comparing them to EZA, a small independent group that's mostly funded via Patreon.GiantBomb is a great site but yeah, it's not exactly fair to compare them to MTV, EGM, Vice, or Kotaku. They work on a much more threadbare budget and have a much smaller audience.
EZ Allies rakes in maybe $500,000 per year on Patreon. After production costs, that gets split between 8-9 people......I suspect the situation was much the same in the early days of Whiskey Media/GiantBomb.
is the figure of 65k supposed to garner outrage? It's a job in the media, they pay like shit across the board. My first job out of college following a journalism degree I got 24 thousand euro a year in Ireland.
I got out of the industry because the pay and prospects were so bad
They weren't when he was hired, they were owned by whiskey media.Why is it not fair? Giant Bomb is owned by Viacom, a huge conglomerate (that also owns MTV). What is not fair is comparing them to EZA, a small independent group that's mostly funded via Patreon.
giant bomb was doing what eza was doing years before patreon was even a thingWhy is it not fair? Giant Bomb is owned by Viacom, a huge conglomerate (that also owns MTV). What is not fair is comparing them to EZA, a small independent group that's mostly funded via Patreon.
let's be real OP made this thread to "drag" Giant Bomb when based on the context and follow up tweets, that wasn't anything close to Patrick's Intent. That's just the nature of the internet these days tho.
I know two ex game devs (back when we had to go into the office, I used to stop by their cubes daily), both nearly doubled their salaries by joining healthcare IT doing boring regular-ass programming. So I believe it. One worked for EA/Mythic, the other I forget.
It was 9 years ago when he started. He never asked for a raise. You're ignoring the other tweets he made.- I meant this for the gaming section (I had two tabs open and accidentally hit "new thread" in etcetera). I reported my post but it hasn't been moved yet.
- I made a thread for this separately from the larger thread about people sharing their wages in relationship to BIPOC wage disparity. It is not more important than the larger discussion. Patrick's tweet was applicable to the gaming section while the larger thread was here in off-topic.
- 1UP is a defunct company. Giant Bomb has continued onward and hired more people. I also don't know anything about how 1UP presented itself.
- I stand by my claim that Giant Bomb presents itself as hip. It's not Gen-Z hip, but their brand is built on lots of "duder" and off topic podcast discussions. Their best of videos always open with a clip of something zany happening to the crew and everyone laughing. It's about people having fun playing video games, not some corporate soul-sucker. Listen to a clip of them asking for subscribers during their subscription drive. "We couldn't do this without you." That is the image they present.
- Issues with game company pay are well-known. I haven't heard anything similar for the games press, so I thought I would make a thread.
- "Cancelling your subscription means less money for the staffers!" Maybe so, but I'm not sure where the money is going now. I would love for this to spark discussion of current GB wages. If it can't exist without giving its employees poverty wages, I don't feel comfortable supporting it.
"Cancelling your subscription means less money for the staffers!" Maybe so, but I'm not sure where the money is going now. I would love for this to spark discussion of current GB wages. If it can't exist without giving its employees poverty wages, I don't feel comfortable supporting it.
What's the other thread some of you referred to?Agreed.
Whatever salary he agreed to at the time is between him and the company and the time that he took the position. This isn't a question about whether his salary matches other people (like in the BA thread), since there's nothing to compare his salary to. Just because you feel that it's low does reflect anything on his expectations.
If he himself is not upset by that salary when he's listing it himself, then there's nothing to upset about. Save your pitchforks for better causes.
The point of his tweet is that he didn't feel that he had representation to ask for more until he was in a union and that bettered him financially. Not to throw others under the bus.
- Issues with game company pay are well-known. I haven't heard anything similar for the games press, so I thought I would make a thread.
Did anyone entertain the notion that games media people were paid well?
And this was 9 years ago.You've never heard of game press talking about being paid shit?? That's strange.
As things go, for a writer in Bay Area for an enthusiast site, 65k is pretty OK actually.
- I meant this for the gaming section (I had two tabs open and accidentally hit "new thread" in etcetera). I reported my post but it hasn't been moved yet.
- I made a thread for this separately from the larger thread about people sharing their wages in relationship to BIPOC wage disparity. It is not more important than the larger discussion. Patrick's tweet was applicable to the gaming section while the larger thread was here in off-topic.
- 1UP is a defunct company. Giant Bomb has continued onward and hired more people. I also don't know anything about how 1UP presented itself.
- I stand by my claim that Giant Bomb presents itself as hip. It's not Gen-Z hip, but their brand is built on lots of "duder" and off topic podcast discussions. Their best of videos always open with a clip of something zany happening to the crew and everyone laughing. It's about people having fun playing video games, not some corporate soul-sucker. Listen to a clip of them asking for subscribers during their subscription drive. "We couldn't do this without you." That is the image they present.
- Issues with game company pay are well-known. I haven't heard anything similar for the games press, so I thought I would make a thread.
- "Cancelling your subscription means less money for the staffers!" Maybe so, but I'm not sure where the money is going now. I would love for this to spark discussion of current GB wages. If it can't exist without giving its employees poverty wages, I don't feel comfortable supporting it.
OP conveniently ignoring all context around Patrick's tweet - including the fact that this was nearly a decade ago, and bringing in baseless speculation about premium subscription money. Thread was clearly made in bad faith. "I'm a GB fan I swear".. k.
I was referring to the Bon Appetit thread, where people were justifiably discussing how much Sohla makes compared to other staff members.
- I meant this for the gaming section (I had two tabs open and accidentally hit "new thread" in etcetera). I reported my post but it hasn't been moved yet.
- I made a thread for this separately from the larger thread about people sharing their wages in relationship to BIPOC wage disparity. It is not more important than the larger discussion. Patrick's tweet was applicable to the gaming section while the larger thread was here in off-topic.
- 1UP is a defunct company. Giant Bomb has continued onward and hired more people. I also don't know anything about how 1UP presented itself.
- I stand by my claim that Giant Bomb presents itself as hip. It's not Gen-Z hip, but their brand is built on lots of "duder" and off topic podcast discussions. Their best of videos always open with a clip of something zany happening to the crew and everyone laughing. It's about people having fun playing video games, not some corporate soul-sucker. Listen to a clip of them asking for subscribers during their subscription drive. "We couldn't do this without you." That is the image they present.
- Issues with game company pay are well-known. I haven't heard anything similar for the games press, so I thought I would make a thread.
- "Cancelling your subscription means less money for the staffers!" Maybe so, but I'm not sure where the money is going now. I would love for this to spark discussion of current GB wages. If it can't exist without giving its employees poverty wages, I don't feel comfortable supporting it.
He's on paternity leave right now. He, Rob, and Cato run vice games together.I'm most surprised at him making 100k now at Waypoint/Vice.
Didn't know they swung around that kind of cash. He's barely even on the podcast last I listened.