I won't post Tweet reply I got from Input Mapper dev regarding Steam but let's say that it was on same level at that one or even worse.
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PC Gaming Era | December 2018 - We got 99 problems, but 76 ain't one
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I won't post Tweet reply I got from Input Mapper dev regarding Steam but let's say that it was on same level at that one or even worse.
The ai in Manhunt is totally broken without patching it lol. Running into walls, not finishing loops and so on. What a port
It's perfectly possible to actively use something while acknowledging how awful that something is lol, nothing is stopping you from doing both. Like I can make my complaints about Era sharing similar qualities of it's parent forum and seeing that there's nothing being done to fix those bad qualities but you're still gonna find me using it, because it passes the time and I can amuse myself with it.
I use steam. I play my games on steam. I use the features on steam. It's still going to be a shitty platform so as long as it's issues that include community moderation (among other things) exist.
I get lots of valuable information for issues I have in games from there *shrug*.
That's fine!!!!!
It's perfectly fine to acknowledge a shimmer of good quality in something that's more often than not garbage! But don't paint that something as 'good' when it has a myriad of shit as it's baggage!
So that Frost game that was free with Chrono coins is pretty fun. I recommend it. Its like an extremely basic slay the spire sort of...you make a deck of cards to try to survive a cold winter.
damn below on w10 is so fucked valve is helping out
Hey, I know that Matt! He is awesome people.
i got into the Project Stream beta but haven't yet touched the game (wanted to be able to play it in 60fps glory)
guess i'd better try the damn thing in the next few weeks
I think he meant baby friendly as in he has a baby he has to look after, but now that I think about it I dont think you can pause in MHW and the hunts take an hour so it is probably the least baby friendly game ever.
Visibility might be a problem simply due to the amount of games steam gets. This is a problem for any large platform. Hell it's becoming a problem for me when looking at switch new releases. Steam forum are a reflection of the gamers that post there. Apparently gamers have a huge racism problem. But I don't think the solution is to kill steam. People are so extreme. This isn't even the first competitor to steam. I don't know why so many people are losing their minds.
I know what he meant and I stand by what I said. Between no pausing like Dark Souls and hunts taking a long time and being overall stressful (like Dark Souls), I dont see how that is a good game to play whilst looking after an infant :p
Hitman 2! Story isn't important in these games at all it's all about exploring the areas and trying stuff out.
Went to redeem Subnautica and read the text next to the checkbox and it says something along the lines to tick it to NOT receive e-mails about their projects on Epic store etc. This ish ought to be the other way around :V
And throwing around your briefcase!
The only Epic exclusive I might buy when it releases on Steam.
If you browse the Origin store and filter by "new to Origin Access," it's there. Page if you click through says "will be included in Premier," albeit not when.
I'm sticking with Basic, though.
I agree with both of these posts. It's why I tend to avoid social media and stick to forums, although those are being infected by the same attitude too.
I'm going to make a thread about this old blog post from Jeff Vogel, I would implore you to read it.
http://jeff-vogel.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-indie-bubble-is-popping.html
Jeff directly credits Valve for creating a market that allowed indie devs to flourish. The makers of Rebel Galaxy Outlaw did the same in their Epic Store Q&A. It is a fact that most indie developers out there owe their success or livelihood to Valve. Calling Valve "digital Gamestop" is so ridiculously reductive and so far from reality that it's almost not worth replying to it.
Read the blog post I linked to above.
I will buy the game on Steam instead of using the Epic Store to download it, it looks like an interesting game. Unless of course the developer signs an exclusivity deal.
Steam forums are a valuable resource. I'm not defending the assholes that post there or the lax moderation. The system itself is necessary.
Steam is by far the best digital platform out there. The fact that some of its features can and should be improved doesn't change that.
In the case of Steam, the opposite is true. It is an excellent platform with a shimmer of garbage. Saying otherwise won't make it a reality. Steam is an excellent service.
Accumulated my list of 2018 releases I played across all platforms and I think listing a Top 10 will be pretty easy this year. My #1 is basically unchallenged since January.
Still have to play more of Dragon Quest XI and maybe get Return To Obra Dinn and Below before I'm ready to vote.
Still have to play more of Dragon Quest XI and maybe get Return To Obra Dinn and Below before I'm ready to vote.
It's been ages since I've seen Anderson's sunglasses-wearing countenance.
No, it's Celeste for me. Sadly played too little of Monster Hunter World yet to really form an opinion of it.
I would say the most shocking thing for me is RDR2 likely won't make my Top10 this year at all. Even though I loved RDR1 and GTAV.
Even if I take the whole realism angle and overloaded controls (which I got used to to a certain degree) out of the picture, the mission design is just too damn monotone and restrictive. I could maybe live with it being monotone because I get a western setting doesn't offer as much variety as a modern GTA setting, but I hate how you're constantly forced to do everything exactly as the mission designers at Rockstar wanted it to play out.
I'm always just following extremely linear paths during the missions and that just feels so outdated compared to modern Ubi open world games or Breath Of The Wild or even Spider-Man.
what i dislike about these narratives is that it portrays valve in this altruistic position as if they weren't the biggest beneficiaries of the market they, along with the devs that made the games that would be on sale there, had a critical hand in creating
steam is nothing without the amazing games, it's the same with any of the consoles mentioned above. i really dislike this idea that devs shuold be grateful to steam as if steam hasn't been running an insanely profitable business. like giving them a third of your sales isn't thank you enough
and this applies to consoles too, or the epic store or whatever, i thank the artist that made the game i get to enjoy, not the store i bought it from. not trying to hate on steam or pretend they weren't key in the pc market exploding the way it has but that's not something i think they went unrewarded for
i see all the people here throwing vitriol at devs that are gonna publish their games exclusively on the epic store and i'm like, when did the store become more important than the games its selling?
yea i'll concede digital gamestop is too much, i got swept up in the negativity and exaggerated
cos u know at least gamestop lets you sell ur used games
let's see if anyone gets angry over this
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I'd argue that Steam forums are on average like 90% quality, 10% garbage, as long as you acknowledge that forums are just discussion boards, that's their function and expecting more wouldn't be fair. Most threads are queries about this and that, talking about features or fixing bugs and other issues. There are game specific exceptions of course. Games that are hot garbage tend to have forums that are also hot garbage. What I would see as an issue is the lack of moderation if the developer/publisher wants nothing to do with their game specific Steam forum. I don't know what the solution is, but flat out judging the whole system because of that is unreasonable considering how useful the forums on average are. Not a week goes by that I don't go to Steam forums for bug fixes, patch notes or just to see discussion about a game I'm considering buying.
Is it the most important aspect? No.
Is it still very important? Yes.
Don't know why we should start to disregard important aspects like cloud saves, or even basic things like the installer telling us how much space that is required, for the application that will handle our purchases installations and launches.
We're customers, not devs. We shouldn't dismiss our own preferences and needs.
There's nothing altruistic about a company selling a product. The point is that Valve created a market and both developers and Valve benefited from it. The argument is that without Valve, many of these amazing games would have never been created becausethere would be no market to buy them.
You don't need to be grateful, you just have to recognize reality for what it is. Many successful developers earn a good living because Valve gave them a platform with a ton of users to sell their games on.
Steam isn't just a store. It's a platform that provides a lot of extra cool stuff to its customers. Many PC gamers are also pretty hostile towards console-like practices such as paid-for exclusivity. That isn't going to change anytime soon.
Nah, nah, nah. Stop cycling between Civilization, W40K and Trails, it's so annoying.
Remember Games for Windows Live ?
Now you understand why people dont want more clients.
You mean GOTY?
Starts in January, because 2018 is not over yet dammit.
I'd say the store is more important than the games when the store is so shitty it makes me avoid it entirely.
One small example would be refunds. Epic Store allows you two freaking refunds a year. While they are selling early access games. I'm not putting a dollar in a store with that kind of refund policy, I don't give a shit if your game is the best one ever made in the whole of existence
i'm just disregarding it cos people are talking about valve's role in creating the pc market, not steam's value as a client (which is easy to see cos it's packed with neat stuff, that i happen to never use, but neat nonetheless)
without devs making games there wouldn't be any market either. steam is successful because developers make great games people want to buy.
both parts are necessary for the market to exist, i think it's dismissive to think valve "gave them a platform", valve didn't give away anything, if anything they sold it for a revenue share, and it's a platform that gained value from the quality of the games published in it
i find the amount of hostility directed towards developers, specially indies, to be pretty unpleasant
i understand being upset but i feel it's pretty misguided
Yup.
I don't like what Epic is doing, as in them moneyhatting exclusives, but the amount of hostility directed towards the developers is not fine.
You can dislike Epic and the developer for doing what they are doing, but at times it is going too far.
Shitty clients. I don't have problems with clients. Im using Steam, Origin, UPlay, Battle.net and Epic (Fortnite), no problems with them.
sorry, left the idler thing,. if it's of any help it's almost 8 am and i'm about to go to bed so it shouldn't bother you anymore soon
no you're totally right about that, i just don't think it's something worth directing hate towards developers, specially when they have little to do with it. like so many people hoping devs that signed exclusivity to fail feels weird to me, i feel a lot more comfortable with people hating on epic haha
agreed!
Accepting the timed deal and signing it is defenitively on the developers. It has quite a lot to do with them.
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