Pet talk! I'm waiting for the next meeting where Jim's crow is brought up. Should be a fun take.
PlayStation boss Jim Ryan sent an email today asking his staff to "respect differences of opinion" on abortion rights.
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The "official opinion" is to not be a bad person. Just use some common sense over what is a good thing to say and try not to say bad things. Saying women don't have a right to bodily autonomy is a bad thing. Saying they do have a right is a good thing. It's a pretty easy rule to follow.
We can disagree and still love each other unless your disagreement is rooted in my oppression and denial of my humanity and right to exist.
James Baldwin
I mean you can't just distil it like that. You can easily say the opinions are one where people kill an unborn human and one where people don't consider what is unborn to be human. Currenly the US discussion is even more ridiculous because the rights of the unborn and the rights to bodily integrity of women were always based simply on a Supreme Court judgment with the legislature never even bothering to legislate for the issue, ie having an actual public debate it.
Again living in China, if I wrote on a Chinese board I think the government is wrong and we should give protection to the rights of the unborn I'd have my account deleted. Writing even less on Resetera (ie 'people should respect each other's opinions on the issue') has led other users to a ban on here. I don't mind people discussing it, like if I say something and then twenty people tell me I'm wrong or they disagree or even tell me to fuck off is actually a healthy discusion. But the moderators clamping down because you don't follow the party line just means this place will become (or has already become) a bubble of like minded people.
Respecting someone's opinion means you don't agree, but they're free to do or believe what they want.
Respecting someone's opinion isn't you don't agree and therefore you have to force the other person to do what you want.
There's a clear difference between the two when it comes to the pro-choice and pro-life camps.
Respecting someone's opinion isn't you don't agree and therefore you have to force the other person to do what you want.
There's a clear difference between the two when it comes to the pro-choice and pro-life camps.
At the end of the day, there is no debating whether or not women should have bodily autonomy. They should, and anyone trying to crack down on that is wrong.
Think of it this way: only one side is trying to FORCE people to do things against their will, and it's not the side that promotes women having the right to make their own choices with their bodies.
I actually agree with this. But I also believe that the unborn has rights and then it's a balancing act of right to life and right to autonomy. On the other hand, I believe in personal freedom so it's not the role of the state to tell women what to do with their bodies and their unborn babies. Everyone should decide for themselves.
The problem is that one group taking away the ability to decide for themselves, and there is no in between. Women get to decide what to do with their bodies. Period.
Any other opinion is hateful rooted in the oppression of women.
for real, this is happening while Roe v Wade is about to be fucking demolished and the GOP are making plans for a national ban
What if I believe in the rights of the unborn. What if I believe that there is life from conception? Even if you want to find a compromise there, what if I believe there is life from the moment there is a heartbeat (so around 6 weeks) as there is a clinical death when there is no heartbeat. Would I be wrong for simply stating that? Like in this debate there is no scientific right or wrong.
I, too, have a brain that is slowly turning into slurry and making me forgot a 30 year old concept like "message board moderation".
Sure, because being an utter misogynist and tolerating opinions that are going to get women killed is merely "disagreeing with the 'official' opinion". Bigotry should never be tolerated. I wonder why you're okay with Ryan's statement. Would you have been okay if he had asked employees to respect their workmates' racist, homophobic or transphobic opinions? Because that's exactly how bad this is.
You can believe whatever you want without evidence. People will rightly tell you you're fighting against bodily autonomy and basic human rights.
You can't deny that forced childbirth hurts a great number of people, while the counter argument boils down to "well I choose to believe" while forcing your beliefs on everyone else.
Do you believe in a woman's right to her own body or not? It's pretty easy.
You can believe what you want, and you don't have to get an abortion if you don't want to get one. That doesn't mean women who aren't you should be forced to carry babies to term just because you feel that way.
Hi I'm Glace and I'm really concerned about people being able to express their opinion on here, and I'm totally not shit-stirring in a thread about a sensitive issue while conveniently ignoring all context.
Surely you can all see I'm here to argue in good faith
Surely you can all see I'm here to argue in good faith
Anybody trying to defend taking away women rights deserve to be banned and shunned yes. Fuck those people no matter where they live.
It's still a woman's choice who is carrying it. Not yours, not mine, not any man's or even other woman's choice. The only one that has any say is the one carrying the fetus. Full stop.
You don't like it, cool. You don't have to get an abortion and that is the crux of being pro choice.
Hi I'm Bobby42069 and I'm from [insert authoritarian country here] and I am very concerned about free speech in this here forum. (Account created in April 24, 2022, 24 messages)
That "balancing act" is exactly what Roe v. Wade established.
Cool, then believe whatever you want, but your non-scientific belief shouldn't be a basis for stripping away the rights of others.
If people truly respect each other's opinion, then they'd become pro-choice.... because even if I don't like abortion (well, nobody LIKES an abortion) and it's incompatible with my moral/religious values, I respect your choice for having an abortion.
Asking or demanding the lawmakers to make your choice illegal is not respecting your opinion. It's shit like some Christians who claim they love 'the homosexuals' (in the 'hate the sins, love the sinners' way), but they still don't want to see your marriage/union recognized by the country's law.
Asking or demanding the lawmakers to make your choice illegal is not respecting your opinion. It's shit like some Christians who claim they love 'the homosexuals' (in the 'hate the sins, love the sinners' way), but they still don't want to see your marriage/union recognized by the country's law.
Ahh, yes, just a casual bystander concerned about the state of the discourse, coincidentally armed with standard anti-abortion talking points.
"I'm personally placing the line at the heartbeat" doesn't logically follow from "there is no scientific right or wrong", dude.
Never mind that a heartbeat is not at all the sole determination of life and there are plenty of cases where it's considered acceptable to end a life should a heartbeat be basically all that remains.
What?
"dogs really are man's best friend, they know their place, and perform useful functions like biting burglars and chasing balls that you throw for them."
Please tell me he's not literally dog whistling.
"dogs really are man's best friend, they know their place, and perform useful functions like biting burglars and chasing balls that you throw for them."
Please tell me he's not literally dog whistling.
Who the fuck are you trying to fool with the bolded part? You don't believe in women's right to bodily autonomy when you proceed to deny said right by invoking some vague "rights of the unborn".
That's nice. But pregnancy is an incredibly involved process for the woman. Even life threatening in some cases. In the United States, one of the worst maternal mortality rates in the developed world.
Not to mention all of the other issues surrounding childbirth.
So until science changes I guess, it should always be the woman who has the choice to dictate what happens to her body. It is not your concern what she decides. If you don't want an abortion, you are not forced to get one.
Not to dog pile, but overturning of Roe will not protect "unborn". Research has shown that women who want an abortion will get it regardless, but under less hygienic, less safe methods thereby risking their own lives. Overturning of Roe = increased deaths and injury of women. We need to understand that. This action by Supreme Court will lead to deaths of (likely poorer, minority) women. . Then there's a question of bodily autonomy. Why do rich, out of touch white people get to decide you need to carry a fetus to term.
Finally You can believe what you want to believe, but if you do believe in God, I doubt he will ask you "why didn't you support the overturning of Roe" and flick you into hell.
Definitely getting some exercise in tonight that's for sure
why do people keep saying this but completely ignore the dog comment that only makes his original statement way worse?
Honestly fairly easy when people willingly show their ass in broad daylight
It's like playing a game of Whack-A-Mole but the moles stay up whenever they pop out.
Well I really hope this is just Jim Ryan's personal stance (and he can fuck off for that) and not SIE in general. I'm sure most people at PS Studio disagrees with him.
Get pregnant and have the baby. Otherwise it's not your business.
He also shared his TV shows. He said he's watching Anatomy of Scandal
Looks like he has his own real-time Anatomy of a Scandal going on.
Bungie isn't a PS Studio yet. Regulators are looking at the deal as we speak. Bungie made the right call by standing up for human rights.
Seriously, did this grandpa really think all the employees of his company give a shit about what TV shows he's watching?
