PlayStation Studios |OT13| The One With the Price and Release Date. Maybe ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

E.T. · Sep 21, 2020

shinobi602 said:
This moreso levels the playing field. Let's not get too hasty lol.

If big IPs like The Elder Scrolls and Fallout remain exclusive to Xbox, it will certainly push more people to at least pick up an Xbox system or subscribe to Game Pass if they're on PC. I don't think for a second Bethesda joining Xbox will all of a sudden make Playstation players suddenly abandon the ecosystem. It just won't happen. And Sony's growing their studios too, don't worry.

I appreciate your reply. But I am trying to look at this in terms of a long term game. I am certain that this generation will probably still end up with Sony holding a healthy sales lead and position in the market. But beyond that i am not sure when it becomes a game of who can throw more cash at company aquisitions.

DreamSurf said:
Yeah I think people in here are downplaying the news a little. This. Is. Massive. And will change the gaming landscape forever. Sony is actually the small fish when it comes to IP and studios now. It happened literally overnight and all it took was for MS to go "fuck it lets drop some cash". Imagine if they do this again? And again... and again.. until there is nothing left.

That is what I am trying to get at, long term this could be their strategy and competing with it would be nearly impossible. This generation is going to fine, its the ones after that will become scary when the landscape has so much potential to change with these deals in mind.

Btw, I appreciate everybody's replies. Apologies If I do not reply to each of you individually.

I now learned that Fromsoft is owned by a huge corp. and that them letting Fromsoft go is stupid. So that is out of the equation for sure.

s y · Sep 21, 2020

Rodrigues solitaire said:
THIS THREAD JUST NEEDS SOME GODDAMN FAITH

Jim has a goddamn plan lol

dobahking91 · Sep 21, 2020

DreamSurf said:
Yeah I think people in here are downplaying the news a little. This. Is. Massive. And will change the gaming landscape forever. Sony is actually the small fish when it comes to IP and studios now. It happened literally overnight and all it took was for MS to go "fuck it lets drop some cash". Imagine if they do this again? And again... and again.. until there is nothing left.

Bingo. Also its not just about studios but the insane value that is Gamepass too. If Sony keep ignoring MS it's gonna be brutal.

MegaSackman · Sep 21, 2020

The only thing I want Sony to do right now is to start pre-orders in my country, that it's all.

starblue · Sep 21, 2020

MonadL said:
Meanwhile your competition out here buying whole ass publishers

Sony can't afford doing that...but at least they can use their money in smarter ways....

Timed exclusives are a waste in long term. MS is doing things right here, getting a bunch of studios to get full exclusives and make their hardware and services a must.

All companies are doing their moves acquiring studios, not only MS, also Tencent etc....but Sony don't (not at that level...)

I hope I'm wrong and sony soon drops some big news...instead of "console exclusive****" that's underwhelming af

The Ethereal One · Sep 21, 2020

DreamSurf said:
Yeah I think people in here are downplaying the news a little. This. Is. Massive. And will change the gaming landscape forever. Sony is actually the small fish when it comes to IP and studios now. It happened literally overnight and all it took was for MS to go "fuck it lets drop some cash". Imagine if they do this again? And again... and again.. until there is nothing left.

If this continues to happens it will become nearly impossible for a lot of people to act like Microsoft is the fighting underdog up against the big evil, anti-consumer juggernaut that is Sony lol.

Apathy · Sep 21, 2020

s y said:
Jim has a goddamn plan lol

Funnily enough, he just needs some money

Adrifi · Sep 21, 2020

Carnby said:
Don't act like this wasn't sudden news. I had my ps5 pre-ordered and I was ready to go. Now I'm just supposed to switch? No pun intended. Don't be shocked when people aren't happy about this.

It's a product, it's all I'm saying lmao this is not like changing religion or something

Maple · Sep 21, 2020

Also, I'm wondering if today's news will incentivize Sony to start bringing back some beloved IPs.

SOCOM, Syphon Filter, Jak and Daxter, Twisted Metal, etc.

Deusmico · Sep 21, 2020

DreamSurf said:
Yeah I think people in here are downplaying the news a little. This. Is. Massive. And will change the gaming landscape forever. Sony is actually the small fish when it comes to IP and studios now. It happened literally overnight and all it took was for MS to go "fuck it lets drop some cash". Imagine if they do this again? And again... and again.. until there is nothing left.

even if they buy all the 3rd publishers, ps and nintendo will exist. and go from there

still no return of their previous xbox acquisitions and ps will start the early years of the gen dominant....probably be ahead of xbox so much that win the gen before xbox releases a AAA next gen exclusive. they will stuck with thousands of employees that were making multiplatform games now losing money because they wont release to 1/3 of the market when already they paid 7bil

maybe it will be a historic fail lol

Zones · Sep 21, 2020

Loudninja said:
I cant keep up what is pro and anti consumer since it changes each and very day

It's actually quite easy.

If Sony does it, it's anti-consumer. If Microsoft/Nintendo do it, then it's not.

orochi91 · Sep 21, 2020

Realistically, how many more major acquisitions can MS pull off?

Like, should we be concerned about Ubisoft/EA/TT and others being acquired? They're bigger than Bethesda/Zenimax, right?

I didn't list any JP publishers because I doubt MS will breakthrough whatever regulations Japan has in place for foreign takeovers.

TheRealTalker · Sep 21, 2020

awwww the thread slowed 😞

DMVfan123 · Sep 21, 2020

MegaSackman said:
The only thing I want Sony to do right now is to start pre-orders in my country, that it's all.

Everyone arguing and raging meanwhile I'm on the lookout for more pre-orders to start dropping so I can inform my friend who wants one bad

Vic Damone Jr. · Sep 21, 2020

nolifebr said:
The maximum that this purchase will affect at Sony: Now they are forced to talk more about the PS5. I doubt that they will be as quiet as they have been for the past few months.

Theres 7 weeks to launch, they need to be talking every week regardless. 6 weeks really, you're not gonna count the week of release. We still don't know about upgrades to the 1st party titles from last year and this year, breakdown, ui, info, gameplay and impressions to launch games. There's still a lot they need to talk about and they need to get going.

Shazz · Sep 21, 2020

Konami trending on twitter cuz people want sony to buy konami in retaliation and im like lol

Rover_ · Sep 21, 2020

this thread all acting up like Sony does not have the most prestige first party studios of the world, proven by both sales and critics. lmao

the answer will come as soon as the launch: Demons Souls is an classic and a big must play for any gamer.

TheRealTalker · Sep 21, 2020

orochi91 said:
Realistically, how many more major acquisitions can MS pull off?

Like, should we be concerned about Ubisoft/EA/TT and others being acquired?

I didn't list any JP publishers because I doubt MS would clear whatever regulations Japan has in place for foreign takeovers.

There is that recent stuff about Bungie. I can see MS still going ahead even with the price hike.

As for Japanese devs, those old Platnium games rumours way back may actually have depth to them.

shinobi602 · Sep 21, 2020

DreamSurf said:
Will Sony's studio growth be known to us soon? Because it seems like this has been said for almost 3 years now. They only purchased Insomniac who made games for them already.

Really? News to me. I never thought first party studios was a weak point Sony needed to address this gen, unlike Microsoft.

asd202 · Sep 21, 2020

starblue said:
Sony can't afford doing that...but at least they can use their money in smarter ways....

Timed exclusives are a waste in long term. MS is doing things right here, getting a bunch of studios to get full exclusives and make their hardware and services a must.

All companies are doing their moves acquiring studios, not only MS, also Tencent etc....but Sony don't (not at that level...)

I hope I'm wrong and sony soon drops some big news...instead of "console exclusive****" that's underwhelming af

Sony doesn't have that money to spend, they could never had bought Bethesda for $7.5 billion. If MS will be willing to spend Sony won't be able to compete in terms of acquisitions.

Deusmico · Sep 21, 2020

MonadL said:
Meanwhile your competition out here buying whole ass publishers

not with their earnings and size, but from ms money from other divisions.

so the risk is high for successful integration.

gundamkyoukai · Sep 21, 2020

E.T. said:
I appreciate your reply. But I am trying to look at this in terms of a long term game. I am certain that this generation will probably still end up with Sony holding a healthy sales lead and position in the market. But beyond that i am not sure when it becomes a game of who can throw more cash at company aquisitions.

That is what I am trying to get at, long term this could be their strategy and competing with it would be nearly impossible. This generation is going to fine, its the ones after that will become scary when the landscape has so much potential to change with these deals in mind.

Btw, I appreciate everybody's replies. Apologies If I do not reply to each of you individually.

I now learned that Fromsoft is owned by a huge corp. and that them letting Fromsoft go is stupid. So that is out of the equation for sure.

The market to wild to see longer term in some ways.
Like take this gen when Sony now has 6 10 million selling IP and only had 1 on PS3 for certain .
So content is the number one thing and you can never be certain what will happen .

asd202 said:
Sony doesn't have that money to spent, they could never had bought Bethesda for $7.5 billion. If MS will be willing to spend Sony won't be able to compete in terms of acquisitions.

Sony has the money to spend they just can't be picky any more .
Forget AAA only or people you work with for a long time .
Leyon show they were willing to forget the second part of that so do it the same with others ,

EagleClaw · Sep 21, 2020

Shazz said:
Konami trending on twitter cuz people want sony to buy konami in retaliation and im like lol

It seems like people really want to see some pachinko systems from sony... /jk

Rowsdower · Sep 21, 2020

orochi91 said:
Realistically, how many more major acquisitions can MS pull off?

Like, should we be concerned about Ubisoft/EA/TT and others being acquired? They're bigger than Bethesda/Zenimax, right?

I didn't list any JP publishers because I doubt MS will breakthrough whatever regulations Japan has in place for foreign takeovers.

I mean Microsoft has fuck you money, they could buy everyone if everyone was willing to sell.

Oreiller · Sep 21, 2020

BoJack said:
Ngl man, I don't like Jim Ryan. Don't like him at all.

What does that have to do with him?

CrispyGamer · Sep 21, 2020

orochi91 said:
It's legit remarkable that they were able to pull this off.

Opening up a checkbook is remarkable? Especially for a trillion dollar company lol come on man good on them for finally taking gaming seriously i guess

orochi91 · Sep 21, 2020

Rover_ said:
this thread all acting up like Sony does not have the most prestige first party studios of the world, proven by both sales and critics. lmao

the answer will come as soon as the launch: Demons Souls is an classic and a big must play for any gamer.

Folks are more concerned about the future than the present.

If MS can drop massive $$$ at a whim like this, there's nothing to prevent them from starving out PS by acquiring other major publishers.

JuanLatino · Sep 21, 2020

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amstradcpc · Sep 21, 2020

Maple said:
Also, I'm wondering if today's news will incentivize Sony to start bringing back some beloved IPs.

SOCOM, Syphon Filter, Jak and Daxter, Twisted Metal, etc.

Nah, none of the promising rumors get true with nowadays Sony. Jim style is not to give good news.

Samanyolu · Sep 21, 2020

PlayStation Studios |OT14| Nintendo WAS doomed, Sony IS doomed

Modest_Modsoul · Sep 21, 2020

If this move a "threat" to them for fearing Japanese publishers acquisitions by MS, then I want them to take a good long look at their current SIEJA...

New IPs with meh reviews & sales won't cut it.

Asobi team & Astro Bot was not enough.

Mobile games from them was peanut results.

Ape Escape 20th anniversary was just a fucking tweets with pictures; and I doubt Jim Ryan or even Hermen Hulst care/know about it.

We still f****** don't know Toyama working on...

But hey!

Let's throw money on famous JRPG for 6 months to a year instead!

/half s

RedHeat · Sep 21, 2020

orochi91 said:
Folks are more concerned about the future than the present.

Is MS can drop massive $$$ at a whim like this, there's nothing to prevent them from starving out PS by acquiring other major publishers.

"Starving" lmao

There's nothing stopping Sony from pulling a Nintendo and becoming a exclusives platform either

nolifebr · Sep 21, 2020

The Last Wizard said:
Theres 7 weeks to launch, they need to be talking every week regardless. 6 weeks really, you're not gonna count the week of release. We still don't know about upgrades to the 1st party titles from last year and this year, breakdown, ui, info, gameplay and impressions to launch games. There's still a lot they need to talk about and they need to get going.

We are talking about Sony. They can release the console without explaining any on this things.

NLCPRESIDENT · Sep 21, 2020

RisingStar said:
Sony could simply acquire / merge with Kadokawa Corp for their entertainment arm. They have been investing more in Anime. If any big publisher is a possibility for Sony, I still think its Capcom.

Sadly they had their shot and let it slip, I honestly believe things like this is the reason why Jim Ryan is in charge now

N.47H.4N · Sep 21, 2020

Pai Pai Master said:
I figured it was more about FFXVI's timing, seems like its quite far along and Sony wanted that title in their list of Year 1-2 software

yes,but FFXVI timed exclusivity is wasted money when most of their fans will buy a PS anyway,if was a launch game would made more sense to build install base,but looks like to be far from release.

Boke18 said:
IT's not wasted money when it sells consoles and people buy the games.

PS5 will sell with or without FFXVI being timed exclusive,what was the split with FFXV? PS4 80%/20% XOne ?

Sidewinder said:
Kinda agree, but it really depends on how expensive such deals are, buying FF16 exclusivity must be far less expensive for Sony, than MS, because Square loses far less revenue.

Yes,thats for sure.

Turkoop said:
Nintendo hasn't bought any new studios for years, so what?

Nintendo is its own thing, all they need is their main franchises, Sony's main competitor is the Xbox, its consoles and audience are much closer than Nintendo.

TheRealTalker · Sep 21, 2020

shinobi602 said:
Really? News to me. I never thought first party studios was a weak point Sony needed to address this gen, unlike Microsoft.

1st party genres is a weakpoint.

Deleted member 52190 · Sep 21, 2020

starblue said:
Sony can't afford doing that...but at least they can use their money in smarter ways....

Timed exclusives are a waste in long term. MS is doing things right here, getting a bunch of studios to get full exclusives and make their hardware and services a must.

All companies are doing their moves acquiring studios, not only MS, also Tencent etc....but Sony don't (not at that level...)

I hope I'm wrong and sony soon drops some big news...instead of "console exclusive****" that's underwhelming af

Timed exclusives gives you 2 out, a good income of cash and shift the userbase in your favor, they are not useless and they are not a waste of money, it is smart bussiness.

Of course buying the IP as better long terms value, but is more expensive and sometimes not worth it.

In this case, i dont beleive Sony is buying a publisher not because they dont have the money but because i dont think they will focus that much of their money in a single horse.

They will continue to build 3 party partnerships and acquire small studios and grow the WWS. At worse, they will just go 3 party and that is the worst case scenario.

JuanLatino · Sep 21, 2020

Angie22 said:
JuanLatino just pick whatever name for the next OT that you want. This OT is moving too fast and filled with first time posters.

let's see if we get enough votes - otherwise i just pick one myself

metalgear89 · Sep 21, 2020

How much would capcom cost to acquire? Surely not more than bethesda?

EagleClaw · Sep 21, 2020

JuanLatino said:
new poll is up

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VOTE FOR

Let's be honest: |OT13| could have been a lot smoother
(list no.6)

Thiago · Sep 21, 2020

JuanLatino said:
new poll is up

Have your say: OT 14 Name

Voice your opinion on the poll: OT 14 Name

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Let's be honest: |OT13| could have been a lot smoother

This one is perfect for so many reasons lmao

shinobi602 · Sep 21, 2020

TheRealTalker said:
1st party genres is a weakpoint.

Which genres were a weak point that weren't already being handled by third parties?

amstradcpc · Sep 21, 2020

orochi91 said:
Realistically, how many more major acquisitions can MS pull off?

Like, should we be concerned about Ubisoft/EA/TT and others being acquired? They're bigger than Bethesda/Zenimax, right?

I didn't list any JP publishers because I doubt MS will breakthrough whatever regulations Japan has in place for foreign takeovers.

In the west Take 2 and CD project red. If they get GTA is game over for Sony.

Angie · Sep 21, 2020

JuanLatino said:
let's see if we get enough votes - otherwise i just pick one myself

Just pick one. Seems everyone else just wants to talk about studio aquisitions

Rodrigues solitaire · Sep 21, 2020

JuanLatino said:
new poll is up

Have your say: OT 14 Name

Voice your opinion on the poll: OT 14 Name

linkto.run

It feels like

We Are In The Endgame Now

is literally the only title that doesn't highlight some negative aspect of the last week ...

Karlinel · Sep 21, 2020

I thought the Xbox division wasn't THAT profitable, to secure 7,5Bn$...I would guess they won't acquire more at this scale since that'd be almost any potential profit this gen already spent but...

MegaSackman · Sep 21, 2020

JuanLatino said:
let's see if we get enough votes - otherwise i just pick one myself

I don't know how/where to vote. :P

Edit:I just did, forgot to check on threadmarks.

TheRealTalker · Sep 21, 2020

shinobi602 said:
Which genres were a weak point that weren't already being handled by third parties?

that is the problem

short sighted and it will get worse in a decade or more

DeadOblivion78 · Sep 21, 2020

The forum is insufferable now with these acquisition talks.

platocplx · Sep 21, 2020

Snakeeee said:
Timed exclusives gives you 2 out, a good income of cash and shift the userbase in your favor, they are not useless and they are not a waste of money, it is smart bussiness.

Of course buying the IP as better long terms value, but is more expensive and sometimes not worth it.

In this case, i dont beleive Sony is buying a publisher not because they dont have the money but because i dont think they will focus that much of their money in a single horse.

They will continue to build 3 party partnerships and acquire small studios and grow the WWS. At worse, they will just go 3 party and that is the worst case scenario.

Right New IP is even more valuable than even just buying up all the existing IP. Also they dont have to always Buy a whole Studio or IP and can contract them like they did with bloodbourne. Sony Has has strong IP for a while. This is MS finally addressing their Strong IP issue.

TheRealTalker said:
that is the problem

short sighted and it will get worse in a decade

this is a weird take lol

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