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crimmy88

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The only valid issue in the HD2 controversy was the regional matter, imo. Its quite telling that even though that issue hasnt been resolved yet (game has yet to be re-listed in Steam), gamers are celebrating for "winning" and reversing their reviews.

It shows to me how disingenuous it was for gamers to use the regional issue as a leverage to get what they want. Once the inconvenience is gone, gamers are happy again while non-psn region continues to get screwed.
 
RezziHD_

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Wayfaerer said:
I mean, Netflix's content budget for 2024 is $17B and they will spend majority of it on original content, Apple TV+ is less than 5 years old but they have made a good amount of original content, and reportedly are spending around $6-7B on it. And Amazon, we don't really know how much they spend on original content because they lump original content, live sports, licensing and music together when they talk about spending, but as you said, they bought MGM, so clearly they want more content that they own rather than to just license it. I think all three of them are as much a part of Hollywood currently as the old legacy studios.
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I think there's a fine line between 'original content' and making things 'in house' which I believe is what Jqydon was talking about. For example I had a quick look at that Apple TV list, and the very first one on the list 'For All Mankind', is actually made by Sony (alongside TallShip productions) and distributed by Apple. So its original content made for Apple, but not necessarily by them. Honestly TV production and licensing can get messy sometimes, trying to find out who actually makes what and who actually own the rights to certain series.
 
False Witness

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CJohn said:
I needed this to be 2024 since I will become a father in January 2025 and no way I will have time for any of this.
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The first year of your kid's life is by far the easiest. Volunteer to take care of all caregiving duties and feedings and you will have all the time in the world for gaming or whatever else you want to do. Your partner will also thank you for it.

I have a 7, 6, and 4 year old and I would trade for the baby years in an instant, lol.
 
Brot

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Rowsdower said:
So with GoT, to review it, you need to buy and play it. What happens when a game just comes out, and tons of people buy it and then immediately refund it under two hours and leave a negative review? Does Steam look into that or no?
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Why wouldn't people who refunded a game be able to leave a review, be it negative or positive?

Individual reviews not only show the playtime but also if the reviewer refunded the game. The system is pretty transparent in that way.

This is just an example and not a review for Helldivers 2

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Modest_Modsoul

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Nintendo announced their June direct.

Where's the 'distraction' announcement from Helldivers 2's mess...

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Chossen

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Rowsdower said:
So with GoT, to review it, you need to buy and play it. What happens when a game just comes out, and tons of people buy it and then immediately refund it under two hours and leave a negative review? Does Steam look into that or no?
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If you do this (or if you buy the game with a key), your review doesn't count for the global user score that steam shows in the store page
 
Wayfaerer

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RezziHD_ said:
I think there's a fine line between 'original content' and making things 'in house' which I believe is what Jqydon was talking about. For example I had a quick look at that Apple TV list, and the very first one on the list 'For All Mankind', is actually made by Sony (alongside TallShip productions) and distributed by Apple. So its original content made for Apple, but not necessarily by them. Honestly TV production and licensing can get messy sometimes, trying to find out who actually makes what and who actually own the rights to certain series.
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Well legacy studios/networks also accepted productions from other studios. For example, Friends was made by Warner Bros for NBC, How I Met Your Mother was made by Fox for CBS, Modern Family was made by Fox for ABC, House was made by Universal for Fox and so on.

At the end of the day, Apple, Netflix and Amazon are spending billions of dollars on content that they weren't spending 10-15 years ago.
 
Red Kong XIX

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Brot said:
Why wouldn't people who refunded a game be able to leave a review, be it negative or positive?

Individual reviews not only show the playtime but also if the reviewer refunded the game. The system is pretty transparent in that way.

This is just an example and not a review for Helldivers 2

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We know that all people care about are the review score. Nobody will look at the individual reviews themselves.
 
Spacejaws

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Red Kong XIX said:
We know that all people care about are the review score. Nobody will look at the individual reviews themselves.
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Lots of people do. I do. Especially if something I'm interested in is mixed or negative, because I want to see if it's something I care about or not.

Hate for Steam reviews is so weird, it's a brilliant feature and an incentive to not release something so piss poor like Battlefront Classic Collection which has a completely undeserved 65 metacritic on PC and the first critical review gives it a fucking 90/100. I'm sure it also gave From a kick to improve Elden Ring which you would have had zeto inclination of any issues from mainstream press.

Can always be improved, removing peoples reviews who refund, or not letting them count to the greater score I can get behind. I don't agree with the review bombing of Helldivers 2 because I'm sure 90% of those reviews were unaffected by the cangr, but the filtering features to show there is a review bomb going on is great for this sort of thing.
 
Brot

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Red Kong XIX said:
We know that all people care about are the review score. Nobody will look at the individual reviews themselves.
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I'm just saying that there's nothing for Valve/Steam to look into if people refund a game and give a negative review. It's how the system is supposed to work.

It also counters the notion that I've seen crop up a couple of times in review bombing discussions, even before the HD2 fiasco, where supposedly masses of people would buy a game and refund it so they could leave a negative review. But whenever you check the actual reviews, it's not really something that happens.

People should know how the system actually works.
 
Red Kong XIX

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Spacejaws said:
Lots of people do. I do. Especially if something I'm interested in is mixed or negative, because I want to see if it's something I care about or not.

Hate for Steam reviews is so weird, it's a brilliant feature and an incentive to not release something so piss poor like Battlefront Classic Collection which has a completely undeserved 65 metacritic on PC and the first critical review gives it a fucking 90/100.
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That's fine, wasn't talking about individuals like you but about the majority of people. I also didn't hate on Steam reviews, it's a great feature, but no system is perfect.

And a 65 on Metacritic is a very bad score.

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I'm just saying that there's nothing for Valve/Steam to look into if people refund a game and give a negative review. It's how the system is supposed to work.

It also counters the notion that I've seen crop up a couple of times in review bombing discussions, even before the HD2 fiasco, where supposedly masses of people would buy a game and refund it so they could leave a negative review. But whenever you check the actual reviews, it's not really something that happens.

People should know how the system actually works.
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That's where I disagree. People buying the game and immediately refunding it just to leave a review would be exploiting the review system. Valve should probably take measures if they see that happens.
 
Shairi

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Brot said:
I'm just saying that there's nothing for Valve/Steam to look into if people refund a game and give a negative review. It's how the system is supposed to work.

It also counters the notion that I've seen crop up a couple of times in review bombing discussions, even before the HD2 fiasco, where supposedly masses of people would buy a game and refund it so they could leave a negative review. But whenever you check the actual reviews, it's not really something that happens.

People should know how the system actually works.
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I just checked, there are loads of negative reviews with less than a hour play time that were posted during the review boming timeframe.
 

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Sony Group Corp.'s shares slid the most in almost three months after its proposal to buy Paramount Global raised financing concerns.

Macquarie Capital's Damian Thong said in a note to investors. "We do not think buying Paramount makes sense."
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While it's a joint offer, investors are worried about Sony's finances," given the deal size is larger than Sony's cash holdings, said Yugo Tsuboi, chief strategist at Daiwa Securities.
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"Besides the impact of the acquisition on its cash position and debt, questions have risen regarding the CBS channel that comes with Paramount, which foreigners can't own, and given the political climate it seems that the deal will face major scrutiny," said Amir Anvarzadeh, a Singapore-based strategist at Asymmetric Advisors. "Unless they find a buyer for CBS the deal is unlikely to go through."
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Diogo Arez

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Anyone with trouble redeeming ps+ titles this month?
I clicked add to library and the console got stuck on adding to library and they don't appear on my library but I already got the "receipt" for them

Edit: They finally appeared, got scared for a moment
 
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Rowsdower

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Brot said:
Why wouldn't people who refunded a game be able to leave a review, be it negative or positive?

Individual reviews not only show the playtime but also if the reviewer refunded the game. The system is pretty transparent in that way.

This is just an example and not a review for Helldivers 2

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Oh no, that's all well and good. I meant if there was a mass amount of reviews with 0.1 hours played that all only said "fuck Sony" or similar. So not a real negative review if you get what I mean.
 
Ludi_Ludere

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Desodeset said:
Sony is planning to gather 8+ billion dollars from divesting Sony Financials. But yeah, if they go for this deal, honestly i don't see any prospects for bigger investments in Sony Interactive Entertainment.
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I don't think they will try for bigger investments, anything bigger in SIE will probs see MS go over their heads and going down that route is something Sony simply cannot afford to do. MS can and will buy themselves back, they're rocky at the moment but as the ball starts rolling there's a good chance the landscape changes in their favour.

They are probs betting on not requiring physical consoles in the future which would allow them to leapfrog and make Sony's current base irrelevant and all of a sudden in a non-physical world size of offering will matter the most and that will be MS or Tencent lol.
 
Izanagi89

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Super said:
The Last Of Us - Uncharted 4 - The Last Of Us Part 2 in 7 years was insane really.
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Isn't last of us like over 10 years old at this point? Uncharted even more. Does feel like it's been a really long time since we saw something new from ND
 
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Red Kong XIX said:
We know that all people care about are the review score. Nobody will look at the individual reviews themselves.
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I do all the time. I enjoy plenty of games with a mixed rating. When I read reviews I can gauge where the majority of any negativity comes from and whether it is something I care about or not. Sometimes I care, sometimes I don't.

User reviews are incredibly useful.
 

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RezziHD_ said:
This is a little intriguing I think? Apart from the Naughty dog thing, there's a 'untitled sony project' but the developer/publisher/whatever listed next to it is...Just Cause?? Other games that list that same studio are Resident Evil 6 and... Girl Fight?!? Lmao, no idea whats going on with that.
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if you sarch "Just Cause video production" on google you will find a japanese company that claims to work with many companies, including Sony and Capcom.
Will not post the link, just in case

edit: here the youtube channel
 
DontHateTheBacon

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Izanagi89 said:
Isn't last of us like over 10 years old at this point? Uncharted even more. Does feel like it's been a really long time since we saw something new from ND
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10 years old but 2 games old. They are both true but one feels like we've been playing the same thing over and over and over for many entries… the other is a realization of how long game dev takes now lol
 
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pappacone said:
if you sarch "Just Cause video production" on google you will find a japanese company that claims to work with many companies, including Sony and Capcom.
Will not post the link, just in case

edit: here the youtube channel
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Yeah thought it would be something like that. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any sort of order to the list? So it's hard to tell if this is just some cancelled game from long ago (maybe with Japan Studio) but that probably is the case.
 
Izanagi89

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DontHateTheBacon said:
10 years old but 2 games old. They are both true but one feels like we've been playing the same thing over and over and over for many entries… the other is a realization of how long game dev takes now lol
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That is always the thing I try and remember. It's one thing to want new things but new things come with more risk as well as long, long dev cycles. But I'm sure whatever these studios are cooking is gonna be incredible
 
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