Mine too! I'm going to the Pokemon Center opening in London on Friday and I'm going to be so upset if there isn't atleast one piece of merch with Cyndaquil included on it or my lofty goal is a new Cyndaquil Plush to add to my ever growing collection.
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Pokémon Sword and Shield: Gigantamax Pikachu, Meowth, Eevee and Charizard have leaked
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So we're at the point where we're pretending it isn't annoying that only the first 151 Pokemon get special treatment again? I can understand not caring about it, but none of like my top 10 Pokemon come from that gen so I'm a little disappointed personally that none of my favorites are getting any attention at all compared to Charizard's third form. But, y'know, it's popular so it can't be bad.
Pikachu, Charizard, Meowth and Eevee are the Pokémon at the forefront of marketing for Pokémon. They are the mascots. They will be getting love every time and that's fine. I get it. Kids love those 4.
Even in the real world humans drag animals from where they are naturally from and put them in zoos or introduce them into another ecosystem damn the consequences.
Pokemon is literally a world about capturing pokemon, and exploring the globe with your friends.
Also your argument does not justify why apparently only gen 1 pokemon for the most part seem to have evolved differently thanks to the effects of the alola/galar region or why only they seem to get the magic ability for unique z-moves or gigantamax. Nor does it explain why all the gen 1 pokemon in lets go lost the ability to evolve into their gen 2/4 forms.
You can't apply real world logic to pokemon since it's a game first. People can fly around the world on their pokemon but apparently most people are so segregated that even the various pokemon professors don't trade notes on pokemon discovered in their region until a new game comes out :P
People keep bringing up X/Y as part of the problem, but honestly, an X/Y-like distribution wouldn't be so bad at all. A plurality of Megas were from Gen I, but there was still a decent distribution across the other generations (besides Gen V, but I think that's because at the time they had just had three years in the spotlight). Like, I don't think people would mind so much if it wasn't Gen I Pokemon getting these forms now to the near-absolute exclusion of everything else.
Uh, it didn't seem like a natural progression to me for it to go biped, so this makes sense.
Edit: Wait, I always thought they were going to reuse Megas as Gigantamax forms. Guess I was wrong and we are back to square one with Pokémon like Sableye or Medicham :T
Gigantamax Charizard is going to be the final obstacle in beating Leon and becoming League Champion, isn't it?
I don't get the point of these. Some of them have no creativity put into them and are just different just to favor some Pokemon it seems like
So if the world is about capturing pokemon and exploring the globe and the original 150 are more common wouldn't that be a good reason why they are in more locations....?
If Gen 1 are more common that means there is more opportunity for them to evolve differently in the Alola and the Galar region and be experimented with and exposed to z-crystals and mega stones because there are literally MORE OF THEM than any other species from other generations.
I usually don't try to apply real world logic to pokemon but the post I was replying to said more generation 1 pokemon was "breaking their immersion" so I spitballed a solution to help their "immersion."
P.S. I love your avatar. When are we getting a Battle Network Legacy collection? I've waited so long.
It's only in gym battles and multiplayer so you can avoid using it as much as you can
Pokémon reminds me of wrestling these days. You have to wheel out the old favourites to get a big pop. Is Charizard a racist?
Unova apparently has the most Pokemon from its dex confirmed to be in Sword and Shield. It's not really because of amy "Unova love" though, it's just because Unova has the biggest dex of any region.
the gym battle part makes it hard to ignore. can i fight dynagigathingies without doing it myself?
You can logic it all you want, it's still boring and repetitive from a players perspective.
How about giving the love to other gens to?
Less people would complain if they didn't show their blatant bias but we're two months to release and only like what two pokemon we've seen get new forms/variants are from something besides Gen 1 or the current Gen?
But I guess we can't disappoint all those diehard Weezing and Farfetch'd fans. They must vastly outnumber the fans of ever other Gen I guess.
The unova love is gen 5 not getting as fucked as other regions in cut content.
Just for the sake of numbers and only counting the unique pokemon that got megas (so ignoring the fact mewtwo and charizard got two)
In x/y megas were broken down as follows
10/26 gen 1 (38%)
5/26 gen 2 (19%)
8/26 gen 3 (31%)
3/26 gen 4 (12%)
Then with the megas added in oras
13/46 gen 1 (28%) decrease of 10%
6/46 gen 2 (13%) decrease of 6%
20/46 gen 3 (44%) increase of 13%
5/46 gen 4 (11%) decrease of 1%
1/46 gen 5 (2%) increase of 2%
1/46 gen 6 (2%) increase of 2%
Not the worlds greatest distribution, but gen 1 feels like it got an appropriate amount of megas. If anything you probably should take 4-6 megas from gen 3 and give them to gens 5/6 and it'd be an ideal balance. Yes I understand the above doesn't include both forms of charizard or mewtwo (would slightly bump gen 1 up to 31% of all mega forms fwiw)
Heck if anything the fact a gen 3 pokemon got a galar form and a unique evolution shouldn't be surprising since if the mega % is anything to go off of it's the other classic generation most likely to get new forms.
Fair, but then there was so much more, like:
Kanto starters being given to you for no reason
The region not even having their own trio of legendäres but instead falling back on using the legendary birds of all Pokémon again.
A random Mewtu in a cave (with 2! Mega evolutions)
Then there's lesser stuff that wouldn't be bad if those previously mentioned things didn't exist like the first forest having the same layout as the viridian forest or that Snorlax blocking the way.
Those last two in particular would have been pretty neat things by itself, but since the game was often hitting you in the face with Kanto stuff (which, granted, wasn't nearly as bad as seemingly every third NPC in S/M drooling over how great and amazing Kanto is), it lead to the situation that I feel like Kalos being by far the weakest Region out of all Pokémon games. Remove Lumiose City and the region has no defining traits anymore.
Hell, even Unova would still be the region of bridges if you were to remove its central city.
Sure for an older pokemon contrarian like you or me. It doesn't change the fact that Pikachu and Charizard are popular and that's why they keep getting attention. In our bubble we are tired of Gen 1 but not everyone else. For me it's not worth getting upset over when they are just variant forms.
I'm not being contrarian, just having an honest reaction what I see.
Ugh, just why? I understand that they're marketing mascots but they aren't even final evolutions, why not giving them to Persian, Raichu and the other eeveevolutions?
Gen 5's greatness will never be reached ever again. Pinnacle of Pokémon. Best gym leaders, 151 pokes only them pokes to let them shine, great map...good story...ah good times good times
But why would pokemon from the kanto region be more likely to migrate? In video game logic it makes sense because for awhile they were actually the only pokemon to exist. In internal world logic/lore Kanto is just another region that has a gym/league system where pokemon live. If you were born in Hoenn, Shinnoh, Unova, Kalos, Alola, or Galar (or any future regions) what about Kanto would appeal to you over any other region to continue your journey in after finishing the region you were born in? I get why people born in Johto may naturally go across the border to their Kanto neighbor :P
Whatever is revealed today will determine how much doom and gloom discussion we will have to endure leading up to the game's release.
Gear up people :v
Gear up people :v
Are they going to give a Gigantamax form to every single Eeveelution or are people who like that form just going to be forced to keep it in its first stage? Who knows.
Good on both of you. This gen 1 pandering shit deserves to be called out.
There's been less of that gloom in the past weeks though. It kinda stopped with the August trailer, and since then it's just the few same tryhards reminding you of their opinion at every occasion. But it's definitely not as terrible as in June/july
This also, that's not "unova love" or whatever, it's them taking advantage of a big roster of Pokemon. That's a fallacy.
Lol, you gotta be a try hard to not like these games?
dunno about Charizard and Meowth but the Affleck leak did say chungus Pikachu would be in the game
? Gen 1 is the second biggest roster and every time theres a lot of gen 1 pokemon its "pandering", not "taking advantage of a large roster"
You people get upset as a hobby
Okay. Older and more popular pokemon are still going to be more accessible for new players and many fans. They aren't just giving them new forms for no reason. You can think they are repetitive but many may not. Plus it's Charizard again yeah but this form has never been in a game before. Hard to be repetitive when it's a completely new design for Charizard.
In this totally headcanon hypothetical scenario Kanto pokemon are just more plentiful. So there just has always been some Kanto species already in more regions. It's like there being more varieties of dogs/wolves. It has nothing to do with where trainers go next. Using this explanation Koffing wasn't just from Kanto. He's also native to Hoenn near the Volcano and always has been. Referring to him as a "Kanto Pokemon" wouldn't be completely accurate because he's native to several regions near pollution and volcanoes. Copy paste this to the other Kanto pokemon found through the pokemon world.
This is just an idea though if you need SOME sort of explanation to the obvious reasons why Game Freak likes to market the originl 150 more than others.
Also when using returning favorites for regions in the early years Kanto pokemon were some of the only options because they hadn't developed quite the back catalog of pokemon that they have now yet. That's why some Kanto pokemon appear in early regions like Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh.
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