I find the idea that we're doing a tournament with characters we already know, with stronger upgraded teams, substantially more interesting than another set of Elite 4.
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Pokémon Sword and Shield: Spoiler, leaks and datamine thread (Discussion guidelines in OP)
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I mean, it's not like it's impossible to have both. There's a reason why B2W2 is so beloved.
I mean in function is this not the same, just with you refighting gym leaders you've already beat instead of new trainers? Guess we'll have to wait and see to know for sure.
I think a tournament is cool , but if it's just rebattling the gym leaders you already beat its kinda lame.
Lmao that was when ALL of the pokemon existed at the time of those "less than 400" numbers. And even then you could transfer all of your pokemon in games like B/W.
My god guys, you can be fans of the game, but acknowledge the fact that cutting 600 pokemon is a shitty tactic by GF. It IS. A shitty tactic.
Anyway, we still have more Gigantamax forms to find.
The problem is that post-game is something that is decided arbitrarily from the Pokemon League. If it's part of the story, it shouldn't be considered post-game, it's just a matter of semantics and it's absurd.
This is actually the realest opinion. There should be a priority for making the campaign meaty like most rpgs. Im usually kind of done by the end, but hopefully the multiplayer is easier to get into like it sounded.
This is where I'm at
im not like outraged at the amount cut, but I only Expected about 1/3 to get cut so I'm kinda disappointed that it's more Than half
Yeah, it's just a new Pokémon spoiler thread, not gameplay or story one.
It's not arbitrary, the post-game starts when the credits roll
Postgame is a strange concept anyway.
Fact is most people stop playing once they hit credits(if they hit it at all).
Hiding stuff behind that when it could be in the middle of the game, where more people could actually see it makes no sense.
I remember playing Platinum, clearing the league and stopping. Took me like half a decade until i found out there was a whole big part of the region hidden away.
Nothing stops it from being part of the story or maingame, where more people would see it.
Fact is most people stop playing once they hit credits(if they hit it at all).
Hiding stuff behind that when it could be in the middle of the game, where more people could actually see it makes no sense.
I remember playing Platinum, clearing the league and stopping. Took me like half a decade until i found out there was a whole big part of the region hidden away.
But why hide it behind "completion" ?
Nothing stops it from being part of the story or maingame, where more people would see it.
The real answer is have both.
Gen5 did this brilliantly where you actually unlocked the battle facility early on with the battle subway, then gave you a lot more to chew on. B2W2 even moreso. Even Gen 7 somewhat did this with the Battle Royale thing
It is arbitrary that credits appear when the story is not completed. Once the credits have appeared you expect it to be over or at most there is a small part later, as in a Marvel movie.
Spending so much time and effort on something after the credits when you could put it before seems absurd.
We've also known about the cut dex but why not pretend like it just happened and get outraged all over again?
Nothing. But there'd still need to be a harder version of battle facilities for people who have beaten the game. Thus there's really no escaping the concept of a post game for Pokemon.
The world does not stop existing once you become champion. It's not absurd at all.
This is a clown take if I've ever seen one here. The point of post-game isn't to worry about the semantics of where x content is placed on the y axis labelled "story." The whole point is that there's something that gets you back into playing the game. That fact that you can't grasp that is strange given that it seems like you assume games just end when the credits roll.
Also, where is this "most people"? Sounds like you're pulling numbers out of your ass to justify that viewpoint without giving any validity. There's a reason why people have complained about post-game in the series ever since XY, you can't handwave that away as "most people would never play it anyway."
Trying to impose one specific opinion as the truth, silencing the others, not having a conversation while a monologue (because that's neat and convenient) while still displaying self-feeding anger that can't be stopped because all the involved people say the exact same things over and over, maybe also as a way to vent off for life's hardships (life can be very hard, I'm well aware of that).
And I say this as someone who is
- far from a Pokemon fan (only played Platinum and X/Y)
- likes a good chunk of new Pokemon designs
- is disappointed by the small dex and the seemingly meager post-game content
- agrees with several criticism of Game Freak's M.I. for the past few years and believes they should change it
Basically: several criticism against GF is legit, I don't think many people will deny it...just express it in a way that can be constructive (and that might be listened by Game Freak - it's hard, I know) and don't mob everyone who tries to find anything to be happy about in the game / dares to have fun with them. Otherwise, the consequence is that only the angry mobs will keep on posting online, while everyone else will get silenced / lose the will to post about it at all. And no, I don't think people who still enjoy Pokemon games deserve to be (indirectly) deplatformed like alt-right assholes.
EDIT: Also, I just realised that this post is incomplete: unfortunately, I've seen the same happen on the other side, i.e. people who state GF can do no wrong and try to silence any criticism. Maybe way less than the negative side, but it definitely happened and definitely will keep on happening. Of course, that's wrong as well: constructive criticism is healthy, never forget about it.
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Because we didnt know how many, nearly 60% of the dex is cut. Most people felt itd be like 30%.
Did the leaker say how long the game is? Like how is Galar as a region? Id hope it's better than Alola which was terrible.
Honestly it's only because it's leaks otherwise he'd be here and probably have 50% of the posts in this thread. Listen I'm a big fan of his. Serebii.net was a lifeline for any kid who grew up in the 00s playing Pokemon and I appreciate everything Joe has done for the online Pokemon community
But he really turned me off with his tone in the past Pokémon discussion threads. I think he unfairly dismissed many of the criticisms people had about the game and many of them have come true today
Wow so even Bulbasaur and Squirtle didn't make the cut? That's fucked up. You can't separate siblings like that. They come as a set you damn homewreckers.
I mean I don't even hate Charizard, but I can't help but feel a bit resentful when I imagine it being in every future gen to show off the latest gimmick while the rest of the starters remain shoved in a closet at "home".
I mean I don't even hate Charizard, but I can't help but feel a bit resentful when I imagine it being in every future gen to show off the latest gimmick while the rest of the starters remain shoved in a closet at "home".
Are we about to try to redefine what's post game now cuz pokemon can't do it right anymore...
You know they could have both right? I also wanted a regular pokemon league tournament like the anime, but that doesnt mean the Elite 4 and Champion shouldn't exist. There could have been both the gigantimax gyms and the Elite 4 for post game.
I assume they're suggesting content that is locked behind post game could be removed, which I kind of agree with as well.
Sure, have some post game stuff, like how you had Elite 4 rematches, extra story content etc., but a lot of the stuff that makes up a Pokémon games post game has absolutely no reason to not be available during the main story.
You're right, I dont have an early copy so it's not fair for me to judge, but based on the leaks I'l trust my instinct and skip this. What I need to do is find a copy of black/white 2
The argument that most people don't do "X" has never made sense to me. If trophy/achievement percentages have taught me anything, it's that most people only play games for a few hours. That doesn't mean GF should start making Pokemon games 5 hours long or shorter.
This is the next step of fan rationalisation. Just totally bonkers.
I've been pretty up-to-date on rumors and leaks since Affleck and I certainly do not remember knowing this.
How did you know this?
Bad, even though it made sense within the context of the story.
The league was said to be tournament style when the gym quest was reintroduced
I for one LOVE all the new designs and pokemon, but Im gonna have to sit on this one until I hear more about DLC/Gen 4 remakes/A better version of Gen 8. Nearly all of the pokemon I care about are not in the game, purely because Gamefreak wanted to do with less development (and it IS less development when you compare to what they already achieved with Gen 6).
No pokemon should have been cut, ever. Mega's from 40+ pokemon were quite useful and could be differentiated from Gigantamax (which will be cut by Gen 9/10 anyway).
I adore the presentation of this game, but they arent getting a day 1 sale from me, which is a first ever as a fan of the games.
No pokemon should have been cut, ever. Mega's from 40+ pokemon were quite useful and could be differentiated from Gigantamax (which will be cut by Gen 9/10 anyway).
I adore the presentation of this game, but they arent getting a day 1 sale from me, which is a first ever as a fan of the games.
I didn't like it. Was glad they replaced Hala with Molayne in USUM. They should have replaced Olivia too.
Sure, but the priority should be the main game. I might have actually enjoyed that story about Looker the girl and the espurr in XY if it were a side quest during the game and not postgame where im already way overleveled with a full team. Same with the Ultrabeast stuff in Sun and Moon where I just felt like I was doing something that was introduced a long while back but it took place after credits roll.
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