Wait are we supposed to be answering based on whether the game sold worse than other remakes? Or whether it failed to bring in new players? Or whether the formula could be applied to a Gen 4 game? Sorry I'm struggling to keep up.
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Pokemon Let's Go failed its objective. Is there any point in continuing the series?
- Thread starter Personablue
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I loved Pokémon Let's Go Eevee (Pikachu is too mainstream). It's easily the most fun I've had with a Pokémon game since... probably Emerald.
On the other hand, Pokémon Sword/Shield is a "If I don't have anything else to play, then maybe." game for me. Random encounters are back, it's piling yet another layer of systems on top of things, though mercifully it is pruning others this time, and it just makes the game more complex than it needs to be.
But the sticking point that turns Sword/Shield from a must have to a maybe? It doesn't support the Poké Ball Plus. Playing Pokémon using an actual Poké Ball was the greatest, and now it's just being cast aside like the PokéWalkers before it. Had they announced that you could play using the Poké Ball, I'd already have it pre-ordered.
So what was Pokémon Let's Go's purpose for me? It showed that Pokémon can still be fun, even if the newer games have been weighed down by useless and depreciated features. The core game is still rock solid.
I'd be in for Let's Go Johto, and espeically Let's Go Hoenn. But if Sword and Shield is any indication, it'll be a while until I'm excited by a Pokémon game again.
On the other hand, Pokémon Sword/Shield is a "If I don't have anything else to play, then maybe." game for me. Random encounters are back, it's piling yet another layer of systems on top of things, though mercifully it is pruning others this time, and it just makes the game more complex than it needs to be.
But the sticking point that turns Sword/Shield from a must have to a maybe? It doesn't support the Poké Ball Plus. Playing Pokémon using an actual Poké Ball was the greatest, and now it's just being cast aside like the PokéWalkers before it. Had they announced that you could play using the Poké Ball, I'd already have it pre-ordered.
So what was Pokémon Let's Go's purpose for me? It showed that Pokémon can still be fun, even if the newer games have been weighed down by useless and depreciated features. The core game is still rock solid.
I'd be in for Let's Go Johto, and espeically Let's Go Hoenn. But if Sword and Shield is any indication, it'll be a while until I'm excited by a Pokémon game again.
This where I draw the line as well.
Let's Go can go off and be it's own separate simple simon remake series, as long as it doesn't impede the main line series.
I'm fairly certain that Game Freak aren't going to turn down the chance to have three separate series which sell eight figures a go, contrary to what this thread may think.
I do think that next year will be a break year, though, and they could probably use it.
(They aren't, for what it's worth).
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This is a terrible thread with a terrible premise. You aren't taking a holistic view of the situation at all.
1.) It was the first 60 USD dollar Pokemon game
2.) The Pokeball Plus bundle (100USD) had an insane attach rate for the game, which increased the ASRP.
It didn't fail in any way, shape, or form. Stop the nonsense.
1.) It was the first 60 USD dollar Pokemon game
2.) The Pokeball Plus bundle (100USD) had an insane attach rate for the game, which increased the ASRP.
It didn't fail in any way, shape, or form. Stop the nonsense.
The problem is basic remakes were already doing all of this to begin with, which makes the Let's Go series ultimately redundant in the grand scheme of things.
To your last point, having Mainline, Remake, Let's Go is asking for saturation and exhaustion to occur. Expecting people to stay is fool's gold imo, primarily because we've seen this before with the late 1990s' Pokemon hype and how sales cratered when kids wanted to move onto something else. The same thing will happen with people who were temporarily intrigued with Let's Go, only to then move onto something else.
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There's a lot of people in this forum that dislike Let's Go, that's why the split is how it is.
As long as Gen 4 and 5 get "normal" remakes without Let's Go/SwSh limitations I don't care whether there's a subseries or not.
There's both. Unseen Pokémon that show an exclamation point and Pokémon you can walk up to.
Pokémon Let's Go offered such a good base for rebuilding Pokémon as a series into something new, yet familiar. Sword and Shield... isn't that game.
If they didn't have the absurdly horrible and unnecessary control scheme I would have bought it. I didn't mind the other changes. In fact I'll probably also pass on SwSh but because it looks too samey.
Failed? How was that determined??
Failed? How was that determined??
Let's Go performed incredibly well considering the circumstances of launching on $300 hardware that had been out for less than two years. Much better than it deserved, actually.
I highly doubt the Pokémon Company is sad about the sales.
I highly doubt the Pokémon Company is sad about the sales.
What if it didn't sell to established fans but new fans? It's not selling less then, but growing the pokemon base.
Lmao at considering Let's Go something new but not SWSH. I just can't with people sometimes.
I have to be honest and confess that I don't understand the argument here. If you are correct and Let's go will stop selling it is because another game is launching that will sell much more than ORAS did during the gap year. How is that bad?
Further more as Let's go is more different than a regular remake to the main series how can you be certain that it will stop selling?
I saw it as a modest success in terms of filling an off year gap and somewhat capitalising on the nostalgia boom after Go but feel like the idea has fulfilled its purpose and doesn't need to turned into a series.
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GTA VI selling 30M LTD will also turn out a huge profit, but coming off GTA V with 100M... you get the point, your logic is flawed
I'm not sure if failed but it absolutely destroys the point that gen I games on the current market are far more popular than later gens when it's selling on similar levels to ORAS.
Those RB numbers are unreachable and there is no reason for heavy gen I pandering when it can't even have an overwhelming effect in terms of sales.
Those RB numbers are unreachable and there is no reason for heavy gen I pandering when it can't even have an overwhelming effect in terms of sales.
For myself , there are a lot of emotional and good memories with Pokemon Yellow and the first 151 pokemon
And i dun play mobile games that much but when i heard that PokeGo was able to transfer the first 151 pokemon + Meltan to Nintendo Switch
It (Pokego) sorta' forced me to play and i liked it after a while
i casted the vote "No" as to me personally , Pokemon Let's Go Pikachu is the remake for Pokemon Yellow and my love for the original 151 pokemon
P.S Figures/Sales are only for investors , for me it doesn't prove the good sales doesn't mean the game is good for the gamer who purchased it
And i dun play mobile games that much but when i heard that PokeGo was able to transfer the first 151 pokemon + Meltan to Nintendo Switch
It (Pokego) sorta' forced me to play and i liked it after a while
i casted the vote "No" as to me personally , Pokemon Let's Go Pikachu is the remake for Pokemon Yellow and my love for the original 151 pokemon
P.S Figures/Sales are only for investors , for me it doesn't prove the good sales doesn't mean the game is good for the gamer who purchased it
I don't think a new Let's Go will sell even close to LPGE (except maybe Johto) due to the people who hates anything that isn't Gen 1 won't buy it.
The same can be said for introducing them to the main series. Some people will obviously buy them, but the people mentioned above won't.
The same can be said for introducing them to the main series. Some people will obviously buy them, but the people mentioned above won't.
Wasnt the point of Lets Go was to prop up the mobile Go, which continues to rake insane amounts of money?
In this thread OP gets very restrictive at the meaning of success, while also OP and other members pull "facts" out of their asses to establish what failure is.
We have no info, we can't say for sure, so what we can only talk about is sales, which OP simply wants to overlook.
Now, if we want to discuss the games, while I did enjoy Let's Go, it still had plenty of flaws that I hope to see addressed in a sequel:
We have no info, we can't say for sure, so what we can only talk about is sales, which OP simply wants to overlook.
Now, if we want to discuss the games, while I did enjoy Let's Go, it still had plenty of flaws that I hope to see addressed in a sequel:
- Offer the option to use a regular controller on docked mode
- No reason the handheld catching mechanic isn't there for docked mode play
- Bring back wild Pokémon battles
- Bring back held items and abilities (simplify it if you want, but bring them back)
- Don't give the started pokémon perfect stats
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Yes I think the games didn't manage to catch a significant new audience, every Nintendo franchise is selling better than ever on Switch but Let's Go numbers are not that different from past remakes.
Gamefreak is probably going to continue with the series, games with even less pokemon and simpler graphics, guaranteed to sell 10 million at minimum, of course they will continue making them.
Gamefreak is probably going to continue with the series, games with even less pokemon and simpler graphics, guaranteed to sell 10 million at minimum, of course they will continue making them.
its a second remake of the first game. also it sold gangbusters. discontinuing pokemon because of this sounds lol
If Let's Go were to sell much more than past remakes, you'd be looking at a 1 in 2 attach rate. None of those remakes were released to that small an audience.
Series which generally sell much less than Pokémon have been seeing record-breaking sales- there's much less room for Pokémon to grow than that.
All I have to do is read the first part of your edit...if it's NOT a sales failure then it surely will continue as it is doing what was intended by its creators and that is to generate profit.
Fans of stuff have a much different view on things and sometimes don't consider the business of it.
Fans of stuff have a much different view on things and sometimes don't consider the business of it.
Let's Go is probably going to receive another boost when Sword and Shield releases just like older Pokemon games do when the newer generation just released too.
Let's Go doesn't have much reason to exist since subsequent games might end up bringing back things that were cut like abilities and held items. after that, there's no point in having two remake series. either make he next LG game Gen 4-based or kill off the series. the idea that LG is more "casual" is bunk. it's the same pokemon game as we've been playing, just the catching is different and some things are out. the core experience hasn't changed
Not every Nintendo franchise though Mario Kart, Mario party Donkey Kong, Kirby, Yoshi, 2D Mario, Bayonetta all of this have seen better results in other consoles.
Not to mention the number of people who bought it with the Pokeball Plus (myself included). I'm sure the revenue for the title is astronomical.
No company is too good for a game that sells the way Pokemon Let's Go did, especially for the amount of effort put into it.
That doesn't seem to apply to this topic though. Let's Go was designed as a way to get Pokemon Go Players and lapsed fans. GTA VI would be the sequel to one of the biggest games in the world.
For the topic, the game did well in terms of units sold and it's doing it at a higher price point. It is hard to tell if it got any lapsed/Go players into it as I don't think there's any survey data available for that. Based on information we have access to it succeeded. Based on whether information we don't have, new players vs Pokemon diehards, it's a question mark. At worst it sold well to the base and at best it brought in several million new fans for the next mainline game.
The series can provide another route for the series. A pure remake of the games would be possible, but players have already played through faithful remakes of nearly half the series. The Let's Go formula is probably different enough to not lead to fatigue with a cycle of New > Traditional remake > Lets Go > New.
DK is just a port with an increase in price. It hasn't had its chance on Switch.
Even if somehow it gets a new game on Switch i doubt it'll be as succesful as DKC but anyway my point was that this expectation that every game released on Switch has to be the highest point of their fracnhise to be considered a succes is just ridiculous.
I bought every Pokémon game ever except Let's go and a lot of people I know have the same mindset, they were useless and dumb. If they are gonna announce a Let's Go Johto/Hoenn/Whatever, I'm gonna skip it without a second thought.
And the sales are underwhelming.
And the sales are underwhelming.
Right. If you go by the opinions of the people who hate the games, then the games are a huge success. If the hardcore really did shun them as we have been told endlessly since the announcement, that means they sold to millions of "new" buyers.
If the game did not appeal tot he hardcore players than that means many of the nearly 11 million buyers are new or casual players correct? it is currently in-line with the ORAS sales so that would mean the series picked up new players who would have skipped a regular remake or entry. That would be a success especially when combined with the higher price point.
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That was one hell of a ride in the OP.
It didn't fail, and absolutely there's reason to continue making Let's Go style games. A Let's Go version of G/S would probably be my favorite Pokémon game ever.
Most studios would make a follow up to a game that sold 11 million units.
It didn't fail, and absolutely there's reason to continue making Let's Go style games. A Let's Go version of G/S would probably be my favorite Pokémon game ever.
Most studios would make a follow up to a game that sold 11 million units.