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[Politico] China lobbies Congress behind closed doors on TikTok, staffers say
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Uhhhhh
Bruh is the Chinese embassy trolling the Tik Tok people? Wtf lol
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is your accusation that (potentially) Politico made it up or (potentially) the staffers fed Politico false info?
Basically. And the US has gone further than lobbying before when it comes to furthering the fortunes of its home-grown organizations.
Politico stirs shit by playing stuff up but I'm not aware of them just making things up
Okay I have a dumb/uninformed question that I might delete and go look up. But...what was the point of Project Texas if the US is still trying to force a sale? Because if I'm understanding it correctly, TikTok/Us Gov/Texas did this to house American userdata separately from China so that TikTok was in compliance. But if they're saying this is the only way bc China, then it really makes it feel like the real purpose behind Project Texas was to have US stuff silo'ed off and ready to go for when China is forced to sale.
I can easily see them spinning actual Chinese meetings about whatever into being about TikTok and using mythical unnamed sources to make the case.
If it can't be verified, how would we ever know?
People here have blinders on when it comes to TikTok so I have no doubt they're willing to believe that this was the CCP trying to keep their subversion tool or whatever because that's what they want to believe. I give Politico no benefit of the doubt these days. They've had too many ass pulls to take seriously.
If that's your standard then you're painting that vast majority of respected journalistic outfits with the same "fake news" brush you appear to be applying to Politico.
A publication trading on its track record when it comes to unnamed sources isn't a fringe practise. Sometimes you don't name your sources. Replace "sometimes" with "often" for political reporting. It's how the game is played.
Can't say I'm surprised. What I don't understand is how China's government, who blocks American social media apps, and engages in the biggest internet censorship in the world, thinks they can convince anyone to overlook that glaring hypocrisy?
It's mission impossible IMHO.
What a disappointment Xi turned out to be 😢
It's mission impossible IMHO.
What a disappointment Xi turned out to be 😢
Respected journalists rely on their respectability. Politico has spent years shitting that away.
If I had made my post in a PoliEra thread there'd be no pushback because people who have been paying attention have seen them degrade into a clickbait site realtime.
But your accusation isn't that they're being clickbaity. Your accusation is they're making stuff up. That's a different league of severity.
That is not my accusation. Don't make things up yourself. I said I don't know if I believe them because they exist to stir the shit.
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I mean than pretty much everything is fake news since most stories come from 'sources'
the answer is mostly that they were hoping it would stop a forced sale but then the leaks came out that they were just sending data to china when they felt like it anyway and right back to the same place they went lol
An interesting aspect to the story that I haven't seen mentioned elsewhere:
(It's not illegal for foreign governments to engage in lobbying, but in the US you have to specifically be registered under the Foreign Agents Registration Act to do so)
View: https://twitter.com/annalecta/status/1780674193136263299?s=46&t=qOr7gRZvEoxS6ttKynNQTw
(It's not illegal for foreign governments to engage in lobbying, but in the US you have to specifically be registered under the Foreign Agents Registration Act to do so)
View: https://twitter.com/annalecta/status/1780674193136263299?s=46&t=qOr7gRZvEoxS6ttKynNQTw
https://www.theinformation.com/brie...-alleges-data-sharing-with-bytedance-in-china
paywalled, but essentially it alleges tiktok sending user data to china despite what executives have been saying that they do not.
paywalled, but essentially it alleges tiktok sending user data to china despite what executives have been saying that they do not.
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It was always based on trust. If Newsmax made this article no one would be believing it. Politico has spent the last several years turning into an outrage site. They print drama and people eat it up.
Maybe it's true. Maybe it's not. I'll wait on a better source.
replace "accusation" with "aspersion" then. Your aspersion is they're making it up. If it wasn't, you wouldn't say you don't know if you believe them, which is ironically doing the shit stirring you mention.
Thing is I'm not even a habitual reader of Politco so they very well could be guilty of what you're implying for all I know. You mentioned Newsmax and we can point to specific examples of them making shit up. Can we do the same for Politco? Genuine question, as it would be good to know if I do need to disregard a news source.
I'm not going to do that legwork over a post that isn't even controversial to people paying attention. I dropped it with the idea that people reading it also had had their eyes opened to Politico's modus operandi. I guess that's one of the pitfalls of posting about political stories in Etcetera. If you really want to know if you can trust their reporting then start paying attention to the way they frame their articles, the slants they put on them, the number of times they got caught making hay out of nothing.
And I wouldn't be stirring any shit if people could have just let "I don't know if this is real or not" stand on its own instead of defending an outrage monger like Politico.
That's the last I'm going to say on the matter, already several more posts than I ever expected to have to say.
China bans foreign (mostly English and Other Asian's) social media, search engines, mail services, streaming services, video sites, media outlets, map services, gaming servers, wikis, and anything else imaginable. There are exceptions, of course. If it's for international expats or diplomatic employees, there may be dedicated lines that can connect to the oversea. Sites with negligible traffic may be ignored. In exchange for doing business in China, Apple allowed a CCP state-owned company to handle the icloud data of Chinese users. In politically sensitive regions of China, such as some places in Xinjiang, the government uses a white-list system to further prevent users from accessing the outside world.
China's even banned Github for a while. They reversed it after realizing that how stupid it was. A lot of Chinese scholars and students regularly use VPN to connect to arcademy sites outside of China for academic and research purposes.
But somehow 4chan is accesible from China, at least!
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China bans any website (domestic or foreign) that does not follow its rules on content and data handling. For example, ByteDance operates a mainland only service (Douyin) and a foreign service (TikTok), and TikTok is banned in China, because TikTok does not follow China's rules on content. Microsoft operates a China version of Bing. Until 2021, Microsoft operated a China version of LinkedIn. Then Microsoft disabled the social media functions in 2021 because of China's version of GDPR on data and processing localization.
You don't hear about the same rules being applied to domestic companies very often because very few Chinese companies operate websites that a lot of foreigners care about. And of course, a Chinese company that only operates a website in China and fails to follow the rules would no longer be operating a website.
My opinion is still the same. It will remain the same even if it's revealed to be true that China is lobbying like this. I dislike TikTok. A TikTok forced sale is meaningless because data brokers can just sell the data to China anyway. Liberal/Center-Left tech orgs need to write the legislation they want to see and then lobby politicians at multiple levels of government to get it passed. Privacy laws that take data brokers to task, regulations that remove dark patterns from the equation, and so forth.
They have a extra TikTok version for China called Douyin which is isolated from the TikTok we have