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Project Lincoln continue landing body blows on Trump
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Well hope they can actually make a difference, but it's hard to think that people haven't already picked their side yet.
Flag is good too:
I'm still not entirely sure what the point of the Lincoln project is (secede the election to a democrat this year so they can try to salvage the party and do better in 2024?), but I can't deny their ads are excellent. The Conway's home life must be a doozy.
I'm still not entirely sure what the point of the Lincoln project is (secede the election to a democrat this year so they can try to salvage the party and do better in 2024?), but I can't deny their ads are excellent. The Conway's home life must be a doozy.
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I disagree. I thought those commercials were really effective.
The Dems needs to hire some of these people to help with their message to Americans.
All the ads have to do is split a few percentage of Republican away from the president and races that are tight -- Ohio, Iowa, Georgia, Florida, North Carolina, etc -- if half of those can split for Biden by a point or two, then Trump loses, and if the other states that are looking good... Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvana, Wisconsin, then it becomes an insurmountable blowout.
Another group, Republican Voters Against Trump started launching a handful of similar ads, as well. Some of them have been fire.
One other benefit of these is what the Daily Beast reported today. The Trump campaign just made a $400,000 ad buy in Washington DC. Washington DC has 3 electoral college votes. Nearby Virginia and Maryland are going to be easily carried by Biden. DC itself is going to vote like 90% or more for Biden. The ad buy makes no sense .....
except...
It's a counter to the few thousand dollars that Lincoln Project spent running ads in one zip code, 20006, which has a tiny number of permanent residents.... But one particular resident, 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Lincoln Project ran that "Mourning in America" ad at 10PM in zip code 20006, one one station, Fox News, during the HAnnity and Carlson hours. One American saw it, Donald Trump, and immediately took to twitter to rage tweet about it and as soon as he did, the video got tens of millions of views on YouTube.
SO now, Brad Parscale and Jared Kushner are spending half a mil running Trump ads in DC just so that Donald Trump thinks they're countering Lincoln project ads. It's so hilarious. There's nothing tactical behind it.
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Thanks to Eoin for correcting me about EC votes and Biden's polling in DC! My post originally said 0 EC votes and a 60% cakewalk for Biden. DC has 3 EC votes and Democrats typically win with close to 90% of DC votes.
Another group, Republican Voters Against Trump started launching a handful of similar ads, as well. Some of them have been fire.
One other benefit of these is what the Daily Beast reported today. The Trump campaign just made a $400,000 ad buy in Washington DC. Washington DC has 3 electoral college votes. Nearby Virginia and Maryland are going to be easily carried by Biden. DC itself is going to vote like 90% or more for Biden. The ad buy makes no sense .....
except...
It's a counter to the few thousand dollars that Lincoln Project spent running ads in one zip code, 20006, which has a tiny number of permanent residents.... But one particular resident, 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Lincoln Project ran that "Mourning in America" ad at 10PM in zip code 20006, one one station, Fox News, during the HAnnity and Carlson hours. One American saw it, Donald Trump, and immediately took to twitter to rage tweet about it and as soon as he did, the video got tens of millions of views on YouTube.
SO now, Brad Parscale and Jared Kushner are spending half a mil running Trump ads in DC just so that Donald Trump thinks they're countering Lincoln project ads. It's so hilarious. There's nothing tactical behind it.
Trump Camp Runs Ads on D.C. Cable to Ease the Boss’ Anxieties and Buck Up Congressional GOPers
The president has been worried about his standing electorally. So his team gave him some content to watch on his favorite cable networks.
www.thedailybeast.com
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Thanks to Eoin for correcting me about EC votes and Biden's polling in DC! My post originally said 0 EC votes and a 60% cakewalk for Biden. DC has 3 EC votes and Democrats typically win with close to 90% of DC votes.
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It may sound crazy, but there are still plenty of swing voters out there. I think these ads will be really effective for this group, especially the Mattis ad among pro military types.
Lincoln Project consists of former and pissed-off current Republicans. This kind of "cheese" is what you need to get people like Republicans on board. The emotional response from ads like this is what helps stir them to action. Fox News has known this since its inception.
Fight fire with fire.
Oh I agree in that they'll be effective, but I think the movie trailer music and dun-dun sfx (especially in the Steps one) were a bit cornball. Again, it'll be effective and I'm happy to have these commercials out there - just not my personal taste.
this is amazing.All the ads have to do is split a few percentage of Republican away from the president and races that are tight -- Ohio, Iowa, Georgia, Florida, North Carolina, etc -- if half of those can split for Biden by a point or two, then Trump loses, and if the other states that are looking good... Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvana, Wisconsin, then it becomes an insurmountable blowout.
Another group, Republican Voters Against Trump started launching a handful of similar ads, as well. Some of them have been fire.
One other benefit of these is what the Daily Beast reported today. The Trump campaign just made a $400,000 ad buy in Washington DC. Washington DC does not have any electoral college votes. Nearby Virginia and Maryland are going to be easily carried by Biden. DC itself is going to vote like 60% or more for Biden. The ad buy makes no sense .....
except...
It's a counter to the few thousand dollars that Lincoln Project spent running ads in one zip code, 20006, which has a tiny number of permanent residents.... But one particular resident, 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Lincoln Project ran that "Mourning in America" ad at 10PM in zip code 20006, one one station, Fox News, during the HAnnity and Carlson hours. One American saw it, Donald Trump, and immediately took to twitter to rage tweet about it and as soon as he did, the video got tens of millions of views on YouTube.
SO now, Brad Parscale and Jared Kushner are spending half a mil running Trump ads in DC just so that Donald Trump thinks they're countering Lincoln project ads. It's so hilarious. There's nothing tactical behind it.
Trump Camp Runs Ads on D.C. Cable to Ease the Boss’ Anxieties and Buck Up Congressional GOPers
The president has been worried about his standing electorally. So his team gave him some content to watch on his favorite cable networks.www.thedailybeast.com
This is the kind of targeted advertising I can get behind.It's a counter to the few thousand dollars that Lincoln Project spent running ads in one zip code, 20006, which has a tiny number of permanent residents.... But one particular resident, 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Lincoln Project ran that "Mourning in America" ad at 10PM in zip code 20006, one one station, Fox News, during the HAnnity and Carlson hours. One American saw it, Donald Trump, and immediately took to twitter to rage tweet about it and as soon as he did, the video got tens of millions of views on YouTube.
SO now, Brad Parscale and Jared Kushner are spending half a mil running Trump ads in DC just so that Donald Trump thinks they're countering Lincoln project ads. It's so hilarious. There's nothing tactical behind it.
Trump Camp Runs Ads on D.C. Cable to Ease the Boss’ Anxieties and Buck Up Congressional GOPers
The president has been worried about his standing electorally. So his team gave him some content to watch on his favorite cable networks.www.thedailybeast.com
I know. Thats why I said the Dems need to hire these people to help get their messaging across. In theory heath care for all and affordable education are the easiest things to sell and yet Dems are not that great at explaining or selling it to the masses.
Politics is inherently cornball. For me I thought they were really well done.
I love this so much.All the ads have to do is split a few percentage of Republican away from the president and races that are tight -- Ohio, Iowa, Georgia, Florida, North Carolina, etc -- if half of those can split for Biden by a point or two, then Trump loses, and if the other states that are looking good... Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvana, Wisconsin, then it becomes an insurmountable blowout.
Another group, Republican Voters Against Trump started launching a handful of similar ads, as well. Some of them have been fire.
One other benefit of these is what the Daily Beast reported today. The Trump campaign just made a $400,000 ad buy in Washington DC. Washington DC does not have any electoral college votes. Nearby Virginia and Maryland are going to be easily carried by Biden. DC itself is going to vote like 60% or more for Biden. The ad buy makes no sense .....
except...
It's a counter to the few thousand dollars that Lincoln Project spent running ads in one zip code, 20006, which has a tiny number of permanent residents.... But one particular resident, 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Lincoln Project ran that "Mourning in America" ad at 10PM in zip code 20006, one one station, Fox News, during the HAnnity and Carlson hours. One American saw it, Donald Trump, and immediately took to twitter to rage tweet about it and as soon as he did, the video got tens of millions of views on YouTube.
SO now, Brad Parscale and Jared Kushner are spending half a mil running Trump ads in DC just so that Donald Trump thinks they're countering Lincoln project ads. It's so hilarious. There's nothing tactical behind it.
Trump Camp Runs Ads on D.C. Cable to Ease the Boss’ Anxieties and Buck Up Congressional GOPers
The president has been worried about his standing electorally. So his team gave him some content to watch on his favorite cable networks.www.thedailybeast.com
Rick Wilson has been masterfully trolling Trump for 4 years now. This looks like his handiwork.
I like this one.
They're definitely thinking to 2024. They believe Trump's is a losing strategy so they are doing what they can to salvage the GOP name. They obviously also believe Trump is a true threat to our democracy as well or they would t even be doing that.
Now this is 4D chess I can get behind lmaoAll the ads have to do is split a few percentage of Republican away from the president and races that are tight -- Ohio, Iowa, Georgia, Florida, North Carolina, etc -- if half of those can split for Biden by a point or two, then Trump loses, and if the other states that are looking good... Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvana, Wisconsin, then it becomes an insurmountable blowout.
Another group, Republican Voters Against Trump started launching a handful of similar ads, as well. Some of them have been fire.
One other benefit of these is what the Daily Beast reported today. The Trump campaign just made a $400,000 ad buy in Washington DC. Washington DC does not have any electoral college votes. Nearby Virginia and Maryland are going to be easily carried by Biden. DC itself is going to vote like 60% or more for Biden. The ad buy makes no sense .....
except...
It's a counter to the few thousand dollars that Lincoln Project spent running ads in one zip code, 20006, which has a tiny number of permanent residents.... But one particular resident, 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Lincoln Project ran that "Mourning in America" ad at 10PM in zip code 20006, one one station, Fox News, during the HAnnity and Carlson hours. One American saw it, Donald Trump, and immediately took to twitter to rage tweet about it and as soon as he did, the video got tens of millions of views on YouTube.
SO now, Brad Parscale and Jared Kushner are spending half a mil running Trump ads in DC just so that Donald Trump thinks they're countering Lincoln project ads. It's so hilarious. There's nothing tactical behind it.
Trump Camp Runs Ads on D.C. Cable to Ease the Boss’ Anxieties and Buck Up Congressional GOPers
The president has been worried about his standing electorally. So his team gave him some content to watch on his favorite cable networks.www.thedailybeast.com
Agreed. Politics is cornball and Republicans do work by giving their people the cheesiest meatiest juiciest shit they can find. Dems need to start doing this kind of shit too.
DC has 3 electoral college votes.
Also the only way that the Biden vote in DC would be as low as 60% would be if his campaign imploded nationally, leaving him only winning in DC. In any kind of normal circumstance, it's going to be >90% Biden.
It's hard to do effective ads like these that promote issues, as opposed to tear down issues and opponents. Republicans have long run super effective ads against something like Obamacare, because they can make the message into a boogeyman, and it's really hard to reach moderate voters to convince them to adopt something new using the same tactic.
Republicans have been advertising effectively to boomers, gen X, and moderate suburban Americans for decades. Democrats have done it effectively in the past, but it's always been from that "safe, be weary of the outsider" perspective, like Lyndon Johnson's anti-Goldwater ad with the nuclear bomb going off, asking... "Do you want *this guy* to have his finger on the button?"
It's easy to make ads warning you incrementalists against something. It's difficult to make an ad convincing incrementalists to take a step into the unknown. These ads work because they're using Republican advertising strategies over the last 10, 20 years, to try to attract incrementalists. It also helps that Trump is a clear and present danger to the constitution, that many moderates have been shaking their heads over for the last four years.
Republicans have been advertising effectively to boomers, gen X, and moderate suburban Americans for decades. Democrats have done it effectively in the past, but it's always been from that "safe, be weary of the outsider" perspective, like Lyndon Johnson's anti-Goldwater ad with the nuclear bomb going off, asking... "Do you want *this guy* to have his finger on the button?"
It's easy to make ads warning you incrementalists against something. It's difficult to make an ad convincing incrementalists to take a step into the unknown. These ads work because they're using Republican advertising strategies over the last 10, 20 years, to try to attract incrementalists. It also helps that Trump is a clear and present danger to the constitution, that many moderates have been shaking their heads over for the last four years.
All the ads have to do is split a few percentage of Republican away from the president and races that are tight -- Ohio, Iowa, Georgia, Florida, North Carolina, etc -- if half of those can split for Biden by a point or two, then Trump loses, and if the other states that are looking good... Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvana, Wisconsin, then it becomes an insurmountable blowout.
Another group, Republican Voters Against Trump started launching a handful of similar ads, as well. Some of them have been fire.
One other benefit of these is what the Daily Beast reported today. The Trump campaign just made a $400,000 ad buy in Washington DC. Washington DC does not have any electoral college votes. Nearby Virginia and Maryland are going to be easily carried by Biden. DC itself is going to vote like 60% or more for Biden. The ad buy makes no sense .....
except...
It's a counter to the few thousand dollars that Lincoln Project spent running ads in one zip code, 20006, which has a tiny number of permanent residents.... But one particular resident, 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Lincoln Project ran that "Mourning in America" ad at 10PM in zip code 20006, one one station, Fox News, during the HAnnity and Carlson hours. One American saw it, Donald Trump, and immediately took to twitter to rage tweet about it and as soon as he did, the video got tens of millions of views on YouTube.
SO now, Brad Parscale and Jared Kushner are spending half a mil running Trump ads in DC just so that Donald Trump thinks they're countering Lincoln project ads. It's so hilarious. There's nothing tactical behind it.
Trump Camp Runs Ads on D.C. Cable to Ease the Boss’ Anxieties and Buck Up Congressional GOPers
The president has been worried about his standing electorally. So his team gave him some content to watch on his favorite cable networks.www.thedailybeast.com
That is absolutely grandmaster level trolling and I approve.
Oh whoops, my bad. I thought it was a landslide for Democrats but then Googled it to check and thought I saw some 60% number for 2016. My overall point still stands, the ad buy isn't to try to convince anybody to vote for Donald Trump, it's exclusively to ease Donald Trump's mind.
Never Trump Republicans aren't your friends.
That said, I have no problems watching them fight each other while we sit back and gain from it.
The ads are good.
That said, I have no problems watching them fight each other while we sit back and gain from it.
The ads are good.
Pretty much. They'd rather lose in 2020 and try to salvage something for the future.
That being said, I don't know how much they can salvage even if they tried.
And yeah, people are right. The NeverTrumpers who make up the Lincoln Project, the Bulwark, Republican Voters Against Trump, and so on, are not like... pursuing progressive policy, allies in the cause, or something. They see Trump as an existential threat to America and they're desperately trying to preserve the Republican party, which they (IMO, correctly) think will not exist as a competitive party if Trump gets another term OR the landscape will be so inexorably changed that the concept of "two healthy political parties" might be anathema to American politics in another 4 years. When the NeverTrumpers broke off from the GOP zeitgeist in 2016, prior to the election, they did so as a warning: Nominate this guy and there might not be a GOP left, you might get some pyrric victories -- a tax cut, judges -- but the long term damage will be worse. They might be naive about this point (if Trump gets 4 more years, I'm not sure what America looks like in 2024 to the point where having discrete political parties even matters for a generation), but I think they're right about Trump's threat to the constitution.
Oh yeah, no doubt that those ads are purely to shut Trump up.
They're also as good as official confirmation that Trump's own campaign team believes Trump to be such an imbecile that spending nearly half a million dollars on a Potemkin ad campaign is easier than explaining ad targeting (a concept a young child would grasp pretty quickly) to Trump.
All the ads have to do is split a few percentage of Republican away from the president and races that are tight -- Ohio, Iowa, Georgia, Florida, North Carolina, etc -- if half of those can split for Biden by a point or two, then Trump loses, and if the other states that are looking good... Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvana, Wisconsin, then it becomes an insurmountable blowout.
Another group, Republican Voters Against Trump started launching a handful of similar ads, as well. Some of them have been fire.
One other benefit of these is what the Daily Beast reported today. The Trump campaign just made a $400,000 ad buy in Washington DC. Washington DC has 3 electoral college votes. Nearby Virginia and Maryland are going to be easily carried by Biden. DC itself is going to vote like 90% or more for Biden. The ad buy makes no sense .....
except...
It's a counter to the few thousand dollars that Lincoln Project spent running ads in one zip code, 20006, which has a tiny number of permanent residents.... But one particular resident, 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Lincoln Project ran that "Mourning in America" ad at 10PM in zip code 20006, one one station, Fox News, during the HAnnity and Carlson hours. One American saw it, Donald Trump, and immediately took to twitter to rage tweet about it and as soon as he did, the video got tens of millions of views on YouTube.
SO now, Brad Parscale and Jared Kushner are spending half a mil running Trump ads in DC just so that Donald Trump thinks they're countering Lincoln project ads. It's so hilarious. There's nothing tactical behind it.
Trump Camp Runs Ads on D.C. Cable to Ease the Boss’ Anxieties and Buck Up Congressional GOPers
The president has been worried about his standing electorally. So his team gave him some content to watch on his favorite cable networks.www.thedailybeast.com
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Thanks to Eoin for correcting me about EC votes and Biden's polling in DC! My post originally said 0 EC votes and a 60% cakewalk for Biden. DC has 3 EC votes and Democrats typically win with close to 90% of DC votes.
That's hilarious and paid off already.
You'd be surprised.
Also, I should take this moment to say that you never know which straw breaks the camel's back. Don't give up on people.
I'm walking proof of that. Raised a devout Muslim-fearing, gay-bashing, Bible-thumping Republican who was taught by parents, school, radio, and news that Obama was the devil.
I went outside my bubble, got exposed to other perspectives, and I'm never going back.
That same family who raised me has grown from voting for "God's man" Trump to viewing him as an idiot but necessary evil to being ashamed of him to telling me they plan to abstain from voting this year (they aren't quite at the "vote liberal" stage, but NOT voting is still insane coming from them).
There are people who saw Trump teargas peaceful protesters at a church who felt it in their gut and soul, people who supported him. There are supporters of his who voted for him last time because he was the "lesser evil" compared to Hillary who have now spent 3 1/2 years watching him separate families, lock up children, botch a pandemic, guide us into a recession, and lose utter control of the nation's security as protests swell.
DO NOT GIVE UP. Confront bigotry and lies. You won't win over 100% of Trump voters, but even 5% being swayed makes the whole difference.
Again, I'm proof that even the most red Republican can go blue.
We'll hear a lot of this from the GOP in the coming months. Trying to squeeze out some more votes. Then, come Nove
Yep, I was much the same as you. Keep plugging away and people will start to see the truth about their party and beliefs.
Love what George Conway and the Lincoln Project are doing. I donated. Wish Bloomberg would keep doing ads like he was doing, too.
Most people have. Much more so this year than in the past. But there is a frustratingly high number of people who somehow remain undecided (and generally pride themselves on it because they think it makes them sound smart).
All the ads have to do is split a few percentage of Republican away from the president and races that are tight -- Ohio, Iowa, Georgia, Florida, North Carolina, etc -- if half of those can split for Biden by a point or two, then Trump loses, and if the other states that are looking good... Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvana, Wisconsin, then it becomes an insurmountable blowout.
Another group, Republican Voters Against Trump started launching a handful of similar ads, as well. Some of them have been fire.
One other benefit of these is what the Daily Beast reported today. The Trump campaign just made a $400,000 ad buy in Washington DC. Washington DC has 3 electoral college votes. Nearby Virginia and Maryland are going to be easily carried by Biden. DC itself is going to vote like 90% or more for Biden. The ad buy makes no sense .....
except...
It's a counter to the few thousand dollars that Lincoln Project spent running ads in one zip code, 20006, which has a tiny number of permanent residents.... But one particular resident, 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Lincoln Project ran that "Mourning in America" ad at 10PM in zip code 20006, one one station, Fox News, during the HAnnity and Carlson hours. One American saw it, Donald Trump, and immediately took to twitter to rage tweet about it and as soon as he did, the video got tens of millions of views on YouTube.
SO now, Brad Parscale and Jared Kushner are spending half a mil running Trump ads in DC just so that Donald Trump thinks they're countering Lincoln project ads. It's so hilarious. There's nothing tactical behind it.
Trump Camp Runs Ads on D.C. Cable to Ease the Boss’ Anxieties and Buck Up Congressional GOPers
The president has been worried about his standing electorally. So his team gave him some content to watch on his favorite cable networks.www.thedailybeast.com
*edit*
Thanks to Eoin for correcting me about EC votes and Biden's polling in DC! My post originally said 0 EC votes and a 60% cakewalk for Biden. DC has 3 EC votes and Democrats typically win with close to 90% of DC votes.
Oh man, I need more of this shit
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