Ok thanks, so it might be possible
Let's see if Sony would do PS3 BC or rather capitalize on PS Now for PS3 games
PSN generated more revenue than Nintendo's total revenue and Microsoft's whole gaming division revenue for 2018
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Ok thanks, so it might be possible
Let's see if Sony would do PS3 BC or rather capitalize on PS Now for PS3 games
Yeah, the xbox userbase is still bigger. Although hardware is not a big portion of revenue, Microsoft's average hardware selling price is, I imagine, substantially higher also at the moment (I'm guessing X is dominant in XB1 sales now, although admittedly that is a guess).
Nintendo has 3DS + Switch install bases, Switch is selling like hotcakes, humongous first party software sales, S/NES classic console sales, and a very strong mobile presence. That's why I'm surprised. And all the merchandising and licensing revenue too.
Anecdotal evidence is still evidence.
If every single Facebook post about PS+ games has hundreds of people stating they do not download PS+ games because they suck, then you can reasonably assume there are thousands more NOT posting on Facebook that they don't download PS+ games.
Just because someone hasn't taken a surveymonkey poll doesn't mean it's not relevant.
The result of a very strong worldwide brand.
They have worked hard over the years getting their brand in countries with low/very low gaming adoption. Years later, they are getting rewarded for it.
It would be incredibly good for gaming as a whole if MS and Nintendo could reach a similar slate worldwide.
They have worked hard over the years getting their brand in countries with low/very low gaming adoption. Years later, they are getting rewarded for it.
It would be incredibly good for gaming as a whole if MS and Nintendo could reach a similar slate worldwide.
That's incredible. 94 million units sold and big games like God of War doing so well in 2018 probably contributed a lot to PSN game sales. Their flash sales are pretty good too.
Hell, even if you never get a Vita, who's to say Sony won't surprise everyone by announcing that digital Vita games will work on PS5? Extremely unlikely I know, but if it happened...
Doubt that's the case when that isn't happening in the States in Xbox One strongest territory. That's according to our very own MatPiscatella.
Over 94.2 million and when The Last of Us 2 hits, it will be over 100 million. Crazy if you think about it ;)
No chance, I would be surprised if it's above 35% for X1. Does anyone have numbers? Light the Zhuge signal!!!
3DS is doing nothing compared to the amount of $$$ MS is getting through all those games (BO4, FC5, AC:O, RDR2,....) sold on their plattform in 2018.
I'm guessing here, but MS is making roughly a third of their revenue through Gold, Game Pass, storefront (music, movies, etc.) alone.
Oh, my bad.
Well, according to ZhugeEx, for Sony we have (Q3):
Full year:
No real idea about Nintendo or Microsoft, sorry.
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guess it goes to show just how useful locking multiplayer behind a paywall is. even nintendo saw very noticeable growth year over year even if they can't compete against sony's userbase.
it would be neat if sony could invest that money into ps now and start integrating it into ps plus, or make it part of ps superplus or something.
it would be neat if sony could invest that money into ps now and start integrating it into ps plus, or make it part of ps superplus or something.
They need to have a competent service first and not charge money for the absolute bare minimum. After seeing how well PSN does for Sony they must be kicking themselves over their very poor efforts.
I remember various forums saying it was the end of consoles and the need to have a box under the TV and also how nobody wanted their consoles online. How times change... eh
Doubt they are kicking themselves when NSO is already at 8 million subs a few months after launch and they are seeing big growth in digital revenue all across the board.
NSO had a very strong start in terms of numbers - obviously this says nothing of the quality of the service
April-Dec 2018
Sony
Revenue : ¥1812.8bn / $16.26B
Operating Profit : ¥247.2bn / $2.23B
Nintendo
Revenue : ¥997.3bn / $9.17B
Operating Profit : ¥220bn / $2.02B
We'll never know Operating Profit for Gaming for MS
Of course you're going to have a lot of room to grow when your service is worse than even your previous offerings. Nintendo isn't allowed to get a pass after so many years of not getting it. The fact that they still use freaking friend codes and there isn't a basic messaging system for users in the console says as much, they're behind what others (not only Sony and MS) were doing more than 10 years ago.
Going by how long it took them to implement name changes, and how half assed it is, you'll be waiting a long ass time.
nintendo's really had online systems in games since... 2005 or so? the ds let you play animal crossing and mario kart ds through online multiplayer. you could even use the ds's built-in microphone for voice chat.
then they were the first to offer legacy titles through a digital platform on the wii.
all of it got rebooted for 3ds, and then again for switch (basically killing off vc so they could do mini consoles and their new online service). they go from friend codes to accounts and then regress online communication to what is the akin of picking up a telephone and talking with your friends while you play games against them online. ds had built-in voice chat on games.
they do some positive stuff - including nes titles like a limited gaming netflix as part of the online service is unique to them. their idea of miiverse was neat and generally well-implemented. but it just seems like there's a constant string of managers behind the scenes getting promoted into positions and then starting from scratch. i really don't get them. for a company that's been in the online space for 12-13 years, they sure don't act like it.
I dont play games online at all and I do the same thing you do. With just 1-3 games a year worth the play through and the + discounts on top of normal sales it's still a good value.
I think the last time I played online was maybe TLoU Remastered is Uncharted 4 for a few hours. Sometimes I'm Diablo 3 if I accidentally do an open game.
This is why Sony doesn't want crossplay with other consoles.
revenue is not profit
They may be doing ok but launching such a poor service in 2018 in comparison to the competition was a poor strategy and is likely to have a knock on effect - they had the potential to sell the service to the masses of Switch users but the quality of it is so poor. I do hope they look at PSN and get back to the drawing board but I doubt they will.
Wondering where Sony sees their growth chances. I'd say they are in mobile, cloud and PC gaming. But maybe they still have a long time to go to hit their 'console gaming ceiling'
I know Microsoft consoles haven't been as popular in Japan and Europe ( I think) but is this true for Nintendo as well?
I thought Nintendo was fairly popular worldwide. Given that its been around from the NES to now.
Huh, that's closer than I would've expected based on the revenue difference. Thanks for the data!
They seem to be focusing on growing the PlayStation brand in the Middle East and South Asia at the moment as well as growing PSNow.
I guess you can say, it all went according to their plan (keikaku) ;p
But they are selling it to masses of Switch users - 8 million of them or 25% of the user base. Not sure why you think thats a bad number when its not
Yes the service leaves a lot to be desired and hopefully they can see now that more work needs to go into it because it is a potential huge revenue stream for them to cultivate and grow
Nintendo rely a lot on its first-party contents, so they earn more for each product sold
On the contrary, Sony rely a lot on third-party content (games, dlc, add-on) and earn less profits (while having a lot more revenues due to third-party content sold and bigger user base though)
That is true. I was just saying they could be even stronger in some of those even smaller markets where it is basically just PS.
Basically, if all 3 had outreach practically everywhere.
I think this is what people forget in the speculation of next gen threads/Microsoft going to win next gen articles. Gaming is Sony now. Not tvs or other consumer electronics. The PlayStation brand is such a pillar of what keeps the doors at Sony open that they know it needs to succeed. They are going to do everything in their power to not fuck it up. That means games, partnerships with third parties, making a box that people want to buy and they market in some way that beats their competition.
People need to do exchange rates more accurately.
Sony's G&NS division did not make $20.72bn in CY2018.
It was more like$20.1bn $2.35bn
Sony's G&NS division did not make $20.72bn in CY2018.
It was more like
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Which markets is it just PS because I was under the impression that Nintendo had a worldwide install base.
Nintendo have been pretty hit or miss in Europe. The Switch will probably be a massive hit though, doing amazing in France and the UK. They dominant Japan, but I don't think they do amazing in the rest of Asia, could be wrong though.
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