Just HAD to make it into a sex thing didn't you /sIt's kind of like sex. You take a stick and put it in a hole that fits it.
Just HAD to make it into a sex thing didn't you /sIt's kind of like sex. You take a stick and put it in a hole that fits it.
I am right. If anything goes wrong with LEGO you just dismantle and rebuild. It's pretty much stress-free, even for someone who has never used LEGO before. It's a toy to be played with; you can forgo that instruction manual and build whatever you want, carefree. The same can't be said for building a PC, which needs more planning and the handling of delicate and expensive components when in the process of building the thing and because of those factors, might be very stressful for someone who has never built one before.You are right (/j). Lego always has a big instruction manual...
The lego analogy is a lot to do with people posturing how easy it is for THEM, I think.I am right. If anything goes wrong with LEGO you just dismantle and rebuild. It's pretty much stress-free, even for someone who has never used LEGO before. It's a toy to be played with; you can forgo that instruction manual and build whatever you want, carefree. The same can't be said for building a PC, which needs more planning and the handling of delicate and expensive components when in the process of building the thing and because of those factors, might be very stressful for someone who has never built one before.
I know people like to emphasise that anyone can do, which they can, but you could do it in a less misleading fashion I think!
Yeah and that seems to be pretty common in a lot of things, sadly.The lego analogy is a lot to do with people posturing how easy it is for THEM, I think.
I am right. If anything goes wrong with LEGO you just dismantle and rebuild. It's pretty much stress-free, even for someone who has never used LEGO before. It's a toy to be played with; you can forgo that instruction manual and build whatever you want, carefree. The same can't be said for building a PC, which needs more planning and the handling of delicate and expensive components when in the process of building the thing and because of those factors, might be very stressful for someone who has never built one before.
I know people like to emphasise that anyone can do, which they can, but you could do it in a less misleading fashion I think!
I watched a 20min youtube video and replicated what he did. It is extremely easy.
just putting it together is not really hard at all. when it doesn't boot / boot loop or need trouble shooting is where it gets a bit hard lol
That's nothing like LEGO. That's my issue here. Make you point that it's not as hard as one might think but stop comparing it to LEGO.No no no. See this quoted post and it's exactly like this. People are just afraid because they think they can easily break things. Breaking a graphics card or a motherboard is more difficult than some people might think. People putting the CPU socket wrong even though there are arrows showing how you are suppose to do it...well maybe take a breather and look a bit at your components. Also you can also break adult lego not even speaking about the lego tech department.
I mean it's this:
- put your budget into a one of those sites many people posted here
- order those things
- look up a Youtube video with lots of views and recommendations or just type that into google and you get the building order
- do the building order and put a bit of pressure for the CPU fan
- try to turn it on, realize you miss the mainboard pins for being able to start your computer
- fiddle around with those little shit sticks (or you have a modern motherboard which is a single stick and even easier)
- ???
- ignore cable management
- enjoy
People usually say, "adult LEGOs". Adult being the key operator here. Because it's about as complex as regular LEGOs would be to children. But you're not a child, so scale up the complexity accordingly and you have PC building.That's nothing like LEGO. That's my issue here. Make you point that it's not as hard as one might think but stop comparing it to LEGO.
I feel like people on this thread are vastly understating how hard it is to build a PC if you've never done it before. There are so ways it can go south of you aren't careful. Messing up steps like paste or shield, scraping the board (hope you have a magnetic screwdriver OP), bending pins, dropping parts, causing static, installing incompatible parts, troubleshooting dud parts, the list goes on, and the quickest slip can mean you've lost hundreds of dollars and/or hours of your time. With Lego you can throw the pieces on the ground and it doesn't matter, it's not even comparable.
I'd add that cable management is also very important though. Something you don't have to worry about with Lego, and something a lot of people neglect.
Even adult lego is a poor analogy, and most people ITT are not saying "adult" so I don't think people usually do.People usually say, "adult LEGOs". Adult being the key operator here. Because it's about as complex as regular LEGOs would be to children. But you're not a child, so scale up the complexity accordingly and you have PC building.
This seems like such a "no shit, sherlock" moment until you realize that beginners probably don't know about it.. Although you really should read the MB manual.This a super beginner mistake I once did many years ago that I think needs to be stressed OP.
People usually just say "LEGO", no distinction. I played with LEGO extensively as a child (back in the 1980s) and I don't remember it being in anyway hard or complicated, just fun. The Technic LEGO (I think it was called?) was more complicated but still not in anyway like building a PC.People usually say, "adult LEGOs". Adult being the key operator here. Because it's about as complex as regular LEGOs would be to children. But you're not a child, so scale up the complexity accordingly and you have PC building.
This.^ Very good post.I remember my most recent PC build. I got all the parts, assembled them in a couple of hours, and hit the power button... nothing. I checked it out, saw that it was all correctly installed, and tried again. Nothing.
Hmm. Took it all out the case, stripped it back to the essentials and tried powering it on again. Still nothing. It was only then that I realised one of my RAM sticks wasn't properly inserted. Fixed that up and it powered on fine, and has been working ever since.
It's not quite LEGO/Ikea easy, but it is much easier to do today then it was two decades back (I also built a PC then and that was pretty fun.) Parts are trivially compatible and you can check this before purchase, and there's a wealth of tutorials and instruction videos available. If you're reasonably switched on and have a second screen (laptop, tablet, phone) available it's perfectly doable. Just take your time and try to be confident when putting stuff in, which I know can be hard when you're holding over a thousand pounds worth of kit. There's even a good thread for this stuff on ERA.
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Not all you got this, watch a couple build guides from LinusTechTips and Paul's hardware, there are many other good ones too but those two guys are both very beginner user friendly and will walk you through it all very understandablySo I've been trying to get a PC for the past month. I know bad timing but I'm at home and want to build up my portfolio while I'm furloughed. Anyway I tried to order from Alienware then after 3 weeks they canceled my order. I tried to order from NZXT but it got canceled after 3 days... So I think I'm going to say fuck it and build one myself.
Im intimated as fuck though at the thought of building a PC. So I'm just wondering how hard is it really. I'm not a rocket scientist or anything but I consider myself smart enough haha. I wasn't to big into legos and was never really a mechanic but I can build BBQ'S and Chairs with ease at my job. Anyway would you recommend I build my own and become a true PC master or should I stick with my original plan and find a prebuilt?
Honestly even that isn't hard anymore. Most CPU coolers come with the thermal paste (the only part people historically ever really messed up) pre-applied these days. Just gotta have a somewhat steady hand. Peel paste cover, press down, screw down, done.Really the "hardest" part is mounting the CPU to the motherboard. But if you do it slowly and carefully, it's a breeze.
I had a problem booting up my PC after building it. I freaked out a bit, but the solution was I just had to take the CMOS battery out and put it back in again lol.I had this kind of problem with my two PCs I built.
No idea how I made then work.
And I had a black screen when switching my GPU.
Putting pieces together is ok. Fixing random problems can give a headache.
The heatsink can be tricky, though.Honestly even that isn't hard anymore. Most CPU coolers come with the thermal paste (the only part people historically ever really messed up) pre-applied these days. Just gotta have a somewhat steady hand. Peel paste cover, press down, screw down, done.
I agree. Tricky, but not hard.The heatsink can be tricky, though.
My 2700x came with a Prism cooler, at the time I bought it, there was literally no tutorial online for how to clamp it in and the box had incredibly vague instructions. The way I thought it was supposed to go felt like I was going to break it by applying the pressure needed to click it in place. After building so many PCs over the years, I'm no stranger to how the pressure you need to apply can feel like too much... but this was a new level.
I did eventually just go for it, and it worked, but this was mostly because I had experience with this. A person doing it for the first time... I'm sure many wouldn't have been able to convince themselves to push as hard as I needed to.
This isn't true for all parts, ofc, but it is something you could run into pretty easily as a new builder and it can be pretty stressful to deal with even with experience.
Tricky is hard for some, though... that's the point why making generalizations like this isn't really helpful. And why the "lego" type analogies are more about the person saying "it's easy for me" than anything.