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ResetEra Ownership Update
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Don't quote me only to not to answer my question.
Also, a general note to the thread: knock it off with the negative insinuations about staff relationships. It's obvious most of the members know little about Cerium, so there's no need to try and armchair diagnose any potential of abuse.
I think lie is being too harsh.
It evolved from what it started out but no one planned this from scratch.
I don't mind the owner wanting out, selling up and making even 10 million out of it, i still think there should have been some discussion about where the forum would end up, given how it started. Probably better for a buyer to see a happier(well slightly happier given it's us lot) community than what this looks like now.
Two questions mainly.
1)There's a general perception that that site was owned by several stakeholders, what was the timeline of ownership and how did he became the solo owner. Who were the other stakeholders, what offers were made to them and for what reason?
2) Why did he choose to sell it to corporations as opposed to seeking a successor within the community? His initial introduction message to us was "Everything we do begins and ends with the community.", how does selling to an investor group achieve this?
That's not what I said.
People have every right to be angry, but I don't think there's any reason that would make anyone angry right now ok with his decision.
I will agree wholeheartedly that these two are fair questions for him to address. Staff cannot guarantee when or if he'll come in though, and that's not me putting up for him. It's saying we ain't got control of the man's will.
Money was always planned, maybe it wasn't planned to sell it (cause who buys forums in 2021) but $ was always a big factor. And it should have been, cause why deal with a headache of this place if it doesn't have a chance to recoup costs. Also you don't buy out partners unless you think you're going to score big at the end.
on the same hand, I would never talk to any of you again if I got paid 4.5m
I get that and I appreciate staffs patience but I really hope we get answers.
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If I were him the only thing I'd do is contact former/current mods and break em off a thousand each for their troubles. Why in the world would I come in this thread if people see me as the ultimate evil?
I'd totally sell out this site for 4.5m. Absolutely. But I'd also give some to charity to at least try to help perpetuate the ideals of the community. I don't nearly need that much money to set myself, my family, and my friends all up for life so it can help others out. I'd definitely give all the mods and former mods a nice gift for their hard volunteer work.
You think? Well…As mentioned previously in this same thread…
"AJx made a thread like this in 2017 before his ban titled:
Resetera revenue should go back to the community and gaming charity causes "
We're never going to hear from him again.
Not at all. Many people thought this would happen from the very beginning of the site's founding.
LMAO, I actually fell for this and was checking thread marks and clicking around your post.
same, but I also wouldn't reply to a single person because binch im rich
unless someone wants to buy the name, I'm sure its for sale for the right price
Found: Footage of Cerium in his new car.BREAKING: first footage of Cerium absconding with the dough and abandoning staff and community to contend with the fallout:
Dunno what to tell you. Casual bigotry is very much a situation of "the axe forgets but the tree remembers." Any time a minority poster sees someone be lightly punished (from their perspective) for saying something hurtful to them, they're likely to think that the mods aren't doing enough. Conversely, anybody who's literally just asking questions (from their perspective) may or may not be engaging in bad faith, but if their post gets actioned, they're going to think the mods are going too far.
LOL you got me in stitches, and I would actually take that lmao.
"Suck my diiiiiiiick!!! I'm rich bitches! Suck my diiii---
*Ferrari roaring away*"
I always believed Zhuge and Shinobi and the all the admins that were here at the start owned a stake. I always believed every decision that affected the board was done in good faith.
I had no idea a single person owned the site, in fact, once I saw a post mention "the owner is Cerium", I thought it was the name of a company that is paid to maintain the site "on behalf of the community" by the original founders.
I had no idea it was a user name of a single person.
I also had no idea the site made any money outside of "keeping the lights on"
I'd hate to think I was ignorant of the truth, I just thought everything regarding ownership was done in good faith. Now, I just don't know anymore.
I'm so afraid that if numbers fall in the site, because people stop coming here because of new ownership, and realising it's not community run, the new owners will shut the whole place down.
Like Cerium said.. it's an investment to them. The importance of the site in our daily and gaming lives is irrelevant to them.
I feel we are all just numbers to Cerium. Numbers to the new owners. This whole thing makes me very sad.
The site shutting down would be the best thing to happen, honestly.
About Era Clear, it was offered early on when the site was new and ad revenue was just getting off the ground. The only time it was given any real push was after the 2.0 redesign, which cost a lot and I recall the hope was that subscriptions could help offset that, so the plug was added at the bottom of the site. After that it kind of became an afterthought and went untouched until now.
Honestly I don't think anyone remembered the wording on the subscription page and that was definitely a mistake and should have been changed. It's been adjusted.
Honestly I don't think anyone remembered the wording on the subscription page and that was definitely a mistake and should have been changed. It's been adjusted.
User Banned (Permanent): Troll account.
Oh, like the massive one on the 1st page with 3k responses? Trust me, we're all laughing. Everyone is, really.
Have a blessed day!
This place was supposedly born from the ashes of a pretty large scandal. Born with the promise of being of the community for the community. But it turns out that was a lie. It was born of a want of ownership by an individual/individuals.
Maybe that very ownership fact was obfuscated because if truth be known people wouldn't have so easily been lead or been as trusting in congregating and enabling of such financial endeavour. Maybe, just maybe, if the truth was known from the start this place would never have gained the mass to enable such a financially rewarding deal for an individual/individuals. Maybe if that fact had been placed on the table from the off somewhere else could have grown that fit the spec of said 'product'. Hmm people or product, which one would this community have chosen. I wonder?
As someone who only lurks and posts sporadically but who has been here several years, I (and many others according to posts in this thread) understandably, and in hindsight rather naively, thought this place was ran as a non profit and for the posters benefit. It was certainly hinted to be ran that way. The spirit that this place so strives to have seems to have been built on shady hush speak in back spaces and what the prols don't need to know won't hurt them.
Would this place have gathered the momentum and lets call it what it is, product's critical mass/numbers, if it was clear, clear etc, was actually benefiting individuals instead of what seemingly the whole ethos of its creation was imagined to be.
"For the community by the community"
Pretty heart-breaking that one of the sites major ideals was just smoke.
Maybe that very ownership fact was obfuscated because if truth be known people wouldn't have so easily been lead or been as trusting in congregating and enabling of such financial endeavour. Maybe, just maybe, if the truth was known from the start this place would never have gained the mass to enable such a financially rewarding deal for an individual/individuals. Maybe if that fact had been placed on the table from the off somewhere else could have grown that fit the spec of said 'product'. Hmm people or product, which one would this community have chosen. I wonder?
As someone who only lurks and posts sporadically but who has been here several years, I (and many others according to posts in this thread) understandably, and in hindsight rather naively, thought this place was ran as a non profit and for the posters benefit. It was certainly hinted to be ran that way. The spirit that this place so strives to have seems to have been built on shady hush speak in back spaces and what the prols don't need to know won't hurt them.
Would this place have gathered the momentum and lets call it what it is, product's critical mass/numbers, if it was clear, clear etc, was actually benefiting individuals instead of what seemingly the whole ethos of its creation was imagined to be.
"For the community by the community"
Pretty heart-breaking that one of the sites major ideals was just smoke.
Every freaking place that's discussing what's happening here is fucking folded on the ground laughing hard and rightfully so. The move pretty much betrays every single values this forum standed on, behind the back of EVERYONE. :lol
The grift was felt all around the internet.
If giving back was the clear message to take, then it would have been highlighted. The reason why the line about the only thing you were getting were going to be "no ads" was highlighted is because that was the takeaway you should have taken.
These are good questions.
I would also like to know what makes MOBA Network such a good fit. Reading the terms of use for some of their other boards is gutting.
Your logo is amazing and you heart was in the right place, just the old adage "no good deed goes unpunished" is once again proven right. Sick of good charitable people being taken advantage of. I want to know how the hell did cerium become the sole owner and we all ended up not with a community run forum WHICH THIS WAS WHEN WE JOINED to just him, hands off collecting 700k a year.
Gotta respect Cerium for making 700k per year with the board and selling it later for 4.5m while letting the board run by pretty much by only volunters asides from the the techstaff.
True capitalist exploiting the work force for pretty much nothing.
Edit: Oh and selling it to mobafire that hosts some of the most toxic gamergate videogame forums in the internet is also :chefkiss:
Perfect fit my ass.
True capitalist exploiting the work force for pretty much nothing.
Edit: Oh and selling it to mobafire that hosts some of the most toxic gamergate videogame forums in the internet is also :chefkiss:
Perfect fit my ass.
They were willing to pay him 4.5 million dollar, the perfect fit
I'm having a lot of trouble swallowing that even though it seems obvious. I mean some of the mods and admins I respect the most are still in his corner here, right now, surely there has to be...something, right? :/
Because some of those policies literally outlaw what has always made this community safe and special for a lot of people here.
I don't remember if Zhuge owned a stake. Someone should ask him on twitter, he'd probably respond. Other admins in general all owning a stake is 100% untrue. We had the opportunity to own a stake, but a lot of us decided against it.
Even overlooking that it's hilarious. Good portion of the forum hates the companies that make MOBA games. Even if they didn't, MOBA/multiplayer games might as well for how little they're talked about here.
I for one welcome our new corporate overlords, anyone wanna team up and play some LoL or DOTA?
Everyone has a price. The problem here is that there shouldn't have been a single owner. This place should've been owned by a community as a non-profit org, not an LLC. This oversight will probably be how this place will lose whatever cachet it had because the facade all fell off.
Yeah, I found it now. My posts are up there in screen caps as well. :(
This board hasn't been safe for a lot of communities for years and the new corporate masters will only make those problems worse.
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