Despite not being updated Odin 2 has much better ps2 emulation than Steam Deck. Most games that don't work on SD work on Odin 2 at high rez and full speed
I'd tend to agree that there are games that my RP4 will struggle with PS2 wise that I'll try on the Deck and expect some improvement and it isn't really there as much as you might expect. And I still have to manually disable SMT every so often (that I can't even do now because decky is borked)
Yeah I wanted to play Blood will Tell on SD and I would get like 20fps whatever the settings I try. On Odin 2 it's 60 at 3x
But for some reason I am having trouble with Ace Combat 5. But I did not mess with the settings
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I never knew. I thought the Steam Deck woukd have about the same ps2 emulation quality as the Asus rog ally. And I really enjoy emulation on the rog ally. In addition to playing Dreamcast, Sega Saturn, PS2, Gamecube/ Wii perfectly, it's also great for ps3 and wiiu and Model 3. (I'll try Switch and Xbox 360 in the future).
Steam OS is linux and that version is always behind and not just ps2. I remember trying Redream on SD and every game had some visual artifact. It turns out it's a bug that has been there for ~2 years on the linux version and some specific chip. Not sure if it is fixed now.
WiiU seem to work fine, ps3 only the light games
well at least I didn't order with the expectation that it will work without issues lol
the more I look, the more tempted I get to go for a rp4+ or odin 2
Just got the SP. First impression is quite strong. Love the form-factor and think it might be more comfortable for me than the XX-H. With that said, the Silver looks nice but the paint does feel kinda cheap, and part of me wishes I had gone with one of the transparent models, but that's without having felt them in hand...
Mupen standalone runs N64 just about perfectly on the RG405M, and even my Retroid Pocket 2+.
what i worry about is the form factor. what holds me back on using my odin lite for 3d games is the awful sticks position, which if im gonna focus on dpad games, i'd play them on something with a better dpad placement (aka my miyoo mini+).
i really should get to selling my odin lite tho. maybe replace it with a odin 2? can't tell if i'd enjoy the ergonomics and sticks more or less.
i really should get to selling my odin lite tho. maybe replace it with a odin 2? can't tell if i'd enjoy the ergonomics and sticks more or less.
I am super close to ordering an SP. The two things holding are 1) I have an H that I still haven't set up yet, and 2) I can't decide on a color
this is purely out of looking at youtube videos and just wanting something nicer. I know I shouldn't.
I got mupen standalone running well along with a front end I can't manage to spell, and like the setup with my rp2+
a bigger screen would be nice, but I also have a steam deck already
Alright, good to know. I've wanted Steam Deck, but it was never released in my country. My combo of Anbernic RG35XX H + Asus rog ally works well enough though. I only miss being able to play Sega Saturn perfectly on a much smaller device.
It sucks that the Arc is not powerful enough but Odin 2 covers that for me
Around $200 and plays PS2 = Retroid Pocket 4 Pro or the Odin 2 if you can stretch your budget
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After owning and enjoying my Evercade Super Pocket, and an Analogue Pocket, I finally ordered an RGB30 which will be my dedicated Pico-8 handheld! Anybody know how long it takes directly from Powkiddy? Is it really 2 weeks to a month?? Thanks!
I really like the RG405M. The difference in screen estate from the RP2+ is noticeable. Just make sure of two things: you're installing GammaOS on it, and you are getting a grip too. That one is a bit less comfortable to hold without a grip than an RP2+.
"Up to PS2" pretty much means top of the line for these lol. Odin 2 is the only good value device that gives great PS2 performance imo. You can get Retroid Pocket 4 which is decent but there are plenty of PS2 games that run poorly on it still. So I'd go with an Odin 2.
The Retroid Pocket 4 Pro is the only device under $200 that can play most of the PS2 library. The Odin 2 plays PS2 nearly perfectly, but it's $300.
Thanks guys.
Steam Link would be more important than PS2 level emulation TBH. I will mostly use this on the sofa and anything the device cant emulate, my PC will be able to.
So if there is something that can do that plus has decent sticks and triggers, I wouldnt mind looking at that either. I dont wanna spend more cause that puts me in the "buy a used steam deck category".
Steam Link would be more important than PS2 level emulation TBH. I will mostly use this on the sofa and anything the device cant emulate, my PC will be able to.
So if there is something that can do that plus has decent sticks and triggers, I wouldnt mind looking at that either. I dont wanna spend more cause that puts me in the "buy a used steam deck category".
Funnily enough if you want a good device for streaming you have to go with a large one. Which puts in the same position, meaning Steam Deck or a large android device. The Logitech G has been praised for that but with limited emulation (aka not good enough for ps2) and is within your price range.
Odin 2 is great for ps2 but I wouldn't recommend it for streaming. For that purpose SD is better.
TLRD: Steam Deck or Logitech G
RP4pro is still my favorite of these things that I've tried. Has run everything I've tried. Only negative is the screen is a little small.
You guys think the higher price of the RGB20SX is worth it compared to the RGB30? It's pretty much the same thing in vertical except for the bigger battery. Not sure about d-pad and build quality though.
I just noticed the price difference isn't that big. I could get the RGB30 for around 69 Euros on Aliexpress and the SX for 76 Euros including taxes and shipping. Still not sure what to buy though.
I just noticed the price difference isn't that big. I could get the RGB30 for around 69 Euros on Aliexpress and the SX for 76 Euros including taxes and shipping. Still not sure what to buy though.
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You can always use proton on a windows executable, thats what I ended up doing for Redream.
Even so the Deck has like half the cores of the Z1x, so its going to fall far behind in higher-end emulation, particularly with the GPU being relatively idle.
I'm not super picky about such things and thought the GBA games I played looked great. The default filter and overlay on stock FW was a nice touch.
I honestly can vouch for the screen too. It's a great screen. I think it has decent color reproduction too if I remember correctly!
Edit: went and found this
"The results reveal that the Odin 2 screen impressively covers 96% of the P3 color gamut, making it a standout in the realm of displays."
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ETA Prime has a video about adding a heatsink to the SP, but watch out because most of the comments are saying it's a bad idea.
I would say the Odin 2. I've got the base model and can run Steam games just fine with Steam link. It all depends on your internet connection.
ETA Prime would definitely not be my first choice for modding advice.
People bring up PS2 a lot here so it might be a good place to ask. Some games look great and some are abnormally blurry/shakey. Googling makes me think that has to do with interlacing but wasn't sure, but I only really run into it with some PS2 games. Is that just how it is or is there not much you can do about it other than fiddle with the deinterlace options?
What games? Device? I don't have that issue with the games I have tested
Well you mentioning device made me go try and find one that was consistent across PC/Linux/Android and it was actually hard to find one. Android seemed least susceptible but maybe my settings are different there. Densha De Go Final was consistently flicker-ey looking across all but it isn't the most common game I guess. GT3 is extremely flickery on my PC but fine on Linux/Android.
Would the software rendering path do this? Most of these PS2 games were 480i so they are supposed to be be jittery/blurry, but the emulators kind of ignore that when translating to 3D APIs. You also had some games doing per-field shading for that 480i, its kind of impossible to emulate that accurately without simulating interlacing (and I guess de-interlacing)
I guess I'd also curious why the 480i presents itself this way for some PS2 games and not other games running in -i for other gen 5/6 systems.
Edit: I found a forum post that goes over it:
Why the option for interlacing? [Edited]
First I need to say I don't know how to program, let alone know how a PS2 or its emulation works. But I always had this question: Why does PCSX2 has the Interlacing option at all? I know the image of
Basically, other systems have standardized interlacing techniques that are easier to counteract behind the scenes, PS2 is a hodge podge of however the developer wanted to do it on a per game basis and the de-interlacing work is therefore not as straightforward.
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Yeah that's pretty obscure. I'll try it tomorrow. It's the 3rd game right?
That was a big issue for a long time. That's why the Ace Combat games were a pain to emulate properly. They had the same issue but it's fixed now I thinkEdit: I found a forum post that goes over it:
Why the option for interlacing? [Edited]
First I need to say I don't know how to program, let alone know how a PS2 or its emulation works. But I always had this question: Why does PCSX2 has the Interlacing option at all? I know the image offorums.pcsx2.net
Basically, other systems have standardized interlacing techniques that are easier to counteract behind the scenes, PS2 is a hodge podge of however the developer wanted to do it on a per game basis and the de-interlacing work is therefore not as straightforward.
Do I misread the specs or does this plays in a whole different league ? Looks like a 200$ device, no ?
I am. No issues other than the slow speed of charging.
I don't love the D-pad but it's not like I'm playing anything where I need it to be better.
I really like the RG Cube design in every way except the DPad placement. Don't like that they went with Asymmetrical there. I was really interested otherwise.
We can't stop and won't stop!
Realistically these companies HAVE to keep pushing new hardware, they don't sell software. Constantly danglingly marginally better devices with different form factors keeps people buying.
Has very quickly become my go-to handheld when I'm looking for a quick blast of something, esp SNES and GB/GBC games due to being able to implement an 8:7 aspect ratio. I find it comfy to use, is great with ARKOS firmware and the only issue I had was I had to open it up and disconnect the battery then reconnect it to solve the wild discharging it would go through once I slipped past 50%. All fine now.
The D-Pad is OK, but I ain't going in there to mess with it or the sticks, they're perfectly serviceable considering the price.