I can't see anything in the patch notes about ciphers being easier to locate or am I missing it?
Returnal update 1.0.4 coming Monday June 14th
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1. People are just asking for a save-upon-exit option like Hades and other roguelites offer. The save deletes itself when you start the game back up.
2. if other players do find a way to save scum then like, that's their choice. Doesn't affect my experience.
This is my current stance. But I will buy it as soon as a save system of some sort is available. I'm not very hopeful anymore though to be honest.
Didn't hurt Hades. Some of us share systems with others.
Also, if someone is that determined to cheat, why should it bother you? You're not affected.
I like the additional haptics additions. I'm gonna keep working on the platinum over the weekend to see if I can get it before the update. Only 4 more research trophies dammit!
They are adding a save feature so obviously the devs don't agree with you.
I think a save and quit feature would be nice at the start of a biome. Now that I've played through all the acts, I feel completely unstoppable, and the idea of adding a "save anywhere" option seems completely unnecessary, but having some option would be nice for people that share a PS5 and so on.
Also, the game definitely gets easier the more you play, and not because of your skill improving, but because of additional artifacts being unlocked. The more you unlock, the more likely they are to be available in those 75 coin random generators, or chests for that matter. Gets to the point where you are destroying artifacts you don't like because you have so many. So, even if you suck, as long as you keep unlocking artifacts, it'll get easier and easier.
Also, the game definitely gets easier the more you play, and not because of your skill improving, but because of additional artifacts being unlocked. The more you unlock, the more likely they are to be available in those 75 coin random generators, or chests for that matter. Gets to the point where you are destroying artifacts you don't like because you have so many. So, even if you suck, as long as you keep unlocking artifacts, it'll get easier and easier.
Ugh I dunno man. I'm playing Rivet & Clank now. I'VE MOVED ON. SELENE AND I ARE DIFFERENT PEOPLE NOW.
Not in this update. They haven't announced anything about a mid run save feature.
This. Pretty much only waiting for a patch that allows saving when exiting the game.
most of this can be chalked up to "who gives a shit??"
honestly why do I care if someone wants to do that to beat a boss fight? I just want to be able to play the game simultaneous with other shit, instead it's staying in the backlog since ratchet is out
didn't even know you could do this. Figure there'd be a way around it. The way I see it, that save would be single use and not impact the game experience in any way. Like rest state, except reliable.
kinda think for the folks complaining about not having a auto save system and haven't played the game are kinda not understanding how the game is structured.
gonna put in spoilers some design aspects of the game
a) no, you dont have to start from the very beggining through out the game. after you beat biome 3, you start from biome 4 each run
b) there's short cuts. once you beat a boss, you can go to the next biome. so for example, when i beat the game, the run took like 30-40 mins to complete
just throwing that out there to make things a little more clear about how it's actually not that big of a deal saving mid runs. but yeah, sure, the game could use them anyway
gonna put in spoilers some design aspects of the game
a) no, you dont have to start from the very beggining through out the game. after you beat biome 3, you start from biome 4 each run
b) there's short cuts. once you beat a boss, you can go to the next biome. so for example, when i beat the game, the run took like 30-40 mins to complete
just throwing that out there to make things a little more clear about how it's actually not that big of a deal saving mid runs. but yeah, sure, the game could use them anyway
I'm still on the original version with the USB keyboard cheat.
Question, (I have digital version) if I delete the game and redownload....with is be the newest patched version or would I have to download the newest patch after competing the download? I think PS3 worked this way. Don't recall what PS4 did.
Question, (I have digital version) if I delete the game and redownload....with is be the newest patched version or would I have to download the newest patch after competing the download? I think PS3 worked this way. Don't recall what PS4 did.
Obviously not into this update but they said they are looking into it. So they don't fundamentally disagree with the idea.
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They said they're looking into it but nothing is confirmed. That said, I do think they'll do it but it'll take more time.
Returnal's Save System Still Being Investigated, New Content in the Works
Housemarque still not sure on best approach to save issues
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They could look into it and also find that it's not worth the effort. Just saying it's been over a month and nothing has happened.
Haha maybe I'll actually try to get the platinum trophy now. I was horrified to hear how many hours people were spending on it.
Been waiting for this. I have minor clean up in Biomes 2 and 3 for the platinum, but crashes and save corruptions made me put the game down 2 weeks ago. I wanna get the Returnal plat squared away before I really dive into Ratchet and FFVII Intergrade…and ME3, and Guilty Gear Strive, and Virtua Fighter 5 US.
My PS5 is an embarrassment of riches right now.
My PS5 is an embarrassment of riches right now.
Returnal is on the easy side for platinums compared to something like The Binding of Isaac.
I don't think that's even remotely possible.
You mean to tell me not a single person in the studio has a family?
Kids that share a console?
Plays more than 1 title at a time?
Has auto-updates on?
Has enough gaming time for the length of runs in this game?
This is 1000% arrogance.
Thats cool if the devs want to add a save mode. Doesn't bother me either way. Just offering an explanation as to why they omitted it. I still would like to know who is putting together multi hour runs though.
Source? I remember the noise after the Axios quote but it seemed misinterpreted to me - have they confirmed this anywhere?
I'm definitely into these balance updates. Too many runs just feel too unforgiving and the time investment to make "progress" can be maddening.
I just bought Valhalla and Ratchet so I don't see myself going back to Returnal at the moment, but this is very cool. Hopefully we'll see the save function and some new content in the near future now that the game is (hopefully) getting more stable. I think that'll be when I jump back in.
You don't need to finish the game in one sitting though.
After each level the games saves that as a "checkpoint" so you don't have to replay levels.
The issue is some levels take quite a bit of time.
I don't disagree with you since a lot of people are probably holding off due to missing the ability to save mid run. However, based on other HM games I've played I truly don't think any save system is on the way anytime soon.
They make arcade style games so this kind of stuff is their pedigree to an extent. To them stuff like no mid run save is not a surprising choice. I'd say they probably weren't expecting this to some extent.
Nice patch! Some really good news for platinum trophy hunters in there.
I wouldn't wait. Returnal is really something special. The gameplay is in a class by itself and I hope some other developers are taking notes: this is how a third-person, high-mobility shooter should be done.
What's missing is "save and quit", you can't save the game mid-run. But, it's really not a big deal: a full, successful act I or act II run takes two hours at most. The majority of your runs are going to be much shorter on average.
No such announcement has been made. Housemarque is currently "looking into it".
I wouldn't wait. Returnal is really something special. The gameplay is in a class by itself and I hope some other developers are taking notes: this is how a third-person, high-mobility shooter should be done.
What's missing is "save and quit", you can't save the game mid-run. But, it's really not a big deal: a full, successful act I or act II run takes two hours at most. The majority of your runs are going to be much shorter on average.
No such announcement has been made. Housemarque is currently "looking into it".
I think it is less arrogance and just a more archaic way of looking at games. They specialize in arcade games. Returnal is, to me, an arcade game at its core. You need to have at least one hour of time set aside if you're going to play it. (Most arcade games can be completed in about an hour). You can definitely clear a single biome in one hour, which unlocks the shortcut to the next biome. Arcade games are hard. You die in them all the time. But, simply playing the game is supposed to be fun. If you die, so what? If the gameplay is super tight and fun, that's the reason why you're playing, not stat progression.
That's a pretty old way to look at games, though. I can see most people thinking it is dumb and it isn't "respecting their time", which I get, but I also respect developers that basically say, well, maybe the game isn't for you, which is also fine.
I can sense a lot of anger here...
Yes, I am a very perceptive man.
