that's what I'd expect too. it's probably too late to change things for Smash as wellProbably will just cut ties with Rueben, and find a new Dante for next game.
that's what I'd expect too. it's probably too late to change things for Smash as wellProbably will just cut ties with Rueben, and find a new Dante for next game.
Lmaoooo. When asked to clarify his statements he's like "nah, i'm too ignorant". Also, this statement is quite telling "Then making up a narrative to serve your clear bias about the #qanon 8chan discussions. "
One man used a recreational substance that only hurts himself, the other doubled down on his long history of supporting conspiracy groups that directly lead to terrorist attacks.OK. This is going to sound like whataboutism. And I swear it's not intentional. I've just been trying to understand what the goal here. Specifically regarding Reuben's shitty opinions. Are people who have shitty opinions not allowed to have jobs? I mean we literally have a thread on the same page where an actor committed a crime and the comments are exact opposite. People are mad at Sega for dropping an actor...
https://www.resetera.com/threads/up...-team-in-the-west.106221/page-2#post-18993871
OK. This is going to sound like whataboutism. And I swear it's not intentional. I've just been trying to understand what the goal here. Specifically regarding Reuben's shitty opinions. Are people who have shitty opinions not allowed to have jobs? I mean we literally have a thread on the same page where an actor committed a crime and the comments are exact opposite. People are mad at Sega for dropping an actor...
https://www.resetera.com/threads/up...-team-in-the-west.106221/page-2#post-18993871
EDIT: As a disclaimer because I know I will be accused of something. I don't like DMC, I didin't know who this guy was until yesterday, I strongly disagree with pretty much every opinion he has.
Pretty sure in most jobs if you air offensive or inappropriate views on social media you can be disciplined for it.OK. This is going to sound like whataboutism. And I swear it's not intentional. I've just been trying to understand what the goal here. Specifically regarding Reuben's shitty opinions. Are people who have shitty opinions not allowed to have jobs? I mean we literally have a thread on the same page where an actor committed a crime and the comments are exact opposite. People are mad at Sega for dropping an actor...
https://www.resetera.com/threads/up...-team-in-the-west.106221/page-2#post-18993871
Lmaoooo. When asked to clarify his statements he's like "nah, i'm too ignorant". Also, this statement is quite telling "Then making up a narrative to serve your clear bias about the #qanon 8chan discussions. "
But there are laws. I'm not a fan of drug laws, but that's what they are. Laws. There's actual arrest being made.One man used a recreational substance that only hurts himself, the other doubled down on his long history of supporting conspiracy groups that directly lead to terrorist attacks.
OK. This is going to sound like whataboutism. And I swear it's not intentional. I've just been trying to understand what the goal here. Specifically regarding Reuben's shitty opinions. Are people who have shitty opinions not allowed to have jobs? I mean we literally have a thread on the same page where an actor committed a crime and the comments are exact opposite. People are mad at Sega for dropping an actor...
https://www.resetera.com/threads/up...-team-in-the-west.106221/page-2#post-18993871
But there are laws. I'm not a fan of drug laws, but that's what they are. Laws. There's actual arrest being made.
But laws are waaaay more important in the society than morals are. You go to prison because of laws but not for the morals...Your first mistake is equating laws with morals. Of these 2 situations, one of these people is a shitty human being. The other just not following a law.
But laws are waaaay more important in the society than morals are. You go to prison because of laws but not for the morals...
I pretty much agree with all of this. But all of these are opinions while laws are lines set up by society that shouldn't be crossed.As far as having shitty opinions and the whole job thing, people are allowed to have jobs with shitty opinions and companies are allowed to dump them for those shitty opinions. Reuben's opinions are dangerous and indifferent to the sufferings of others. The Japanese dude who snorted coke is damaging himself. If you can't see the difference between the two and how drug addiction is not the same thing as sharing conspiracy theories, perhaps you should look into what he's sharing and how little he does to articulate or defend it.
Or they could have Dan Southworth do both Dante and Vergil, since they already auditioned him for Dante for DMC4 and almost gave him the role back then.
But laws are waaaay more important in the society than morals are. You go to prison because of laws but not for the morals...
Yup, that's my dad's mindset. In sum and substance: "Criticizing my opinion is the same as taking away my right to my opinion." Also, "it can't be wrong because it's an opinion"This reminds me the discussions I have with my mother. "You must listen to me, because all opinions must be heard. Even if you don't like them."
Yeah, well... I don't want to hear your homophobic or misogynist opinion or conspiracy bullshit. You should be ashamed of yourself for even thinking that.
That's what we agreed on as a society. If not people would go to prison for their morals (or rehabilitation center, or whatever).
I can see Morrison's voice getting redubbed but it'd be harder to erase Reuben's work.
Absolutely not. But I don't agree with drug laws to begin with.So with this in mind, you would report a friend of yours to the police for abusing drugs?
Absolutely not. But I don't agree with drug laws to begin with.
My question is around what is being proposed here. Should people like Rueben not hold a job now? Is that new line we are drawing?
Big fax, every company I worked at when I waited tables to every firm I've worked at since I got my cpa, has code of conduct policies and a good chunk of em focus on how you can't represent the company in a certain way on social media n such.Pretty sure in most jobs if you air offensive or inappropriate views on social media you can be disciplined for it.
Capcom and other companies won't want to deal with someone so toxic who can hurt their brand with their views
That's what we agreed on as a society. If not people would go to prison for their morals (or rehabilitation center, or whatever).
No it's not, most of these laws were made without your input before you were even born by a group of people you don't even know and probably will never meet.
Some laws are unjust.I pretty much agree with all of this. But all of these are opinions while laws are lines set up by society that shouldn't be crossed.
I should probably clarify that I think all drugs should be legal. I'm not disagreeing with any opinions here.
read this.Really disappointing to hear all of this. Still more confused by the Morrison thing, not sure how the hell that even happened.
So that's why I soured on the term "color-blind," because I felt like I was being color-blind. I was just casting whoever was great and I wasn't really thinking about their race, and then I was surprised to discover all the people I thought were great were white people.
I pretty much agree with all of this. But all of these are opinions while laws are lines set up by society that shouldn't be crossed.
I should probably clarify that I think all drugs should be legal. I'm not disagreeing with any opinions here.
Is part of the law in Japan that if you're arrested for a drug offense, all of your professional work needs to be erased?But there are laws. I'm not a fan of drug laws, but that's what they are. Laws. There's actual arrest being made.
Barely 70 years ago, it was illegal for women and minorities to vote. It was legal to enact various genocides that occurred in history. Legality does not indicate right or wrong.
Once again. Nothing I'm disagreeing with. But if Capcom gets to fire someone because they have shitty opinions, shouldn't Sega have a right to fire someone for breaking the law?Is part of the law in Japan that if you're arrested for a drug offense, all of your professional work needs to be erased?
Nobody's trying to argue in that thread that what he did was legal. They're saying that the response by Sega is unwarranted.
What does their right to do that have to do with our speaking up against an unjust law?Once again. Nothing I'm disagreeing with. But if Capcom gets to fire someone because they have shitty opinions, shouldn't Sega have a right to fire someone for breaking the law?
We're not sure, but it sure is a weird thing to casually drop in there if you're not.Is Reuben Langdon an 8chan user? That's what I'm getting from that new statement at least, but I'm not sure if I'm interpreting that right.
Again, it's not a rights issue. There isn't a petition to sue Sega for unlawfully terminating an employee.Once again. Nothing I'm disagreeing with. But if Capcom gets to fire someone because they have shitty opinions, shouldn't Sega have a right to fire someone for breaking the law?
Because I think that two threads directly contradict each other.What does their right to do that have to do with our speaking up against an unjust law?
Why are you trying to equate this with us speaking up about a person's bigotry?
They don't.Because I think that two threads directly contradict each other.
Who was arguing otherwise? This straw man example doesn't fly fam. When people snark about the Sega thing, they are taking a shot at Japanese companies for giving more of a shit about a workers vice (destructive tho it may be) vs hiring folks with gutter trash world views. What Sega did is perfectly fine, but similarly people's response to capcom is also perfectly fine.Once again. Nothing I'm disagreeing with. But if Capcom gets to fire someone because they have shitty opinions, shouldn't Sega have a right to fire someone for breaking the law?
They don't.Because I think that two threads directly contradict each other.
Because I think that two threads directly contradict each other.
Because I think that two threads directly contradict each other.
So where's the line then? If he sold drugs, would that equate to bad morals?
Currently there aren't any laws that would, let's say, impede people for being anti-LGBT or anti-transpeople. However, it's a moral stance to treat everyone the same regardless of their sexuality. Would you say it's more important that the law is followed and people are allowed their LGBT-phobia or transphobia?But laws are waaaay more important in the society than morals are. You go to prison because of laws but not for the morals...
Lmaoooo. When asked to clarify his statements he's like "nah, i'm too ignorant". Also, this statement is quite telling "Then making up a narrative to serve your clear bias about the #qanon 8chan discussions. "
There's shitty opinions and then there's defending sources of radicalization.OK. This is going to sound like whataboutism. And I swear it's not intentional. I've just been trying to understand what the goal here. Specifically regarding Reuben's shitty opinions. Are people who have shitty opinions not allowed to have jobs? I mean we literally have a thread on the same page where an actor committed a crime and the comments are exact opposite. People are mad at Sega for dropping an actor...
https://www.resetera.com/threads/up...-team-in-the-west.106221/page-2#post-18993871
EDIT: As a disclaimer because I know I will be accused of something. I don't like DMC, I didin't know who this guy was until yesterday, I strongly disagree with pretty much every opinion he has.
What line?So where's the line then? If he sold drugs, would that equate to bad morals?
What does 8chan have to do with any of this? Why would you ever go to bat for that?
My goodness, between this and the THQ Nordic scandal, this year's off to a terrifying start.