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Rockstar grants permission to current devs to talk about company on social media

Hero

Hero

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,948
Muffin said:
Here's a goddamn list for all you disingenious posters saying it's been a decade ago and Rockstar has definitely changed:

https://twitter.com/redlamp/status/1051826119844880384
https://twitter.com/somebadideas/status/1051985753503350785
https://twitter.com/jobjstauffer/status/1052323687829884929
https://twitter.com/Jim936/status/1052166911486844930
https://twitter.com/TernsFawshack/status/1051788954327023616
https://twitter.com/christs_chins/status/1051786981376741377
https://twitter.com/roisiproven/status/1051874718859579398

https://gamerant.com/rockstar-crunch-culture/



Examples from RDR to RDR2 today. Not to mention all the examples from the other thread where the tweets aren't available anymore because the devs were scared of backlash. Stop saying you know for sure Rockstar has changed it practices, you don't know that.

Glassdoor is also full of stuff like this.
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Quoting this for posterity.

dex3108 said:
R* Lincoln dev





https://www.gamesindustry.biz/artic...ester-overtime-is-not-optional-it-is-expected
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Some positive news!
 
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dex3108

dex3108

Member
Oct 26, 2017
22,787
So basically in the end overtimes were normal and paid even in "the worst" part aka QA. This probably is not whole story but it looks like that R* is not worst work place on earth after all.
 
Kaelan

Kaelan

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
2,643
Maryland
Harp said:
I don't think you understand what a strawman is. If Rockstar has clarified and proven that working conditions aren't outrageous, then there's no strawman here- a strawman requires a side to argue in bad faith by making a situation appear weaker than it is, typically through manipulation with zero followup.

Rockstar clarified what they said, then they allowed employees to discuss it, which further proved the case, then they handed over timesheets, which further proved their case. The only strawman here is people saying that conjecture is damning evidence, whereas hard evidence to the contrary disproves that conjecture.

I'm also unclear on why the bad experiences of devs from half a decade plus ago outweigh the good experiences of devs employed now. This is also perplexing to me. You can't just brush the good experiences of devs working there now under the rug by saying they're lying or being held hostage. This is insane. People just want to be outraged over everything.

It's also mindblowing to me how much hypocrisy is brushed under the rug by decrying "whataboutism." If you're going to boycott Rockstar's games over perceived injustices, but keeping playing your PS4 made in a Chinese factory, then you're a fucking hypocrite, and no amount of accusing me of arguing in bad faith is going to change that. Enjoy your smartphone, too, and all of the indie games made by teams of twelve devs working 100+ hours a week with no overtime. Jesus christ.
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Agree 100%. Seems to be a lot of confirmation bias going on
 
Hailinel

Hailinel

Shamed a mod for a tag
Member
Oct 27, 2017
35,527
Zefah said:
We're not actually going to act like QA testers are "devs" are we? I don't mean this as a put down to people working hard in QA or anything, but let's be real here.
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This is insulting.

As a career QA, I've worked in game development and other software industry fields. We may not do coding or design, and the day-to-day interactions that QA has with other members of dev can vary dramatically based on the work environment, but QA is still a dev field. As a full-time QA, my current job has seen me embedded with feature development teams of one stripe or another for years. I'm actively working side-by-side with coders and designers on a daily basis. Don't insult me by saying I'm not actually part of a development organization.
 
Sheepinator

Sheepinator

Member
Jul 25, 2018
28,155
QA testers, expected to work overtime up to a total of 53 hours a week for 2 months, which they were paid for, to ship Rockstar's first game since GTAV five years ago. OMG, the horror. Oh, the humanity. And again, they were paid for those handful of extra hours. This is the "exploitation" so many here were worried about?
 
criesofthepast

criesofthepast

Crash Test Dummy
Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,057
I worked at Rockstar on Max Payne 3 and it was an amazing experience. Seems like some kind of controversy pops up around every Rockstar game release.
 
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