[Rumor] Marvel's Wolverine is planned for 2024, Bend Studio's unannounced project for 2025, according to a professional ArtStation profile
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I think it's deeply naive to believe this studio is putting games out as quickly as they have been due to anything other than a ton of labor abuse. And yet this whole thread's been filled with praise, compliments, and talk of what a great deal Sony got.
And you just know that a year or two from now, when it all gets exposed, everyone here's gonna act surprised at the super obvious thing.
I'm not gonna negate this but 2/3 of the last games they've dropped have reused a ton of assets from a game in 2018. That saves a ton of time.
You are essentially claiming that after Insomniac was purchased by Sony, it was not an expansion of the teams in the studio and resource management that led to their output, but massive labour abuse. Yet no one in three years has said a word, not even an anonymous leak.
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Insomniac's Ted Price: Games studios must break the habit of brute-forcing through problems
Insomniac Games CEO Ted Price wants to see more developers being "creative within constraints" in order to end the cycl…
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Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart Devs Say It Was Created Without Crunch
There's no good reason AAA game development should be inhumane.
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At least from what we know, there doesn't seem to be crunch involved in Insomniac's game development process.
some words were said of the work conditions, but they've been mostly positive so far
Insomniac Dev : "I didn't crunch once. 40h weeks the whole time" when making Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart.
hell yes if it's widespread!
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im more likely to go with schreier on this one
from twitter (in 2020):
There are almost certainly bad elements of working at Insomniac, but I haven't seen much evidence to suggest it is worse than other AAA studios like Naughty Dog or Rockstar. So praising their accomplishments and efficiency doesn't really strike me as an endorsement of bad workplace practices. If anything i suspect treating your workers poorly is counterproductive from an efficiency standpoint
Spider-Man 2 and Wolverine back to back is insane
Watch them release a Ratchet game in 2026 too lol
Watch them release a Ratchet game in 2026 too lol
Let me get this straight, you are claiming a studio is guilty of labor abuse (a heavy allegation) based on the fact that they release games in a timely manner? It cant be that they have several teams within their TWO studios? You are jumping to such a terrible conclusion with no evidence or reason to
Do you have proof? If not, then save your malicious comments for yourself.
Meanwhile, the glassdoor reviews are all like, "Cons: *Euphemism for Crunch*." Or "I never crunch, but...". "And I was never forced to crunch."Insomniac's Ted Price: Games studios must break the habit of brute-forcing through problems
Insomniac Games CEO Ted Price wants to see more developers being "creative within constraints" in order to end the cycl…
Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart Devs Say It Was Created Without Crunch
There's no good reason AAA game development should be inhumane.
At least from what we know, there doesn't seem to be crunch involved in Insomniac's game development process.
We're allowed to use common sense and have an understanding that this practice is extremely common in the industry.
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C'mon people. We're talking about a company that allowed multiple sex predators to carry on with their bullshit within the company for years, without taking action or protecting their (female) employees.
I'm pretty sure folks can come here and sugest that if they allowed that, they can allow much worse.
I'm pretty sure folks can come here and sugest that if they allowed that, they can allow much worse.
I think it's absolutely possible that a studio like Insomniac is anti-crunch and shitty work environments, and having never worked there I'm not about to make judgements either way.
But I'm also not about to make a judgement based on a string of PR puff piece interviews with a studio owner and a couple of tweets from the odd staff member.
But I'm also not about to make a judgement based on a string of PR puff piece interviews with a studio owner and a couple of tweets from the odd staff member.
Burning out the employees every project wouldn't make Insomniac more efficient, any time "saved" would be lost by lots of people leaving and new people needing to be taught the tools (and also management almost definitely missed the deadlines for the last project too). They maybe just have good project management as crazy as that sounds.
Them doubling down on remote work leads me to believe that even more.
Them doubling down on remote work leads me to believe that even more.
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Anything is possible, the games industry in general isn't great for that. I just feel we would have heard something from Bloomberg by now. I put Insomniac in the same boat as studios like RGG for Yakuza. There is a lot of smart asset re-use, and they also work within certain limitations. What I mean by that is their games are never these massive sprawling epics that are trying to change gaming. They are focused on just releasing fun quality content that tends to be on the shorter side for modern gaming (Miles, Ratchet and Clank, etc etc). Even Spider-man 2 is a reasonably quick platinum.
Obsidian is the same really; they release a lot of games. And much like Insomniac, they work within certain limitations that they impose on themselves just due to good management.
There are plenty of studios that release games at a fast clip. As far as I am aware, the team that did Wolverine is the one that did Miles, so four years isn't that crazy.
what if part of the game takes place in new york? if thats the case they can use the same map like they did for miles and spiderman 2 cutting development. wouldnt surprise me if they use attack animations and things from spiderman in wolverine. . I can see it being 2024 but i think 2025. I dont believe a lot of these rumors
You´re making a serious allegation (labor abuse) based on their output, which you are in no position to make unless you worked for them yourself or have insight from various employees who have worked for them. That should be common sense.
At least one of the main reasons behind Insomniac's fast output is their multi-team studio. A lot of PS Studios' seem to handle main dev work of 1-2 games at a time, while Insomniac as a dual-team studio can hand maybe handle the main workload of 2-3 games at a time. For example, the primary and secondary teams were both working on Rift Apart while at the same time while dev'ing Spider-man 2 & Miles Morales (the secondary team was probably also working on Wolverine at the same time).
Also, they're highly efficient with assets and optimization. Why would you only use the portal concept in one game?
Also, they're highly efficient with assets and optimization. Why would you only use the portal concept in one game?
im actually coming back around on it
it reminds me of those horny shitpost copypastas with all the emojis
I figured 2024 made sense because Sony has very little else announced.
Insomniac are possibly the most valuable studio right now. Rockstar does gangbusters but Insomniac is able to put out more games.
Insomniac are possibly the most valuable studio right now. Rockstar does gangbusters but Insomniac is able to put out more games.
Of course the game is made with deep crunch, like all AAA games are made. The main studio might not be doing it (if Jason is to believe), but that doesn't mean it was made with deep crunch.
The thing is, just because the main studio itself didn't crunch does not mean the game wasn't made without crunch.. A lot of these external support studios that help make these big games are from all over the world, especially in Asia and South America, where employees had to struggle with difficult conditions.
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Insomniac is know as a less crunch style studio, but I definitely understand not believing it. It seems like it's just how this stuff works.
Well unless that's revealed to us at some point I'll refrain from making any assumptions. They're a solid studio when it comes to output but I don't think it's as impressive as some people think despite enjoying the games. Most AAA studios are split into teams these days.
I do think making Spider-Man games benefited them largely since those games all take place in the same setting. They've been able to build on top of Spider-Man 2018 for 5 years now (even more if you count the development of the game itself). That allowed them to release Miles Morales, Spider-Man Remastered, and Spider-Man 2.
So I don't really see them as that more efficient than any other high calibur dev. If they had to make 3-4 completely different games I don't they would have been able to hit the same marks. Obviously A Rift Apart is excluded in this since it's totally separate from Spidey.
Bend Studio's unannounced project potentially has a sci-fi setting
Bend game might be Sci Fi
Sci Fi could be Wolverine too tbh.
The teaser heavily implied its set in Madripoor which in MCU looked something very cyberpunky Madripoor.
Plus some easter egg on another Insomniac game
Sci Fi could be Wolverine too tbh.
The teaser heavily implied its set in Madripoor which in MCU looked something very cyberpunky Madripoor.
Plus some easter egg on another Insomniac game
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This would be great news for me personally. Like the setting and PS Studios hasn't many games that play in it.Bend game might be Sci Fi
Sci Fi could be Wolverine too tbh.
The teaser heavily implied its set in Madripoor which in MCU looked something very cyberpunky Madripoor.
Plus some easter egg on another Insomniac game
Ngl, I would be a little salty if Bend is doing cyberpunk before ND lol
I would say Wolverine will be a game who takes much more development time than Spider-Man/Ratchet&Clank because Insomniac don't have any assets for this game already done, but who knows, they have launch Ratchet & Clank remake in 2016 and the first Spider-Man just two years later.
Honestly If Wolverine, DS2, Heeldivers 2, Concord and Gow spin off are all planned for 2024, plus Rise of ronin, Stellar blade, SH2 remake, Ff7 rebirth etc.. that's an amazing year for PS5