It's so fucking depressing to wake up to this. I've said it a hundred times, but the world will be a better place the day Putin dies.
Everything here is more than reasonable, let's fucking go.
Everything here is more than reasonable, let's fucking go.
Thank goodness! I thought she had left the country, not just Kyiv.
Watching the tanks just cruise down the street through the border crossing into Ukraine was surreal, like there weren't any attempts to barricade or anything. I suppose their defense were just further inland though
If Putin is willing to kill western troops in an offensive capacity in a war of his own aggression then it's just a matter of time before he would go to war with us anyways.
Putin’s Aggression Against Ukraine Deals a Blow to China’s Hopes for Taiwan
China’s support for Russia risks working against its desire to bring Taiwan under its control.
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They are definitely in a watch and see mode.
God damn, I can't imagine how awful it is for folk in Ukraine atm. It seems like everything is going to shit across the world. Hope something good happens soon and Ukraine ends up alright in the end
It's absolutely disgusting that that soulless monster has been allowed to do this and is hell bent on wiping out Ukraine as we know it. A bullet would be too good for Putin, and would no doubt only galvanise people behind his image, but this monster deserves everything that's coming to him.
My thoughts are with those in Ukraine, stay safe and take care of one another.
So realistically, beyond sanctions from the wider world, what else can be done? Putting seems very aware of NATO being on standby but is no doubt prepared for that eventuality which will allow him to look beyond Ukraine's borders into other European countries. So military assistance seems like it would just end in a full blown world war (China have been very vocal about their support of Russia and pushed back against any force against them from Western powers in the past, so a deadly combo should anything wider play out).
Is sanctions the best that can be done? If, as Sergei Lavrov said, the Russians have gotten used to sanctions will this genuinely impact them then? From what I understand their economy is in dire straits and Putin doesn't have great approval ratings (not that that's ever stopped him winning votes) so maybe I just don't understand the full picture but surely sanctions will do little in the grand scheme of things.
Obviously supplying military aid, defenses and humanitarian aid is a must but there does need to be something strong done to stop Putin and his megalomania in its place.
My thoughts are with those in Ukraine, stay safe and take care of one another.
So realistically, beyond sanctions from the wider world, what else can be done? Putting seems very aware of NATO being on standby but is no doubt prepared for that eventuality which will allow him to look beyond Ukraine's borders into other European countries. So military assistance seems like it would just end in a full blown world war (China have been very vocal about their support of Russia and pushed back against any force against them from Western powers in the past, so a deadly combo should anything wider play out).
Is sanctions the best that can be done? If, as Sergei Lavrov said, the Russians have gotten used to sanctions will this genuinely impact them then? From what I understand their economy is in dire straits and Putin doesn't have great approval ratings (not that that's ever stopped him winning votes) so maybe I just don't understand the full picture but surely sanctions will do little in the grand scheme of things.
Obviously supplying military aid, defenses and humanitarian aid is a must but there does need to be something strong done to stop Putin and his megalomania in its place.
There was little/no activity by Ukrainan military as far as I know - which puts into stark context the idea that Russia was doing this 'in repsonse to calls from the rebels to protect them from Ukrainan aggression' - there wasn't any so its so unbeliveably bullshit it'd be funny if it wasn't so tragic.
He is not going to start a war he can't win, but he might take a gamble that no one is willing to risk nuclear war by attacking him.
But it doesn't matter at this point. The thing left to do is to stand together and hit Russia with all the non-military "weapons" we got.
In all honesty I think Xi is really pissed off by Putin's actions as this draws more attention to Taiwan which Xi won't really want. I think this has been mentioned by others also.
My thoughts and feelings as well atm. This is all very hard to believe right now.
Ukraine has almost 8 years of fighting the Russians now and their proxies, so they probably are setting up what is most advantageous to them right now (not the border...). Also, since the US/NATO poured intel on them, they knew the force dispositions probably as well as the Russians knew of their own.
at this stage do the actions line up with solely annexing the east - with the wider attacks being focused in military infrastructure? Is there a hope Russia stops there? why they felt the need to attack across the country if they only aimed to annex - didn't think they'd be able to pull it off without Ukranian response maybe but this is such a big escalation if they don't aim for full occupation..
Genuine thought, not trivialising or anything: I imagine Eurovision will be called off this year.
Are the people in Russia just content with what's happening right now? Can't they do anything there, protest or something :(
Well they're probably observing the reaction by the west / rest of the world, putting in notes for their own eventual confrontation with Taiwan.
And now we can officially put the bullshit idea to rest, that Russia was only attacking military facilities. The desth toll will be catastrophic from this, we can't let them get away with it.
Not gonna lie, it's hard to focus on work right now. This whole thing is just both scary and heartbreaking.
Never would have imagined to see full scale assault from Russia into Ukraine. Hopefully EU is already working on a plan to take in Ukrainian refugees. We can't have same shit show we did back in 2015.
How effective were people in the US at stopping the US invasion of Iraq? Regular citizens don't have that kind of influence over government. Years of sustained protest didn't end the Vietnam War either.
one of my lifelong friends here in germany is ukrainian with family and friends there and she is in tears
putin is a fucking evil bastard
putin is a fucking evil bastard
This is "forcing Ukraine to peace", Geargia-style,. but much grander scale..
The stated goal is "demilitarization and denazification"- so, regime change, and probably excessive repressions against anyone pro-Ukrainian.
This "pacification" would require occupation. Which is something that's gonna cost them dearly.
They want Russia to get away with it because they want to do the same thing with Taiwan and Honk Kong (years before Honk Kong was supposed to rejoin Beijing's government).
I really have to go to bed but someone posted links in the other thread. I'm quoting you for more visibility on this so someone else can help you.
Can the US rally the rest of the world against this? China might be hard (although would be great to have them against this), but even getting all the nuclear powers against this would be good (India, Pakistan, China).
Your fears are way past realized, unless apartment buildings are critical Ukrainian military infrastructure.
China supports this and will work with Russia to undermine western interests wherever possible. They want to run the same playbook on Taiwan.
They will try from a sanctions point of view, but India have already made their position clear (sitting on the fence), and not a peep out of Pakistan and China.
USSR walked away with sizeable Finnish territory.Possibly PTSD from the last time they tryed.
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Yeah it's 1:53am, an I am very alert right now. Still got work at 9 though
Actually, if this goes as terrible as many are predicting, it wouldn't surprise me if Taiwan received a lot more deterrence support, so it does not happen. China is probably pissed because they are probably still several years away from even thinking about this decision.