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Sam Raimi's Spider-Man Trilogy - Worse Than You Remember
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I liked Spider-Man 2, but after a while, I kinda agree with some of the flaws Martin talked about on Double Toasted:
Nah the cheese and the tone is deliberate and Riami nailed that. 1 is a little tootentative but 2 is perfect and is where they perfectly balanced the humour, action, cheese and serious elements. 2 is top tier GOAT CBM.
3 definately gets messy with too much going on and a shoehorned in venom but it's still a lot of fun.
Personally I'd still position most of the trilogy ahead of recent CBMs and neither MCU or DCEU has produced anything as tonslly and consistent good as SM2.
3 definately gets messy with too much going on and a shoehorned in venom but it's still a lot of fun.
Personally I'd still position most of the trilogy ahead of recent CBMs and neither MCU or DCEU has produced anything as tonslly and consistent good as SM2.
yep been in the spider man 1 > spider man 2 camp for a while
in fact you can see spider man 3 coming from a mile away with spider man 2
Can y'all motherfuckers just enjoy Homecoming and leave our shit alone.
Y'all got the "accurate" Spider-Man you always wanted.
And the rest of us got a GOAT superhero movie 14 years ago.
I was never crazy about Spider-Man 1 as a kid and 3 while a total mess, has some great moments so I'll give it that, but when you come after 2, we got a problem.
You know why this is so funny, because the movie wasn't doing it every 2 minutes to compensate for lack of character development.
Y'all got the "accurate" Spider-Man you always wanted.
And the rest of us got a GOAT superhero movie 14 years ago.
I was never crazy about Spider-Man 1 as a kid and 3 while a total mess, has some great moments so I'll give it that, but when you come after 2, we got a problem.
You know why this is so funny, because the movie wasn't doing it every 2 minutes to compensate for lack of character development.
Maybe don't be such a dick about it? You can like one thing without shitting on another. It's possible. No one is harming or taking your precious movie away from you.
I'm being hyperbolic and don't care to clarify my tone everytime someone takes it the wrong way. Not to mention, I didn't shit on anything so you're just adding that.
Can't watch at work but I'd like to see the arguments against 2. It's still one of the best comic book movies of all time IMO.
Yeah I love this vid by CBG.
Yeah I love this vid by CBG.
I honestly don't have fond memories for Raimi's Spider-Man movies at all.
Found SM1 and 2 competent but not-in-a-good/charming-way cheesy. I don't think Tobey played a good Peter/Spidey, and really didn't like Dunst in the MJ role. Heard SM3 was trash shortly after release so I didn't bother watching it.
I honestly liked ASM1 marginally better than either Raimi film I saw. Not by a whole bunch, but it was better. Spider-Man Homecoming is honestly the best of the bunch by a decent margin, but it's still not a perfect film: I don't like that MR. STARK MR. STARK MR. STARK MR. STARK MR. STARK was such a prevalent presence in the film, and that the suit was basically Iron Man feat. Siri. The Spider-Man IP needs way more breathing room within the MCU, but since he came in so late and Marvel Studios wanted him in for that sweet sweet crossover cash as soon as possible, he got shoved into the larger universe at a breakneck pace and he doesn't have much of an identity yet IMO. I hope Far From Home rectifies that.
Found SM1 and 2 competent but not-in-a-good/charming-way cheesy. I don't think Tobey played a good Peter/Spidey, and really didn't like Dunst in the MJ role. Heard SM3 was trash shortly after release so I didn't bother watching it.
I honestly liked ASM1 marginally better than either Raimi film I saw. Not by a whole bunch, but it was better. Spider-Man Homecoming is honestly the best of the bunch by a decent margin, but it's still not a perfect film: I don't like that MR. STARK MR. STARK MR. STARK MR. STARK MR. STARK was such a prevalent presence in the film, and that the suit was basically Iron Man feat. Siri. The Spider-Man IP needs way more breathing room within the MCU, but since he came in so late and Marvel Studios wanted him in for that sweet sweet crossover cash as soon as possible, he got shoved into the larger universe at a breakneck pace and he doesn't have much of an identity yet IMO. I hope Far From Home rectifies that.
All of that was my issue with Homecoming, that and I felt like the character regressed so much from where we found him in Civil War and it was like, do I really have to watch this whole movie to wait for him to get the perspective he ALREADY had before any of this started?
1 sucks, 3 is okay (a terrible mess with great action akin to a trainwreck you can't pull away from to make an analogue for it), 2 is probably the best at being a sweeping and classical film, moreso than any other adaptation starring the character.
That's shitting on something?
That's a low bar.
THIS is shitting on something, and I don't even think it's that mean. Or is it because it because you inferred a diss on the movie YOU liked?
I liked both movies actually, I just found the post where you make a slight dig at one film after saying can't others leave something alone funny.
We went from "shitting on" to "slight dig". We're done here.
Shitting on something can also be a slight dig it doesn't have to be a massive dump, but you do you.
Im sorry but they're just perfect to me.
Even 3 is great outside of the bar scene, and venom could have looked better.
Nothing wrong with some good Ole American cheese
Even 3 is great outside of the bar scene, and venom could have looked better.
Nothing wrong with some good Ole American cheese
spider-man 2. a movie about a guy trying to juggle his school life, work live, love life, friendships, and being a super hero. and he can't do it. the film takes us through a journey of parker failing in every aspect of his life as being a superhero weights down on him. so he quits the superhero part and the rest of his life improves, dramatically. the movie is fantastic.
I think Spiderman 1 would hold up better if it wasn't for that green goblin costume, it looks too silly.
The melodrama is the only part of the trilogy I find unbearable. I love the implausible cheese/corniness and the action is still very well choreographed.
I like Spiderman 2 *despite* Toby's performance as Sad Sack Peter, not because of it. I think that middle to end part of the movie where he's down in the dumps drags on for far too long and probably could've been shot better.
I enjoyed them all back then, and recently rewatched most of the first one. It's a bit cheesy, but still good. Haven't seen the second one in years, but always preferred the first.
I'm not going to die on a hill defending the third, because it's nothing special, but I never thought it deserved all of the hate it got.
I'm not going to die on a hill defending the third, because it's nothing special, but I never thought it deserved all of the hate it got.
That's a weird response.
He's right that the video's wrong, ofcourse, but isn't the Cosmonout guy black?
Nah, humans are worse than I remember. These movies are awesome. Even 3 is better than the two amazing spidermen
You're all entitled to your opinions that AMS1/2 and Homecoming are better movies than the Spider-Man 1/2..
...but neither reboot holds a candle to this shit:
...but neither reboot holds a candle to this shit:
One of these rare moments where we agree.
The majority of MCU films feel like they come off an assembly line without barely any remaining imprint left of the director, the few exceptions being Gunn's Guardians films. Meanwhile, Raimi-Man are true auteur films brimming with his particular vision, style, and heart. Spider-Man 2 is the goddamn peak and just masterclass filmmaking that not only is a great superhero film but an ode to classic Hollywood cinema itself.
Marcus and I disagree here, but he gonna have to slap Bob for that white nonsense.
Did he give up on the Really That Good series? Has there been once since he did the "Really that Bad" quadrillogy for Batman v. Superman?
Dafoe is what holds one up, but I'm just not crazy about the movie as a whole. The high school scenes, Bonesaw, the fight at the parade, just eh ..., but it's got a lot of heart and there is a lot to admire.
Also, I LOVE awkward dinner scenes, but that was TOO awkward.
This is also my dilemma.
Don't drive by post my thread and my prime example is some YouTube opinion is weak.
I re watched the trilogy recently and I still like them, Raimis brand of camp is good with me and I like it. I like Toby, I like the villains and the action scenes are fun and easy to follow. The first one is largely under appreciated and came out at the perfect time.
Also the GOAT version of JJJ
Eh, if you're talking about the video the op. That person got a lot wrong and misrepresented the movie greatly. I took it in stride and not as an insulting critique, but do yourself a favor & don't base your opinion entirely on that video.
It's been a while since I saw all three films. I don't think I've even seen 1 in one full sitting, which I'd like to do.
But from what I do recall 2 is legit great though, and 3 while it's definitely flawed still has some cool and funny moments.
Haven't seen the ASM films or Homecoming yet.
holy shit i'm so done lmao
But from what I do recall 2 is legit great though, and 3 while it's definitely flawed still has some cool and funny moments.
Haven't seen the ASM films or Homecoming yet.
holy shit i'm so done lmao