Same-sex marriage around the world as of January 2023

[Magister Xehanort]

I noticed that many people don't know which countries same-sex marriage is legal. So here is a map about it:

r/MapPorn - Same-sex marriage around the world as of January 2023

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[Lightning Count]

There are still so many places I will never set foot in because they will kill me for not being straight.

 

[Xando]

I admit i'm kinda ignorant on this topic but i expected there'd be more countries in asia (especially japan and korea)

 

[Edmond Dantès]

Glacial progress, but progress nonetheless. There's still a very long way to go.

 

[GYODX]

Lots of good progress in Latin America.

The entirety of Asia (with the exception of Taiwan) being grey is crazy to me. Taiwan stays winning, of course.

 

[thesoapster]

Good going, Taiwan! It does look a little lonely in this context, haha.

 

[Tuck]

I admit i'm kinda ignorant on this topic but i expected there'd be more countries in asia (especially japan and korea)

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Yeah it's a bummer. Would like to see more progress from them

 

[DiipuSurotu]

So, gays are more welcome in Antarctica than in Japan and South Korea

 

[Superking]

wait, japan doesn't have legalized same sex marriage? i mean, i know they haven't for a long time, but i thought they recently did?

 

[Ensorcell]

Yeah, more of the world's population live in places that don't allow it than do.

Makes me sad and mad.

 

[DiipuSurotu]

wait, japan doesn't have legalized same sex marriage? i mean, i know they haven't for a long time, but i thought they recently did?

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Nope. Some cities recognize "civil unions", but not nationwide and not marriage. Also, only 40% of Japanese people are for legalizing same-sex marriage.

 

[Aaron]

Nope. Some cities recognize "civil unions", but not nationwide and not marriage. Also, only 40% of Japanese people are for legalizing same-sex marriage.

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Japan's resistance to liberalizing LGBT+ rights is interesting because (from a completely ignorant outsider's perspective, mind you) it doesn't seem to stem from the same fire and brimstone kind of bigotry that most of the Western world has to deal with, but rather just adherence to tradition and distaste for anything outside the cultural norm. A unique strand of judgmental tolerance, in the strict definition of "tolerance."

 

[Aiqops]

Nope. Some cities recognize "civil unions", but not nationwide and not marriage. Also, only 40% of Japanese people are for legalizing same-sex marriage.

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Sucks. But I guess to be expected with their population skewing so old.

 

[Poltergust]

I admit i'm kinda ignorant on this topic but i expected there'd be more countries in asia (especially japan and korea)

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Japan upheld a ban on it last year, even though I think by now the majority (or at least a plurality) of the population is for it. Extremely disappointing.

 

[Squarehard]

The map in the other thread is better, and brings about deeper conversations on this topic.

Slovenia becomes the first Eastern European country to recognize same-sex marriage News

https://twitter.com/PinkNews/status/1621131438899998722 Where is same-sex marriage legal in the world? (Slovenia is dark blue now)

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[KeyBladerXIII]

South Africa and Taiwan really isolated out there.

 

[supremeplatypus]

Most of Asia sees cannabis as some killer drug and makes up evidence to support their assertions (looking at you Singapore) so Asian countries being extremely conservative against anything that doesn't match established societal norms isn't surprising.

 

[Kurita]

Japan's resistance to liberalizing LGBT+ rights is interesting because (from a completely ignorant outsider's perspective, mind you) it doesn't seem to stem from the same fire and brimstone kind of bigotry that most of the Western world has to deal with, but rather just adherence to tradition and distaste for anything outside the cultural norm. A unique strand of judgmental tolerance, in the strict definition of "tolerance."

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There's definitely bigotry at play too.

As seen this week

Kishida fires senior aide over homophobic comments

Masayoshi Arai, the now-dismissed executive secretary to the prime minister, said he would "not want to live next door" to an LGBT couple.

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[Magister Xehanort]

Talking about Japan, this news came out today:

The Japanese prime minister, Fumio Kishida, has sacked an aide who said he would not want to live next to LGBTQ+ couples and that people would flee Japan if same-sex marriage was permitted.

In remarks reported by local media, Masayoshi Arai, an economy and trade official who joined Kishida's staff as a secretary in October, said he did not even want to look at same-sex couples.

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"His comments are outrageous and completely incompatible with the administration's policies," Kishida said on Saturday, in remarks aired by the public broadcaster NHK.

Speaking to reporters later in the day, the leader said he had dismissed Arai, who had earlier apologised for "misleading" comments he made on Friday.

Arai had made the remarks after Kishida said in parliament that same-sex marriage needed careful consideration because of its potential impact on the family structure.

The incident is an embarrassment for Kishida as he prepares to host the leaders of the other G7 countries in May. Unlike Japan, which has been ruled by the conservative Liberal Democratic party for most of the past seven decades, the rest of the G7 allow marriage or civil unions for same-sex couples.

According to recent opinion polls, Kishida's public support has halved to about 30% since last year after a series of scandal-tainted resignations by senior officials.

Among those who stepped down was Mio Sugita, an internal affairs and communications vice-minister, who quit in December over controversial comments about LGBTQ+ people and Japan's Indigenous Ainu people.

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In a survey published by NHK in July 2021, two months before Kishida became prime minister, 57% of 1,508 respondents said they supported the legal recognition of same-sex unions.

Because they are not allowed to marry, same-sex couples cannot inherit each other's assets and are denied parental rights to each other's children.

In November, a Tokyo court upheld a ban on same-sex marriage, but said a lack of legal protection for same-sex families violated their human rights.

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Japanese prime minister fires aide over anti-LGBTQ+ remarks

Fumio Kishida says official’s comments ‘outrageous and completely incompatible with policies’

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Compared to the others in east Asia(China & South Korea), Japan is much more accepting of LGBT culture. I can totally imagine Japan legalizing gay marraige nationwide within the decade if the right people get elected. Some jurisdictions already allow "civil unions" of some sort. LGBT are allowed to serve in the military while in Korea you can be jailed for years then kicked out. Japan even has antidiscrimination laws in certain cities(Tokyo) which is a start while Korea/China have none.

 

[Bengraven]

wait, japan doesn't have legalized same sex marriage? i mean, i know they haven't for a long time, but i thought they recently did?

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It's always so bittersweet when you read LGTBQ+ manga that is supposed to have a happy married ending but the marriage always happens "sometime in the future". Like they're hopeful someday but you can't do it yet.

Some just say fuck it and let them get married anyway because the law is fucking stupid and this is their world and their laws.

 

[Roytheone]

That chart made me realize that in 2 years we will be the first country to celebrate 25 years of gay marriage. I wonder if any activities are planned to celebrate that fact.

 

[super-famicom]

I admit i'm kinda ignorant on this topic but i expected there'd be more countries in asia (especially japan and korea)

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Nah, unfortunately Japan is way behind in issues like this.

 

[Lexxism]

I admit i'm kinda ignorant on this topic but i expected there'd be more countries in asia (especially japan and korea)

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From a western point of view, yes. But if you're coming from an Asian countries, it's not really surprising those greyed maps in Asia.

 

[Rangerx]

It was an absolute honour and privilege to be the first country(Ireland) on the planet to afford equal rights by popular vote to my gay brothers and sisters on marriage equality. Especially considering the history we have with the Catholic church. Why someone wants to do deny this right to two people who love each other is beyond me. It brings nothing but joy to the world.

 

[madstarr12]

Africa and Asia are very disappointing.

 

[DiipuSurotu]

Africa and Asia are very disappointing.

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But sadly not surprising in the case of Africa, especially in the North and Northeast

 

[Supreme Bean]

Africa is very anti gay.

 

[btkadams]

There are still so many places I will never set foot in because they will kill me for not being straight.

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❤️ I feel you. It's awful.

 

[shintoki]

Africa and Asia looking like the odd man out.

 

[loco]

Japan's resistance to liberalizing LGBT+ rights is interesting because (from a completely ignorant outsider's perspective, mind you) it doesn't seem to stem from the same fire and brimstone kind of bigotry that most of the Western world has to deal with, but rather just adherence to tradition and distaste for anything outside the cultural norm. A unique strand of judgmental tolerance, in the strict definition of "tolerance."

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Interesting. My coworker was born in Japan as well as his father but are of Korean decent. Neither are Japanese citizens and Japanese is their first language although Japan is all they have ever known. It's the same tradition shit

 

[Dice]

Shouldn't even be a question, it's a waste of time and everyone deserves love (and or to be crushed by it lol 😢). Hopefully it spreads faster and faster the more that it gets recognized.

 

[Deleted member 3208]

Actually quite surprised many places in Latin America have same-sex marriage. Of course, Central America continues being a shithole (except Costa Rica).

 

[Soap]

I remember reading a thread on gaming side where Nintendo said they support same-sex marriage even if Japan doesn't, which made me think highly of them (well as highly of them as you can for a publicly traded company).

Found a link: https://kotaku.com/nintendo-japan-s...utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_source=twitter

 

[The Emperor]

Africa and Asia looking like the odd man out.

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Yeah unfortunately
But what makes this worse is if you count population affected that's where the majority of the world pop is at. 75% i think of the worlds pop is africa +asia.

Lots of peoples rights being impacted on :(

 

[Sordid Plebeian]

Crazy to think how behind so many people still are

 

[lexony]

Crazy to think how behind so many people still are

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It's not like almost all western countries were much better not even a decade ago.

 

[DiipuSurotu]

Africa and Asia looking like the odd man out.

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Yeah unfortunately
But what makes this worse is if you count population affected that's where the majority of the world pop is at. 75% i think of the worlds pop is africa +asia.

Lots of peoples rights being impacted on :(

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Yeah I was gonna say, it's not "Africa and Asia" but the rest of the world that's the odd man out

 

[DiipuSurotu]

It's not like almost all western countries were much better not even a decade ago.

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I would say not having death penalty for homosexuality qualified as "much better", but that's just my opinion

 

[Encephalon]

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[lexony]

I would say not having death penalty for homosexuality qualified as "much better", but that's just my opinion

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I mean yeah many places are very far behind. But it's not like that on all those gray space gays are not accepted and it was similar in the west a few decades ago. I mean it's still a huge issue around the world but it's going in the right direction at many places, even in some asian countries.

 

[thisismadness]

Wow that map is shocking and depressing

 

[Sordid Plebeian]

It's not like almost all western countries were much better not even a decade ago.

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The West is included there, we still have conservative Senators and Supreme Court justices who have voiced their disapproval to gay marriage.

 

[Paroni]

Japan's resistance to liberalizing LGBT+ rights is interesting because (from a completely ignorant outsider's perspective, mind you) it doesn't seem to stem from the same fire and brimstone kind of bigotry that most of the Western world has to deal with, but rather just adherence to tradition and distaste for anything outside the cultural norm. A unique strand of judgmental tolerance, in the strict definition of "tolerance."

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It's unfortunately not that uncommon that traditionalists in non-western countries equate gay rights with "western influence". It's also an angle that Russia has pushed a lot in their propaganda directed to those countries as Kreml tries to build connections with anti-western nationalists worldwide.

 

[Sabretooth]

India's making some progress in the courts thanks to the dogged determination of activists (and despite the objections by the central government), where the plea for same-sex marriage will be heard in March, after the government's response on Feb 15 (which will almost certainly be a resounding no).

I'd typically be pessimistic, but then the supreme court did decriminalise homosexuality, so I like to believe anything's possible. The real question is whether we'll get a ruling this year or in 10 years, given the pace of Indian courts.

 

[Hollywood Duo]

Moving in the right direction but still so much work left to be done.

 

[lexony]

The West is included there, we still have conservative Senators and Supreme Court justices who have voiced their disapproval to gay marriage.

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Was only referring to that this map dosen't show the full picture. And yes the west isn't much better, even though many places accept gay marriage there are countless other LGBT rights that need to be addressed like discrimination protections.

 

[Sunster]

I admit i'm kinda ignorant on this topic but i expected there'd be more countries in asia (especially japan and korea)

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Japan is famously conservative.

 

[Cjdamon042]

I often find it hilarious (read infuriating) how something so mundane and basic as who someone is attracted to and falls in love with is even a topic up for debate. The fact that I can be locked up or killed in certain countries for something out of my control which, again, is so harmless and doesn't affect anyone, is wild. Like for real, whogivesashit.gif

There's progress which is nice but there's still a lot of work to do, as well as ensuring that we don't go backwards which is depressingly possible.

 

[anamika]

Africa and Asia looking like the odd man out.

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Reminder that in many of these countries homophobic laws are the legacy of British colonialism.
377: The British colonial law that left an anti-LGBTQ legacy in Asia
How Britain's colonial legacy still affects LGBT politics around the world

This Alien Legacy

This 66-page report describes how laws in over three dozen countries, from India to Uganda and from Nigeria to Papua New Guinea, derive from a single law on homosexual conduct that British colonial rulers imposed on India in 1860. This year, the High Court in Delhi ended hearings in a years-long...

www.hrw.org

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/09/11/asia/british-empire-lgbt-rights-section-377-intl/index.html

It was the British who introduced their Christian laws against homosexuality into their colonies, then looted and destroyed these countries, took away their education and reduced them to poverty. And while the West got to progress and develop with their stolen loot and progress in society, Asia and Africa still has a ways to go to recover from that destruction inflicted on them.

This information should probably be in the OP to give context on the disparity.

Hopefully LGBTQ+ rights in these countries happens in my lifetime however, the religious grip on politics is also increasing in countries, so I don't know.

 

[Gentlemen]

To this day evangelical churches travel to Africa where they lobby for fundamentalist legislation that criminalizes the existence of gay and lesbian citizens. The hateful, murderous legacy of old colonialism lives on.