Saucycarpdog

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Supreme Court to decide Trump’s immunity claim in election interference case

Even if the justices ultimately rule against Trump, the court’s intervention adds a further delay, meaning his trial will not start for weeks, if not months.
The Supreme Court on Wednesday agreed to decide whether former President Donald Trump can claim presidential immunity over criminal election interference charges, adding a new hurdle to a trial taking place.

The court in a brief order said it would hear arguments and issue a ruling on the immunity claim. In the meantime, the case is on hold, meaning no trial can take place.
 

PlanetSmasher

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This is insane. They're just going to roll over and rule in favor of him. Why are they allowed to do this?
 

DrForester

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I fully expect them to rule he's got full immunity, and to be narrow enough in their ruling that it only applies to republican presidents.
 
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Sky Chief

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There should be mass protests in the streets tomorrow but there won't be because this country is too far gone
 
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I fully expect them to rule he's got full immunity, and to specify that it only applies to republican presidents.

good news is biden can just fucking shoot trump in the stomach with a 12 gauge if the potus is immune from crimes committed during office. at this point in this hypothetical scotus might not even care about trump/biden in particular and want the anarchy since republicans are generally much more violent than democrats and independents when it comes to politics.
 
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yami4ct

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Even if you think SCOTUS isn't trying to flat out delay here, and I think that's a legitimate question, this was always going to trial. There's zero way they were gonna let such a major question of law go without a full ruling from the top.
 

Tfritz

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most of the conservative ghouls on the court have some instinct of self-preservation and understand the rammies of a president having blanket immunity, and, perhaps more importantly for them, understand it would reduce the power of their positions, and girlies in power do not like to cede their power.
 

DeadlyVenom

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The Supreme Court wants to have the final word on Presidential Immunity, that is not surprising to me in the slightest.

No, they are not going to rule that Trump can do whatever he wants. Don't be a fucking weirdo.
 

Thalanil

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Jesus, that's crazy, they put it in on hold too with a stay too(they could have heard it without stay). Fully expect them to slow walk it to delay the trial post election.

DC district court decision against immunity was unanimous and pretty watertight too, the decision to hear it seems against the norms.
 

turtle553

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The only way this makes sense is if they rule he's ineligible in the Colorado case and trial schedule is less important. But I'm not holding my breath.
 

Thordinson

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Almost certainly not, but the point isn't to grant Trump immunity, it's to delay the DC case by several more months to potentially prevent a conviction from landing before the election

They can easily prevent it from happening before the election if they want to. They can always reorder arguments.
 

Palette Swap

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I can't imagine that they'd rule him immune, if only because of the precedent it would set. That sounds more like stalling by a political body that should have no legitimacy.
 
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Doomers validated right now, until proven otherwise.

I legit want to eat crow, please.

? not at all. trump is still likely to lose the election at this point in time. in fact anyone hoping this scotus was not going to not hear this case is ridiculous imo.

trump likely needs to lose wholly and legally again, without the courts (granting him special treatment and such or otherwise). probably the best for history's sake too but nonstop bullshit and suffering from him while we deal with it in real time.
 

danm999

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realistically this will just clarify if Presidents have immunity for personal purposes, because they absolutely already do for anything deemed vaguely in the interests of the American state
 

Blader

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Jesus, that's crazy, they put it in on hold too with a stay too(they could have heard it without stay). Fully expect them to slow walk it to delay the trial post election.

DC district court decision against immunity was unanimous and pretty watertight too, the decision to hear it seems against the norms.
What's especially galling is Jack Smith appealed for SCOTUS to rule on this *last year*, they kicked it over to DC instead, that court ruled, then Trump appealed to SCOTUS again and this time they sat on it for weeks more. They are dragging this shit out for as long as they can.

The only way this makes sense is if they rule he's ineligible in the Colorado case and trial schedule is less important. But I'm not holding my breath.
They will likely split the baby and rule in his favor in Colorado but against him here.
 
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If they rule that he has presidential immunity, I want Barack Obama to suddenly descend with a sword on him Sephiroth style, and just whisper in his ear, "it goes both ways..."
 

NCR Ranger

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I don't care what anyone says it is clear as day they are just dragging it out for as long as possible probably hoping to push any conviction past when it might matter for the election. Though that is based on the assumption that they are not actually going to rule that presidents are untouchable kings as long as whatever they did was while in office.
 
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Seik

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? not at all. trump is still likely to lose the election at this point in time. in fact anyone hoping this scotus was not going to not hear this case is ridiculous imo.

trump likely needs to lose wholly and legally again, without the courts (granting him special treatment and such or otherwise). probably the best for history's sake too but nonstop bullshit and suffering from him while we deal with it in real time.
I hope you're right and wish that you're right with every single fibers of my being.

Excuse my crippling cynicism.
 
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I hope you're right and wish that you're right.

Excuse my crippling cynicism.

hey no worries, and anything can change as inspiring or scary as that is. no one has a crystal ball. please don't hesitate to dm folks here if the doom gloom gets too heavy!

Speaking of wishful thinking.

It's still early, but Trump has a better than 50% shot as things stand today.

the "two things can happen therefore both are 50% likely" thing isn't true
 

Thordinson

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The ruling will occur at the end of the court's term in June and it will be 9-0 or 8-1 against Trump, but it will have successfully delayed the start of the trial.

The court's term doesn't end in June and they've released opinions in July before.

But if the goal is to simply delay, they would just order new arguments after June/July.
 

Maquiladora

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This is less about the ruling and more about helping Trump by delaying the start of trials for several months.
 

Makoto Yuki

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As other have said, it's just delay tactics. Also the Supreme Court just wants to look big and tough making the final say.
 

zashga

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"When the president does it, that means that it is not illegal."

- Richard Nixon
- Donald Trump
- Brett Kavanaugh, probably
 

digit_zero

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I don't think they will actually rule for him, why this sucks is it delays the trial as others have mentioned. They are entertaining his blatant stall tactics