Sexualized Designs do not equal Bad Designs
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I'm still waiting for games to sexualize older males (50+) that are not muscle guys (even those are rare).
You could make a loose argument that that's what Tekken did once they did the big time jump for T3 and onwards.
They are all muscled in Tekken... except Ganryu, but he is drawn in a hardly sexualized way.
To be fair, 50+ or even 40+ females are rarely sexualized in games.
As the range of gamer's age becomes broader, maybe with time we will get there. Not all 50+ gamers are interested in seeing characters in their 20s with heavily sexualized designs.
Though i would prefer character design in first NieR and Drakengard 1-3. I dunno, something in Automata's style doesn't click with me.
As for MGS5, i'm still angry they didn't give more chance to Paz. Her realistic-style face is so beautiful (while she was more like anime doll in PW), but... yeah i know her story is "important for plot", but she deserves more.
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Chloe isn't an inherently sexualized design, LL proves that, however, in UC2 she is. Again, I said that she isn't the most egregious example of it, but she is an example.
See above.
See above.
Chloe isn't an inherently sexualized design, LL proves that, however, in UC2 she is. Again, I said that she isn't the most egregious example of it, but she is an example.
See above.
See above.
Sexual framing in U2 (i.e. pose and camera work) != inherently sexualized, visual design of a female character
Crossing Eden, I give up. Let's just agree to disagree at this point. You think she's sexualized in U2. I disagree.
At least we can both agree that in no way is Chloe in U2 an example of female objectification or a design that disrespects women (... or at least I hope we can agree on this... whelp!).
I think the problem most people are having is that are standards of sexualized female characters are so low, that Chole looks normal. I do agree that UC2, she is definitely built to be a sexualized design to contrast the other love interest...whose name escapes me right now.
Yea Chloe is a more easily digestible form of it.
A reminder that there's literally an exact type of scene with Elena and Sully in not only the same game but other UC games as well, (Nate even makes a similar joke to Elena), and it's not as egregious because her design isn't sexualized at all. Further emphasizing the contrast between good girl white picket fence Elena and sensual sexy shady thief Chloe. I don't even think Chloe is a bad design. Or completely objectified because she gets a hell of a lot more personality beyond the fact that she's forward in UC2, (seemed like they had no idea what to do with her character in UC3 tho), and is fleshed out way WAY more in her own game.
Lol, you just reminded me that Chloe was even in U3... I didn't even remember her being in that game outside of the MP :-P
It's like they hit a dead end with her since she was supposed to be a love interest for Drake and that got resolved in the same game. Why I admire just how compelling she was in LL.
Thank you, I haven't played Uncharted for a while now (I still haven't played 4 + LL thanks to me traveling all the time this year).
I think he's 26 or 24 according to a Smash Bros trophy.
Edit: I'm wrong. Miyamoto flat out said he's 24.
Blow the hatch and climb into the AI pod!
On a serious note.
Quiet's design in MGS V sucks. Actually wait, her XOF uniform design is good - her bikini wearing design sucks.
They're not sexualized but there're handsome none muscular old men in Atelier serie.
Het Sniper Wolf costume is amazing.
I'm pretty sure mario is just a child with a fake mustache or he's just one of the toads in disguise because his height and proportions with the citizens of New Donk make no sense.
Those are actually interesting, i need to look into the Atelier series. Thanks!
Like i said in the other thread, part of what makes a good design is a look and an outfit that match the personality of the character. People should be able to tell what kind of personality the character has just by looking at them.
My problem with a lot of sexy designs in games is that more often then not, the girl wears a sexy/revealing outfit despite not having a sexual and seductive personality and not looking like that kind of girl. It's jaring and feels out of character you know?
My problem with a lot of sexy designs in games is that more often then not, the girl wears a sexy/revealing outfit despite not having a sexual and seductive personality and not looking like that kind of girl. It's jaring and feels out of character you know?
I guess Chun Li is sexualized in that almost everyone in most fighting games has a good body (unless the point is them to be purposely ugly/weird/monstrous/juvenile/etc). But I never found the design overtly sexualized.
Not counting all those alt costumes that clearly pander hard.
Not counting all those alt costumes that clearly pander hard.