"Shadow: Treachery cannot be tolerated", Steam game with no game at all. [Up: Configuration error]

[BY2K]

I've seen this pass on Twitter earlier today and it shows yet again that Valve needs to get it together when it comes to "games" released on Steam.

I put games in quote there because this one doesn't actually come with a game at all when you buy it.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/787300/Shadow_Treachery_cannot_be_tolerated/

And every piece of footage and screenshots the Steam page has are off-screen, for some reason.
And like I said earlier, when you buy the game, the game's folder is completely empty. You don't actually get a game by buying this.



Obviously most people won't be stupid enough to buy this but holy crap Valve, do something about this stuff.

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This is just a configuration error: the game data is tied to an unreleased DLC app instead of a standard data depot. The issue wouldn't have come up during the pre-release approval process as developer and beta testing packages have a release state override.

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[Javaman]

Jim Sterling called it. It's a real shame that valve is letting so much crap pollute their limited storefront.

 

[Calibro]

 

[callmeCata]

The description sites broken hitboxes as a feature. Good stuff.

 

[flyinj]

Pretty sure it's just that the developer screwed up their build submit to the steam servers. From looking at the screenshots of the game it doesn't seem like the developer is the brightest bulb in the chandelier.

 

[_zoipi]

I see Jim Sterling making a 15 minute long video in a constant roundabout of ways of saying that Steam needs to moderate its own store.

 

[kadotsu]

I see Jim Sterling making a 15 minute long video in a constant roundabout of ways of saying that Steam needs to moderate its own store.

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I won't watch it because I want to be apathetic, like the cool kids!

 

[5taquitos]

I won't watch it because I want to be apathetic, like the cool kids!

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There's a difference between being apathetic and choosing to not live life in a constant state of outrage.

 

[HotHotHot]

The game has 800mb of data on steam's servers, the dev just probably hasn't configured it properly. Don't let that get in the way of whining about Valve, I guess.

 

[BernardoOne]

I've seen this pass on Twitter earlier today and it shows yet again that Valve needs to get it together when it comes to "games" released on Steam.

I put games in quote there because this one doesn't actually come with a game at all when you buy it.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/787300/Shadow_Treachery_cannot_be_tolerated/

And every piece of footage and screenshots the Steam page has are off-screen, for some reason.
And like I said earlier, when you buy the game, the game's folder is completely empty. You don't actually get a game by buying this.



Obviously most people won't be stupid enough to buy this but holy crap Valve, do something about this stuff.

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The game was submitted with an .exe, that's literally a requirement to get on the store.
The only thing this shows is you have no idea how Steam actually works and really wanted to get a really quick shitpost about curation.

 

[chubigans]

This happens. Heck, it happened to me with the Mac/Linux versions of my game when I released it. It's very easy to overlook a few things when you're deploying the game to Steam.

Not to mention the fact that you have to go through a review process before releasing the game on Steam, so there's literally no way of releasing a game that doesn't exist.

 

[Javaman]

OMG, from the store description haahaha.

"ABOUT THIS GAME
This is an episodic game. In this episode you will be the main character Shadow (Alex Summer) who runs an international criminal empire. You will be attacked by few goons and you have to kill them all before they kill you. This is also a first person shooter game. You can use the mouse pointer to aim and click the mouse button to shoot. The most interesting feature of this game is that if you shoot the goons and they don't die, you have to shoot at the places surrounding the attackers to kill them."

 

[Flayer]

The game has 800mb of data on steam's servers, the dev just probably hasn't configured it properly. Don't let that get in the way of whining about Valve, I guess.

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Are you actually defending Valve putting this out on their store? Whatever the reason, scam or incompetence, it's unacceptably lax. Nobody would be giving Xbox or PSN any sympathy in a similar situation.

 

[PepsimanVsJoe]

OMG, from the store description haahaha.

"ABOUT THIS GAME
This is an episodic game. In this episode you will be the main character Shadow (Alex Summer) who runs an international criminal empire. You will be attacked by few goons and you have to kill them all before they kill you. This is also a first person shooter game. You can use the mouse pointer to aim and click the mouse button to shoot. The most interesting feature of this game is that if you shoot the goons and they don't die, you have to shoot at the places surrounding the attackers to kill them."

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Sounds like another winner.

 

[tuxfool]

Are you actually defending Valve putting this out on their store? Whatever the reason, scam or incompetence, it's unacceptably lax. Nobody would be giving Xbox or PSN any sympathy in a similar situation.

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Feel free to whine about the quality of the game or whether it should be on steam.

That isn't this thread, which seems to be a mistake.

 

[BY2K]

Feel free to whine about the quality of the game.

That isn't this thread, which seems to be a mistake.

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Well I wanted the thread to be about how the game is missing (though apparently that can be a thing)
About why the marketing material is all off screen
And how much of a mess this game appears to be just by looking at the Steam page
Overall how Valve still doesn't care about the game it allows on Steam

 

[Javaman]

I honestly can't tell if this game is someone trying to be ironically bad, a Chinese scammer, or a kid whoconvinced his parents to put up the money to get his middleschool project on steam.

 

[GhostTrick]

Well I wanted the thread to be about how the game is missing (though apparently that can be a thing)
About why the marketing material is all off screen
And how much of a mess this game appears to be just by looking at the Steam page
Overall how Valve still doesn't care about the game it allows on Steam

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Yup, because they leave the choice to consumers to buy it or not. When I look at this game, it looks like a terrible game. It also looks like someone's first game too.

 

[Yukinari]

Should just make an adult VN section for steam and start making money in a positive way instead of allowing shit like this to pass by.

 

[Nooblet]

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Are these the devs? cause then it'd mean it's a detective story because you have to actually find the missing game when you buy it.

Edit: Ah not the devs

 

[BY2K]

Yup, because they leave the choice to consumers to buy it or not. When I look at this game, it looks like a terrible game. It also looks like someone's first game too.

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I don't buy that. There needs to be a basic standard of quality.

 

[Deleted member 28523]

I don't buy that. There needs to be a basic standard of quality.

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Why? Says who? Steam not having any gatekeeping is one of it's strongest assets.

 

[Deleted member 2840]

I don't buy that. There needs to be a basic standard of quality.

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And who'd be the gatekeeper for that "standard"? The same ones at Sony, that not only let Life of Tiger to be on their platform, also featured it on their channel?

The existence of shit games on a platform has 0 effect on me or actual developers. Featuring it on a official channel is way more damaging, if you'd ask me.

 

[Imitation Of Life]

OMG, from the store description haahaha.

"ABOUT THIS GAME
This is an episodic game. In this episode you will be the main character Shadow (Alex Summer) who runs an international criminal empire. You will be attacked by few goons and you have to kill them all before they kill you. This is also a first person shooter game. You can use the mouse pointer to aim and click the mouse button to shoot. The most interesting feature of this game is that if you shoot the goons and they don't die, you have to shoot at the places surrounding the attackers to kill them."

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Is that a joke?

 

[FHIZ]

Yes this shit needs to go, but at this point I question who even buys these? I'm generally curious who of all the people who are at the very least knowledgeable enough about gaming to set up a steam account, sees anything resembling this and thinks "yep, this is my next game"

 

[BY2K]

Why? Says who? Steam not having any gatekeeping is one of it's strongest assets.

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Steam is a store.

A store is responsible for the quality of the products it's selling. Simple as that.

 

[GrrImAFridge]

This is just a configuration error: the game data is tied to an unreleased DLC app instead of a standard data depot. The issue wouldn't have come up during the pre-release approval process as developer and beta testing packages have a release state override.

 

[MCN]

That is so meta. The treachery is that you bought a game and got nothing.

 

[BernardoOne]

Steam is a store.

A store is responsible for the quality of the products it's selling. Simple as that.

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It's really not, no.

 

[Deleted member 2840]

Steam is a store.

A store is responsible for the quality of the products it's selling. Simple as that.

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And that's why refunds exist. Magical, isn't it? Other platforms that are more "closed" don't even support digital refunding, so I guess Steam is doing it wrong?

 

[Deleted member 29464]

Last week Sega made the mistake of giving people full Yakuza 6 games via their demo so yeah, devs and publishers make mistakes. As for whether the game deserves to be on steam by its perceived bad quality based on the screen shots, that's another debate. I don't personally mind too much, I do my research, rarely see them, and no gatekeepers means that the odd jewel gets in that would have been rejected by other store fronts.

 

[Deleted member 11926]

And that's why refunds exist. Magical, isn't it? Other platforms that are more "closed" don't even support digital refunding, so I guess Steam is doing it wrong?

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Ironically, Valve/Steam weren't really in a hurry to implement a refund policy until the Origin store showed how it can be done (Unbelievable that I'm actually praising EA here...).

 

[Deleted member 2840]

Ironically, Valve/Steam weren't really in a hurry to implement a refund policy until the Origin store showed how it can be done (Unbelievable that I'm actually praising EA here...).

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I mean, sure, Valve really dropped the ball on implementing it way too late. I even remember that they did it because of being sued or something? Anyway, it is one of things EA surprisingly did better than its competition. But that was 3 years ago, there's no reason the other digital platforms don't have an actual refund system in place.

 

[Imran]

Steam is a store.

A store is responsible for the quality of the products it's selling. Simple as that.

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I mean, not really, but that's sort of beside the point.

I've yet to conceive of a curation path that doesn't also risk losing good games in the process.

 

[Imran]

I mean, sure, Valve really dropped the ball on implementing it way too late. I even remember that they did it because of being sued or something? Anyway, it is one of things EA surprisingly did better than its competition. But that was 3 years ago, there's no reason the other digital platforms don't have an actual refund system in place.

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It was done to get in line with foreign digital service laws before it became a thing.

 

[BY2K]

It's really not, no.

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I mean, not really, but that's sort of beside the point.

I've yet to conceive of a curation path that doesn't also risk losing good games in the process.

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I wasn't aware "store" meant something else than "store".

 

[GrrImAFridge]

Ironically, Valve/Steam weren't really in a hurry to implement a refund policy until the Origin store showed how it can be done (Unbelievable that I'm actually praising EA here...).

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EA was first, but that was almost two years before Valve (August 2013 versus June 2015) and even today the policy covers less than a dozen third-party titles. What actually lit a fire under Valve's arse was the Australian government taking it to court.

 

[Deleted member 2840]

I wasn't aware "store" meant something else than "store".

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I also wasn't aware that "store" meant something other than "place that sells things" and instead means "place that curates things and tells you what's good".

 

[Deleted member 11926]

I mean, sure, Valve really dropped the ball on implementing it way too late. I even remember that they did it because of being sued or something? Anyway, it is one of things EA surprisingly did better than its competition. But that was 3 years ago, there's no reason the other digital platforms don't have an actual refund system in place.

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Yes, I also remember Valve getting sued. And I agree that all digital stores should offer a refund policy. I have mixed feelings about Valve being hands off with regards to checking the quality of the titles available on Steam. On one hand, how to "sort out the trash" without getting into arbitrary territory; Everyone who wants to sell should have a chance, right? On the other hand, there's just so much bullshit on Steam that it's not very fun (clumsy, in fact) to browse. I have to admit that I don't know a good answer to that dilemma.

 

[Deleted member 3058]

Can't post a steam review for a game unless you play it.

This way the game never gets a negative review score.

Ugh.

 

[Alcibiades]

Steam in general is not good for PC gaming, I hope some day other companies can break Valve's hegemony. They used to make great games, now they're just crap (imo of course).

 

[Fishsnot]

Alright be honest...who bought this.

 

[Deleted member 28523]

Steam is a store.

A store is responsible for the quality of the products it's selling. Simple as that.

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Uhh no? Are you serious? A storefront is in no way responsible for an item's quality.

Feel free to make a separate thread if you want to actually try and argue that stuff like this is the equivalent of e.coli. That would be a fun thread.

 

[Deleted member 11926]

EA was first, but that was almost two years before Valve (August 2013 versus June 2015) and even today the policy covers less than a dozen third-party titles. What actually lit a fire under Valve's arse was the Australian government taking it to court.

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Right, it was Australia. Yes. Thanks, Australia! :D

 

[Mo0]

Even if you think Steam doesn't bear RESPONSIBILITY for what it puts in the store, at the very least they should take the effort to keep really shoddy stuff like this to a minimum.

It's already started to solidify in people's minds that Steam is a place where literally anything can get put up, and that's an image that's hard to shake and scares people off eventually.

 

[BernardoOne]

I wasn't aware "store" meant something else than "store".

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Stores are places that sells things. Steam is selling things. Similarly, Amazon is also a store that sells things, including books. They don't give any particular shit about the quality of books they sell on there, neither should they.

 

[BY2K]

This is just a configuration error: the game data is tied to an unreleased DLC app instead of a standard data depot. The issue wouldn't have come up during the pre-release approval process as developer and beta testing packages have a release state override.

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That makes sense, considering the description says the game is episodic.

 

[Ionic]

On the other hand, there's just so much bullshit on Steam that it's not very fun (clumsy, in fact) to browse. I have to admit that I don't know a good answer to that dilemma.

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I think what they need to do is look at why people put trash on the store in the first place. itch.io is also incredibly hands off with this, but they seem to avoid much of the cynical garbage games. A lot of that is because on Steam these games can potentially get even a tiny audience which nets a bit of money. The other part is Steam has incentives to buy games beyond the quality of the game itself such as achievements and trading cards which link to a unified account leveling system. That's a couple ways even complete garbage manages to eek a profit on Steam. There has to be some way to keep the store open, but make it just not worth while to put complete junk on the store. The solution ought to involve making the platform unprofitable for bad games but I guess that's a difficult task.

 

[5taquitos]

I wasn't aware "store" meant something else than "store".

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I can go on Bandcamp right now and purchase the worst, most amateur music you've ever heard.

Should Bandcamp be screening every artist's release and ensuring that it meets some invisible standard of quality, or does word-of-mouth take care of that?

 

[Vamphuntr]

Steam is a store.

A store is responsible for the quality of the products it's selling. Simple as that.

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That's a ridiculous idea. With the same logic half of the stuff sold at gamestop should be sent to a dumpster because it's crappy shovelware. I mean do you believe a grocery store actually taste and run chemical analysis of everything they sell because they are responsible for the quality of everything they sell? Do a book store stop carrying terrible harlequins novels and thrashy teens books because they are bad litterature?

Steam has problems but your point has nothing to do with it.