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Should/Will a Street Fighter 6 do away with Cammy's gratuitous ass shots?
- Thread starter MajulaDream
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Seriously?Its a nice butt. Her ass is apart of her character as much as her being a Bison clone.
No. Let her keep it, and make the Resi style pants an option for anyone particularly bothered by it. It's just an ass, that one single pose is wayyyyyyyyy less gratuitous than 99% of the stuff seen in other fighting games, or FF7 remake, or any Kojima game involving a female character.
My thoughts as well. I'm not a big SF player but Capcom mainly seems to only alter poses and designs because ESPN complains.
I can understand WHY they played it safe with SFIV. New Generation/2nd Impact made the move to go with a completely new cast (they weren't even going to put Ryu and Ken in originally), but a lot of people don't like change. And especially with a fighting game where a lot of fans who found their favourite SF2 character that spent years of their lives identifying with them, and unless they were a shoto main, were suddenly gone. There are some gameplay and game system reasons that also turned off some high level players at the time, but my answer is the more general reasoning for the casual up to semi-hardcore fan that lead to the large exodus of the fanbase at that point.
I give Capcom credit for willing to shake things up and wanted to make SFIII fresh, but their timing wasn't great & they didn't really understand the current market (the arcade scene was dying in the US and a lot of consoles were finally catching up to provide an arcade-like experience at home) or what the fanbase wanted. And Alex is legitmately cool in retrospect, but it's weird they decided to make a grappler/charge character the face of SFIII.
Also the butt pose Cammy does is way too iconic, she does it in literally all the games she is in just as Chun-li always does her "I'm sorry" taunt.
It's not going away.
It's not going away.
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sf is based on stereotypes and almost all of its characters are problematic in some way, but people still love them, grew up with, and identify with them. if ur gonna have issues with her, who I see as actually empowering, she owns her whole self, u better have the same energy for the entire cast. inflating her design with real life sexual harassment is nonsense
Sexual harassment is as much a culture based on how women are treated, and games constantly depicting them in scandalous and unrealistic outfits (often and especially compared to men) is indeed because it's rooted in ideas of how women are seen as hyper-sexualized. Telling me Cammy's stereotype is reduced to her costume showing ass isn't helping your argument.
But do tell ME how a green onesie is empowering for her character. >:/
How odd. People have posted great cammy pants art... and Chun Li dabbled in it too
Capcom is made of talented artists. The ball is in their court and they've done fantastic work for its ladies before. Not sure why "tradition" = CAMMY ASS IS A MUST
There has to be a line dividing people that like butts and literal rapists. We reject the idea that the people that enjoy violent games are also violent but this idea still persists.
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Sure, but the thread is about Cammy's pose. Maybe we should ask them to dress Ryu in a thick sweater.
That's fair. But while we are largely and fortunately away from violence in most of our lives, sexual harassment is, in some ways, much more ubiquitous in every day life than war or violence or political espionage or alien attacks, or whatever most violent games wanna do.
Should it? Yeah, or at the very least give her those sick tactical pants first.
Will it? Of course not, if they tried Japan would fucking riot the way they did over Cammy's face until they changed it back.
Will it? Of course not, if they tried Japan would fucking riot the way they did over Cammy's face until they changed it back.
You first.
But really: How many wanna show ass?? lol Butt whatever. It's more a dumb outfit (and the occasional pervy camera).
For most casual gamers yeah. Of course those who actually play the game and learn more about her see that there is way more to the character.
They gave her pants so the sky's the limit.
Will be impressed if her default outfit has pants in SF6
Will be impressed if her default outfit has pants in SF6
Her ass is apart of her character
The fuck??? She's not a damn porn star, but it's great you (and I guess many others) treat her like one.
For fucking real.
lol idc if she has pants, I think pants cammy is actually a better design than non-pants cammy, but r u gonna categorically reject revealing clothing purely because revealing clothing is bad? u should be talking about the male gaze if u r rly gung ho on how cammy isn't being empowered in the game, but u also ignore literally every facet of her character other than her clothing in making this post, and I still think her clothing fits herSexual harassment is as much a culture based on how women are treated, and games constantly depicting them in scandalous and unrealistic outfits (often and especially compared to men) is indeed because it's rooted in ideas of how women are seen as hyper-sexualized. Telling me Cammy's stereotype is reduced to her costume showing ass isn't helping your argument.
But do tell ME how a green onesie is empowering for her character. >:/
How odd. People have posted great cammy pants art... and Chun Li dabbled in it too
Capcom is made of talented artists. The ball is in their court and they've done fantastic work for its ladies before. Not sure why "tradition" = CAMMY ASS IS A MUST
the OP makes more sense than u cuz they're talking about the specific camera angles that the game has that indicate a kind of hetero male gaze, which is significantly more problematic, especially as these games get more realistic. I would understand where u were coming from if u weren't just "clothing bad" and then going clothing bad -> sexual harassment and toxic work culture
Yes. One of Bison's top priorities for a good replacement body was a rocking ass.
Half serious, I mean look at the lineup of women he chose to be his replacements. He certainly had some specific priorities.
Yeah, can't say the thread's entirely surprisingly but still smdh.
"The ass is a part of her character" "She just likes to show off" fucking Christ lmao.
Ubisoft has tamed down any sexualisation a lot in their games over the last five years or so and yet has one of the worst company cultures. I'm not sure there is a direct connection to be made.
Were you expecting change overnight?
And they're not THAT good about it. They've depicted less trashy women but I dunno...they're still good at kinda giving them the short stick too sometimes. :/
Yes I think they will or make it an option somehow. They have been toning down the costumes aswell as adding shorts to all skirt costumes its obvious they are adding these for E-sports purposes and have it be more broadcast friendly. They also already modified her super camera from early on when it would focus too much on her ass at the start. They will probably either make an E-sports build or ban certain costumes from tournaments.
If anything, I'd like to assume that Mika/ESPN controversy will be a wakeup for Capcom that maybe they need to make the character designs less ridiculous in the next installment.
I'm confused by this. Ubi was playing the woke game while being scum to the core for a while now. What is "overnight" referring to here?
I don't expect that they'll get rid of it, but they'll probably change her default outfit to something more presentable since she and Mika have trouble being shown during esports events.
Whatever they do I hope they don't get rid of Ed's stripper outfit, it looks fucking hilariously over the top.
Whatever they do I hope they don't get rid of Ed's stripper outfit, it looks fucking hilariously over the top.
I mean the games changed but the company didn't so I'm not sure how directly content and companies treatment of real women can be equated.
I don't expect that they'll get rid of it, but they'll probably change her default outfit to something more presentable since she and Mika have trouble being shown during esports events.
Whatever they do I hope they don't get rid of Ed's stripper outfit, it looks fucking hilariously over the top.
His nipple looks chaffed but thats a fun outfit xD
"less trashy women"? lol post more about how you feel about depictions of women in video games pls
C'mon, like Ubisoft is the only company guilty of this?
It still doesn't defeat the point at large. Women in game and out are poorly treated in numerous regards (take your pick).
It's an outfit that has a bunch of tiny details that, by themselves, wouldn't register but that put together make it look so over the top. I fucking love it.
If they edited out her nipples then they can cover her ass, some of the reasoning in this thread to the contrary is just dumb.
See my other reply. I should have worded that better.
This.
I hate that a lot of these "grandfathered" series are so reluctant to change because "fanz maybe get mad".
Breath of the Wild finally ditched Link's dorky ass hat for the better and got rid of an annoying NPC fairy/imp/sci-fi-sword-woman and was a million times better for it.