SICARIO 2 - Official trailer
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I was gonna write more or less the same thing.
I 100% agree and yet, from the trailer, it seems like we are are meant to approve. That said, I don't think Sheridan would write a script in which that was the case, so the film hopefully won't have that same vibe.
The first one was brilliant and the soundtrack was superb.
I thought the second movie was going to be a prequel?
I thought the second movie was going to be a prequel?
This is currently my hesitation with this film but I guess we'll see once it comes out. Trailers could be purposefully misleading.
Even in Sicario, Benicio's cool actions had a tragic and uneasy undertone. Violence begets violence, the brutality and ruthlessness of his methods, etc. Sure, he stole the show but his actions weren't portrayed as good or heroic. I expect that to be brought to the forefront here now that he is protagonist
this. Especially surprising considering it's style and subject matter is right up my alley
I agree about Benicio's part. After the movie ended it felt like I had watched a very pulpy and kinda silly story wrapped up in the style of a prestige film. The dissonance didn't sit well with me. The movie took itself too seriously.
The trailer seems like it's painting Del Toro and Brolin's characters as bad people though. Brolin outright says he's going to get dirty, and tells Del Toro he needs him to help foment a war.
Maybe it's just from all the press stuff I've read about this movie, but I know Brolin has repeatedly talked about how much darker and uglier this movie will be compared to the first one. So I have the opposite reaction you do: I'm not worried about Del Toro, et al. being portrayed as 'the good guys', I'm more worried about the movie being so overly bleak that it just feels like too much.
They did. Sheridan wrote it specifically as "Soldado" and has been on record saying it isn't a sequel to Sicario, because Sicario doesn't need a sequel, and that Soldado was constructed as a different movie with different ambitions. The "Sicario 2" addition is recent.
What a bad title, though. I guess I'm cautiously optimistic. Still feels weird they are making a sequel to Sicario.
This has to be the most random thing ever. Sicario was a fantastic movie that didn't need a sequel, much less one without Villeneuve. Having said that, it looks interesting, and I don't mind exploring that world and see those characters again. So yeah, I'll definitely see it, hopefully it's still good enough.
I can understand this sentiment although there's nothing mystical about what he was able to do. A motivated person with money, time, and resolve can pick up the skills portrayed in Sicario with or without formal military experience. Some veterans offer those services independently or through PMCs. There was nothing in the film to indicate just how much time had passed between his family being slaughtered and the "present day" in that universe. Given his age, it could've been decades.
Dude it's written by the same guy (who might be the best new writer in the game) and while it's not Villeneuve, the director is no slouch.
Man though, "Sicario 2" is such an atrocious, studio mandated title. Soldado was much better.
It's such a blatant studio thing. Calling it Sicario 2 isn't going to do the movie any favors
Didn't realize who he is was, but having watched the Gomorra series recently my excitement is back up.
It's not a sequel guys, despite what the name now suggests. Taylor Sheridan is on record saying Sicario doesn't need a sequel, but that he wanted to write a new story, a different story, with some of those characters. To the writer of this movie (who also wrote Sicario), this movie is its own thing, called Soldado.
Yeah but she was a big reason I liked the first one. Without her, it feels like Independence Day 2 without Will Smith.
I guess we will see.
Yup. It's a shame really.
Imagine if we had this kind of studio naming back in the Sixties. We'd have ended up with: "A Fistful Of Dollars III: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly".
Loved the first one. Damn, this one is looking good too. People also judging the whole movie by the trailer i see. I bet there are quieter tones in there like in the first and not just action.
No Villeneuve is a bummer though since i really like his cinematography / style.
No Villeneuve is a bummer though since i really like his cinematography / style.
I was worried until I saw it was the guy who directed the Gomorrah TV series. The series is really great and filled with a lot of the style of cinematography from the first Sicario movie. I think it will be ok. Unless you're speaking to Del Toro's portrayal in the trailer
Exactly. I'd be pissed if I was writing this with a different tone and intent, only for the studio to panic and now put certain expectations in audience's heads
So amazing.
They used that same moaning music they used during the original movie. The hair on my arms stood up at how pretty the frame comps were. Anyway, I'm super excited for this.
Studio's typically don't trust audiences enough to give them the benefit of the doubt.
This looks like someone just tried to make a whole movie out of the "badass" scenes from the first film. Maybe it'll be a decent action movie? I don't know.
I wouldn't go that far, I loved the seriousness of it. The problem was in the last quarter it turned from a "do the ends justify the means" / "loss of innocence of a cop who just wants to do good" into a straight-to-video action movie starring a generic Seagal-like superman. A guy who can sit at a dinner table and kill 4 people sitting around the table in under a second with four headshots from a pistol, without aiming or even turning his head, just seemed wildly out of place in that movie (much less in reality), and the fact that a couple years before he had just been some lawyer made it even more silly.
Exactly my thoughts.
I'm pretty excited though.
What was del Toros character doing when he shot that gun with his index finger?
The first one was pulp disguised as thought-provoking drama so I'm okay with a sequel dropping the pretense.
I had no idea that they were making a Sicario 2, but that seems extremely unnecessary, especially without Villeneuve.
Gomorra is fantastic so I've got high hopes for this. Should have kept Soldado as the name though.
Sicario was definitely enhanced by Villeneuve's work, but Sheridan is the key with that story. I'll trust anything he writes.
The writer and director are making Soldado, calling it Sicario 2 is clearly some late game studio choice
Between Wind River, Hell or High Water, and Sicari, Sheridan has proven his talent at writing these kinds of stories. And between Suburra and Gomorra, Stefano has a knack for brutal tense crime thriller/drama
I've been excited for this movie since the day it was announced. The first is such a classic thriller and Sheridan deserves the lions share of the credit for it before Denis. The director of the sequel has done some pretty great work on Gomorrah which is a pretty fucking bleak show and his "action" is often moments of quiet punctuated by quick bursts of extreme violence which is a pretty sicario way of handling it. I have little doubt brolin and co are still going to be awful human beings and while we may get a little more complexity and sympathy for benicio hell be far from a hero protagonist
