SIE Worldwide Studios |OT5| Part II
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That's nice to hear. And I assume they will keep some staffs to support KojiPro next game (also working with them to develop Decima next gen version) since Kojima said he already worked on next game.
He can't, Sony wants to retain all the IPs, this is the clause that every developers has to accept to partner with Sony.
They don't let studios keeping the IP.
Ahah, not sure it will fall in my news cycle
They said they were 165 at the moment at SSM and during GOW development, they peaked at 300
I don't know if we can be sure if these hirings are for a 2nd team
He probably doesn't value IP ownership as highly so long as it can hit multiple platforms.
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i doubt he would find many publisher willing to fund his AAA project if he wanted the IP ownership
Yep that way if the game blows up big the person \ company has to team up with them again if they want to make more.
It smart and it's to make sure another CB don't happen.
Not many people have seen this, but in a recent talk he said he wants his game to be played by as many people as he can, hence the easy mode, he also talked about how streaming would make that possible.
Why Sony is not publishing the game on PC? It's their own IP. That's the odd part in this imo.
Could you share the link, please ? It would be funny if the game ends up being an Epic Store exclusive.
It's safe to assume Nioh 2, FFVII, Lost Soul Aside, and Granblue Fantasy Relink will also end up on PC. Maybe even Dreams.
Yes.
All of them, even Dreams which is a FP studio product.
FF7 will 100% end up on Xbox and PC a year later. Sony isn't even trying to hide that.
All Tecmo Koei games are on PC and they launch day one, NiOh is the only exception because Sony is publishing the game in West, Nioh was released on Steam and the sequel will follow up for sure.
CyGames is interested about publishing their games on PC -> https://www.dualshockers.com/granblue-fantasy-versus-gets-new-details-on-accessibility-pc-version/
SE is porting every game they can on PC and FF7R will follow as well, maybe after KH3, since this one is still the biggest series missing.
Lost Soul Aside has to come up first :D
I'm not sure there's anyone who doesn't assume that. Even Dreams makes more sense for a PC release than anything else in Sony's portfolio.
Of course. Atlus will be the only company to possibly make a an actual Japanese exclusive in the future for sony.
Yes, unless the management changes, Atlus will remain PS exclusive for ever.
I would be more likely to create stuff in Dreams if it was available on PC. I don't like how it works with DS4 and Move controllers, too shaky.
While I think Dreams is exceptional already, I absolutely agree. Mouse and keyboard would be a godsend.
Im sorry if this is going to sound harsh, but you peopel are not very smart when it comes to bussiness decisions.
Sony is going to get a huge part of the sales because of the 8 months on the ps4 and they are going to get a huge cut from the sales on pc.
How is that a terrible decision?
They do the same for Nioh, FF7 and another timed exclusive games. It pays out, that is why they continue to do it.
Sony is going to get a huge part of the sales because of the 8 months on the ps4 and they are going to get a huge cut from the sales on pc.
How is that a terrible decision?
They do the same for Nioh, FF7 and another timed exclusive games. It pays out, that is why they continue to do it.
So, for future reference:
So, unless Sony gets up on stage and yells, "EXCLUSIVE!" for a game, it's not. Hell, even then, it might not be an exclusive.
- Engine ownership
- IP ownership
- Massive funding
So, unless Sony gets up on stage and yells, "EXCLUSIVE!" for a game, it's not. Hell, even then, it might not be an exclusive.
I haven't once brought up the PC release in our conversation, there was plenty of evidence pointing to Kojima getting a really good deal from this before today, that's just the exclamation mark. So far (<that's important) he's got a fully funded game, funding to help set up a brand new studio, free access to WWS's resources, a pretty star studded cast and Sony have got a short timed exclusive game that will probably sell well, but I wouldn't say it's a safe bet, given how weird it is.
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Exclusivity has to be stated directly by the developer.
Basically what Insomniac did; they made it clear on Twitter that Spider-Man is a permanent exclusive.
You're reading far too much into this. Original press release had this title as console exclusive, the contract between KojiPro and Sony is not something they can breakaway with. There are plenty of exclusives developed by 3rd parties such as BloodBorne, Spider-Man, Until Dawn, Order 1886 etc. and they never arrived on PC. Going forward, only those exclusive titles (developed by 3rd parties) will hit PC later down the line if Sony thinks the full exclusivity isn't worth their money, FP titles are never heading to PC anyway.
Exactly, these negotiations take a lot of time. I'm sure Sony must've bargained for few things at their end, same with KojiPro at the other and arrived at a mutually beneficial conclusion in the contract which was eventually entered.
There is a lot of hate out there for Hideo Kojima. People who were adamant that the game would flop but are now celebrating the games 2020 PC release, is a bit of a head scratcher.
And now according to that thread Sony is going to put TLOU2 on PC too!?!?
That DS on PC thread is one of the craziest I've seen on era.
And now according to that thread Sony is going to put TLOU2 on PC too!?!?
That DS on PC thread is one of the craziest I've seen on era.
This excites me. Any chance it's an Order sequel or have Sony given up on the franchise?
I just hope Relink is released (and at a good state) at this point.
The way Ru Weerasuriya talked about The Order recently they seems to still want to work on it.
If it's from a first party studio is likely to be exclusive (Dreams is a different case and this make sense to release it on others platform) but yeah i agree if it's from a third party and if Sony doesn't shout it's exclusive for Playstation it will be coming on PC.
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Oh man, I hope this really happens. I love MediEvil a lot.
Crash is Sony's biggest mistake...(second only to not buying Minecraft)That stupid bandicoot could've been the next Mario or Sonic.
Also guys, wtf do y'all care so much about what's completely exclusive, what's timed, etc...I know some of y'all ain't even PC players lol. Not trying to swing the discussion to my preference or anything but really, who the fook cares? Sony is making bank and is agreeing to put their IP elsewhere and it's having no negative impacts whatsoever. Everything is good??
The most baffling thing is that people on an enthusiast gaming site still can't wrap their head around what a first party game means.
I'm still curious to see how Crash 4 will be.
The remaster was a huge successbut it was still the ND games.
Crash/Spyro effect. Sucks Activision ended up with those IP's
2nd party refers to the type of contract they have with the devs, not the status of the game that will be published by them. If a game is FULLY published by SIE, the game is a First-party title whether or not the game is developed internally or externally.
Sony needs to make sure that they have more 3rd party full exclusives next gen. If the only games that are fully exclusive to the PS5 are the 10 or so games that their own studios put out during the generation, I'll consider it a failure on their part. They have the money, they've closed down enough studios that they can afford several full exclusives next gen.
I think many will give it a try but the magic might be loss without ND. Unless there's a team (current developer for crash)that legitimately wants to give the Mario devs a run for its money, my prediction is good not great sales for Crash 4 and then it dies out again like PS2 era Multi-plat Crash.
Just so I get this right here...
Kojima Productions signed the initial contract. So the marketing backing, first party engine and Sony's IP ownership had nothing to do with Death Stranding being published by 505 Games for PC. Sony was pretty vague about this for a long time anyway. Unlike Spider-Man, they didn't really say anything about Death Stranding being "exclusive". Additionally, they quietly removed "Only On PlayStation" branding from the game as well.
What I don't understand is why announce this 2 weeks before release and almost a week before the reviews drop?
Does this also mean the sequel will follow the same template? Assuming it becomes a big hit for Sony that is. Basically all in all, Sony publishing a game means nothing, (Nioh on PS4), owning an IP (Detroit, Helldivers, Death Stranding) or first party engine. Until they legitimately say "exclusive" from the top of their lungs, don't believe shit.
Kojima Productions signed the initial contract. So the marketing backing, first party engine and Sony's IP ownership had nothing to do with Death Stranding being published by 505 Games for PC. Sony was pretty vague about this for a long time anyway. Unlike Spider-Man, they didn't really say anything about Death Stranding being "exclusive". Additionally, they quietly removed "Only On PlayStation" branding from the game as well.
What I don't understand is why announce this 2 weeks before release and almost a week before the reviews drop?
Does this also mean the sequel will follow the same template? Assuming it becomes a big hit for Sony that is. Basically all in all, Sony publishing a game means nothing, (Nioh on PS4), owning an IP (Detroit, Helldivers, Death Stranding) or first party engine. Until they legitimately say "exclusive" from the top of their lungs, don't believe shit.
That is what I feel will happen too.
They tried to make several Crash games without ND, but it never worked. Even the Kart games did not feel right.
Err. I dont like the idea to block other console owners from playing 3rd party games. Those budgets can hire external developers to work on exclusive games
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