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OrdinaryPrime

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"But Sinclair and other networks said such a deal is nothing nefarious or new - just an arrangement for extended sit-down interviews with both candidates, one many campaigns have done in previous years to get around the national media and directly to viewers in key states."

From that article sounds like they were doing the "must run" articles before any agreement. Nothing nefarious.

Do you honestly see nothing wrong with what Sinclair is doing?
 

99nikniht

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As a publicly traded company, no.

So let me get this straight, you think because they are acting within the legal boundaries of the law, there are no moral implications to the actions of Sinclair?
If they are pushing for an agenda that is clearly against the interest of constituents across the country for their personal gain, people will be harmed one way or another.
This would be analogous to misinforming masses of people that jumping off of a 2 story building is good for you because, it is the patriotic to do so, and after the the few that does indeed jump, they profit from showing the carney show that follows.
 

Piecake

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Oct 27, 2017
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Is it an extension of a government or political party? Trump doesn't own sinclair, neither does the republican party. A publicly traded company can do what they want within the means of the law with their owned properties, in this case a few broadcast TV stations.

Ajit Pai (Basically the Trump Administration) changed the laws that allowed Sinclair to buy up so many local news stations. Before Ajit Pai, news stations had to be under local ownership.
 

Nude_Tayne

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Ah capitalism over everything. Sweet. It's important for their stock price to go up. More important than their Orwellian practices.

Enjoy my ignore list, Ramuh, you're a bad person.
He's not even willing to argue in good faith. He downplays Sinclair's reach by saying they own "a few" stations. Bullshit. And rationalizing what a "publicly traded company" does "within the law" regardless of what they do or how the law came into effect in the first place is just sick.
 

nib95

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Wow, pure orchestrated propaganda.
 

Ramuh

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He's not even willing to argue in good faith. He downplays Sinclair's reach by saying they own "a few" stations. Bullshit. And rationalizing what a "publicly traded company" does "within the law" regardless of what they do or how the law came into effect in the first place is just sick.

But it's true in the context of what you think can be done by this? I was just as grossed out by it, but finding a legal means to stop this is something to talk about not about what , is again a publicly traded company, can do.
 

Kernel

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LOL. All publicity traded companies engage in propaganda irregardless of industry not governed by regulations. Wouldn't you agree Ads are a form of propaganda?

Propaganda relies on deception and confusion.

Ads are persuasive and there's laws against false advertising. Plus you know you are being sold on a product or idea.
 

Ramuh

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Oct 25, 2017
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Not exactly the intent of information exchange on the local news wouldn't you agree?
Responding to the quote about being me ok with propaganda, not this article mind you. As for local news, it's a wash. Are broadcast companies required to give equal time to different sides of the same argument. The answer is no, they run the stories they want, their owners and shareholders want.
 

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What Sinclair is doing right now regarding ownership of local stations was illegal half a year ago. Ajit Pai changed regulation and has been questioned for doing so ever since. And as part of an ongoing investigation, a link between him and sinclair has been found:

https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/15/...oadcast-group-inspector-general-investigation

Asking what legal options we have is dumb, since there are actually many legal options. Not least of which calling for our senators and congressmen to force Ajit Pai to justify his policies that have overwhelmingly gone against public interest (which can result in said policies being rescinded and Pai being removed).
 

Ramuh

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Propaganda relies on deception and confusion.

Ads are persuasive and there's laws against false advertising. Plus you know you are being sold on a product or idea.

Agreed. But looking at with a microscope, maybe there should be a law equalizing treatment of the different sides. As for this tell all from Sinclair, everything they said is making a statement about something (that many might not agree with), not engaging in any form of false advertisement. And all news are ideas, they might convey events but tone and presentation can paint a picture of something not explicitly said.
 

Ramuh

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Oct 25, 2017
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What Sinclair is doing right now regarding ownership of local stations was illegal half a year ago. Ajit Pai changed regulation and has been questioned for doing so ever since. And as part of an ongoing investigation, a link between him and sinclair has been found:

https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/15/...oadcast-group-inspector-general-investigation

Asking what legal options we have is dumb, since there are actually many legal options. Not least of which calling for our senators and congressmen to force Ajit Pai to justify his policies that have overwhelmingly gone against public interest (which can result in said policies being rescinded and Pai being removed).

Then if people feel that way, they can engage the legal system and Congresspeople to rectify this.
 

Deleted member 12790

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...they ran a series of what was supposed to be a clandestine propaganda messages that preached the social dangers of one-sided, biased reporting intended to trick the public opinion. Even if you are too thick to see how that shouldn't be allowed for the obvious social ramifications, you should at least recognize how insultingly hypocritical it is.
 

Deleted member 3058

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Agreed. But looking at with a microscope, maybe there should be a law equalizing treatment of the different sides.
We did. The republicans gutted it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FCC_fairness_doctrine

Regarding the
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bullshit, I'm not interested in hearing milquetoast takes about how the middle ground is acceptable. We're at the middle ground now. It results in kids getting murdered in their classrooms and black family members getting gunned down by police in their own yards and women having to travel sometimes a 100 miles to get to the only abortion providing center in their state and...

It's not acceptable.
 

Deleted member 10551

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If you're a wrestling fan - Ring of Honor is owned entirely by Sinclair, so that's something you can add to your boycott list.

Note: the "All-In" show that Cody/Omega are doing- it's not affiliated with Ring of Honor, and is fine, just the Ring of Honor stuff itself.
 

0VERBYTE

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This is more important than anything on a sate level right now. Are the local lews stations giving into this agenda tho? Please tell me they are fighting it. Can anything be done about this?
 

Shauni

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This is more important than anything on a sate level right now. Are the local lews stations giving into this agenda tho? Please tell me they are fighting it. Can anything be done about this?

There's nothing realistically they can do except quit. They'll just get replaced by the next people in line, though