Pretty interesting stuff, considering she's the responsible behind Nathan Drake as we all know him.
More at https://gameranx.com/updates/id/170...e-wouldnt-work-today-according-to-amy-hennig/
Single-player games like Uncharted: Drake's Fortune wouldn't get approved by publishers today.
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Pretty interesting stuff, considering she's the responsible behind Nathan Drake as we all know him.
More at https://gameranx.com/updates/id/170...e-wouldnt-work-today-according-to-amy-hennig/
I love games like that and would gladly buy and play it. I loved things like The Lost Legacy too. Really don't like this notion that single-player is dead.
I... don't agree with this thought. I know her games have not materialized as of late but this pretty much described the indie-to-"triple I" scene and it seems to be working fine there.
EDIT: I was wondering if RE2 qualifies for what she said, since she said "second modes" but it seems like a lot of people are saying it works, so yeah, bad timing in this quote.
EDIT: I was wondering if RE2 qualifies for what she said, since she said "second modes" but it seems like a lot of people are saying it works, so yeah, bad timing in this quote.
I can agree with that tho it makes a lot if sense now if you sold it as a mid tier title say for 40 then I think it would do well
But honestly depending on how good the game is ppl would still buy for 60 tho I agree in the context of single player games have gotten longer and better overall, so it would be hard for me personally to buy an 8 hour title without reply or multi-player value
But honestly depending on how good the game is ppl would still buy for 60 tho I agree in the context of single player games have gotten longer and better overall, so it would be hard for me personally to buy an 8 hour title without reply or multi-player value
She's not saying it wouldnt work in terms of critic/fan outlook. Shes saying how pitching that to a large company wouldnt most times end up being unsuccessful because of companies want everlasting revenue from games these days. Exceptions arent rules.
SP games will endure and thrive long after MP centric, microtransaction riddled, AAA greedy titles crash the market.
A remake of a game in a hugely popular series? Not a great comparison.
Hellblade makes more sense. About the same length, new IP and no other modes. Maybe they're less likely to succeed but it's still happening.
That's a remaster of one of the most beloved games ever made that is a really stupid comparison clearly she is speaking on brand new AAA games
She didn't say single player was dead did any of yall read the damn quote at least?
Yeah this is the issue. There's a place for them, but it will mostly be from first party studios and smaller publishers like Capcom.
Ubisoft, Activision, EA etc. are mostly about evergreeen service games they can monetize. Hence EA canceling her Star Wars games.
So it's going to be tougher for people like her to get a huge budget to make a high production value, one and done, shorter SP game like Uncharted these days.
I think she's right... in a sense.
We need to face the facts. Most younger gamers are growing up with MTX, GAAS and multiplayer only/heavy games. So I don't think a lot from that generation would like single player games in general, let alone full priced *short* single player games. So if a company is trying to make 999999999999999 gazillion dollars off of a game like that it'd probably fail.
But if it's aimed towards older gamers, has a specific audience, and has a more reasonable budget, I don't see why a short single player game couldn't sell around 5-6 million copies, and doubly so if it's priced more reasonably (instead of $79 CDN, more around $49 or $39).
Of course I don't mind full priced, AAA single player only games (hell I love 'em), but apparently I'm an old woman at this point in this market.
We need to face the facts. Most younger gamers are growing up with MTX, GAAS and multiplayer only/heavy games. So I don't think a lot from that generation would like single player games in general, let alone full priced *short* single player games. So if a company is trying to make 999999999999999 gazillion dollars off of a game like that it'd probably fail.
But if it's aimed towards older gamers, has a specific audience, and has a more reasonable budget, I don't see why a short single player game couldn't sell around 5-6 million copies, and doubly so if it's priced more reasonably (instead of $79 CDN, more around $49 or $39).
Of course I don't mind full priced, AAA single player only games (hell I love 'em), but apparently I'm an old woman at this point in this market.
There are too many examples of games like that over the last two years or so that HAVE been commercial and critical successes for me to agree with her.
She's probably right in the context of trying to get an AAA budget from EA et al for a new IP.
RE2 is not a remaster. It's a ground-up reimagining of the original.
RE2 is not a remaster. It's a ground-up reimagining of the original.
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That was pitched as a DLC and already had assets made so it probably had cheap turn around. She is clearly talking about pitching a new game/IP
Yeah RE2 is 8 hours across 4 different scenarios and the extra scenarios. Oh wait.
It had a multiplayer mode too, right? What she is talking about is single player only games.
I believe her because publishers are idiots. She's not saying these games wouldn't sell. It's that publishers have no idea what people actually want and how to sell to certain groups.
It has been extremely successful. No one expected it to set the world on fire. So was RE7.
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She's talking about 10-15 hours. 30 would probably be considered long
Hmm good point. The combination of no online mode and a short singleplayer campaign, I suppose I can understand as a new IP.
I don't 100% agree with her, but RE2 was a remake of a beloved game in an an already successful and popular franchise, not exactly the same thing as pitching a game like Uncharted 1 (new IP that's "just" a 8-10 hour campaign) in 2019.
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let's be real, it didn't work back then either. commercially speaking, i mean
which is why ND rectified the shortcomings of U1 with u2
and Sony probably wouldn't have greenlit/released U1 if it wasn't something of a soft launch title and PS3 in desperate need of software
which is why ND rectified the shortcomings of U1 with u2
and Sony probably wouldn't have greenlit/released U1 if it wasn't something of a soft launch title and PS3 in desperate need of software
It was a budget-priced semi-sequel relying extremely heavily on the engine work done in the previous game. Not really a one-to-one comparison to a full-priced new IP with a new engine.
I think she's speaking generally as to what's accepted to be greenlit as a major project. There are exceptions, but Capcom gets away with it due to it being the RE brand
Followup to one of the biggest IPs in gaming that likewise has online MP
But RE2 has multiple modes and scenarios...? OG Uncharted just had the campaign. No time attack or anything.
The RE2 and Lost Legacy examples being touted feel very disingenuous to me - RE2 is a remake of a fan favourite game, and LL while fitting the description is part of a well established franchise that has a record of doing well saleswise
How many 10-12 hour single-player only games are the big publishers making?
How many 10-12 hour single-player only games are the big publishers making?
I love Legacy of Kain and Uncharted, but when was the last time Amy Hennig actually made something significant instead of blaming the big studios for not letting her make what she wants to? At some point you have to either question if what you want to make isn't feasible or if you have to adapt.
Followup to one of the biggest IPs in gaming that likewise has online
Read the quote she's talking about getting that pitch greenlit from nothing.
Wow no one reads the OP
Pretty sure she's talking about 60$, 10 hours SP games with no MP or whatsoever.
LL was 40 bucks iirc