Skullgirls add "wireless internet" indicator to distinguish players on Wifi
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At least as a wifi warrior you can be safe in the knowledge you don't care about childish things such as enjoying a smooth videogame online and sleep safe that your wife is sexually satisfied by your aesthetically pleasing 2 story apartment, completely free of cables and your 26 devices are all being serviced by a thick stream of data, pumped directly to their superior wifi chipsets via an ultra modern, perfectly configured mesh network.
truly, there is no greater feeling.
truly, there is no greater feeling.
Jitter display added
God where does Mike Z go from here. I don't want this roller coaster to end I need more gamer oppression tears.
Glorious. How many Wifi Ryus must I stomp on online to make this a reality in every fighting game?
I'm waiting for the WiFi defense force to show up again and denounce this
I can't even buy it again. I got it on every platform id actually want to play Skullgirls on
Are there any good ways to test local network connection quality in general? I'm only getting 1ms pings on cmd with WiFi, and no packet loss.
run a ping test that will go on till you stop it. Run a download test. If your router buckles you got bloat or latency problems for one reason or another.
Only other way know is for you to give out specs of your setup and let us infer. Odds are if you aren't purposely running airtime fixed drivers on some AQM I would say no.
I couldn't figure out how a thread about Skullgirls getting Wi-Fi indicators could possibly have 14 pages so I had to check it out. Now I want to stay here forever.
I'm currently testing with my Windows laptop, but I'd love a way to test my PS4. It's not feasible for me to use ethernet without drilling a hole in the floor (which isn't an option). I just want to quantify how much WiFi is degrading my network.
Anecdotally, I don't notice any regular lag issues while online gaming, compared to when I was able to use my PS4 on ethernet at another location, however I'd prefer to see some real data to know if there's major issues with the network that I'm not 'feeling'.
The device you use to test your router won't matter since ultimate issue is the AP is on the router and not your ps4 or laptop. You just want to see if your router is gonna buckle.
Games don't really have advanced networking tools unless you have something telling your jitter over time you can't really say you noticed much.
These two documents go in to why wifi is busted until you fix it.
Bufferbloat and beyond
Ending the Anomaly: Achieving Low Latency and Airtime Fairness in WiFi
Again examine your router does it do any of the things mentioned to make your wifi optimal if not see if your router supports better stock firmware or custom firmware or get off it if you can.
I genuinely don't get the complaints in this thread.
Why do I need to play someone , have a bad experience because they are on wifi and then block them. I should be able to just block them anyway.
And LOL @ the its too expensive argument. Yea let me just buy this $400 console and this $60 game , but that $10 cable ? Nah thats only for rich people.
Why do I need to play someone , have a bad experience because they are on wifi and then block them. I should be able to just block them anyway.
And LOL @ the its too expensive argument. Yea let me just buy this $400 console and this $60 game , but that $10 cable ? Nah thats only for rich people.
You realize Wired is actually cheaper than Wireless right ? smh some of these posts.
Also its not like you are banned from playing everyone. Just people who don't want laggy matches. Theres no real difference between this and manually blocking every person you lag with ( which is like 99% wifi players ).
He's right though jitter is just variance in the delay it's not the reason why.
Doesn't change the nature of the feature which is that me and others won't be forced to deal with laggy connections. I don't care if you're sub 50ms jitter to me but if it's frequent or high no thx.
Guy is a tool.
Next Skullgirls patch is gonna inject a de bufferbloated wifi driver and flash your router with properly configured DD-WRT
I think that ability is admin-only, sadly. There were times I wanted to change people's avatars but couldn't lol
You're after my heart.
That's all we need let us upload an img/bin/sys and we can fix most people's crap in a heartbeat.
Mike should push for it Sony or MS other devs are more familiar with him than dave taht or toke. We take any help on deplyoment we can get.
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A lot of those people probably "rent" their routers from ISPs and think Wi-Fi is cheaper. Not realizing they are literally paying monthly for the privilege (Oh no i used that word in this legendary thread) of Wi-Fi.
On a real note, just having an indicator is an okay first step. Like a lot of others have said in this thread, having a way to change matchmaking to all or only wired would be nice. Sure, there are going to be people who ethernet to a mesh network or something similar, but as far as the FGC is concerned, it would just help packet loss. Packet loss is the death of matches.
Hey man you can't prove my connection is bad because of wifi maybe I'm just streaming porn while I play so there.
Wiring a house or apartment for networking requires a) that you own the place and can punch holes in the walls, and b) that you have either a fair amount of know how and at least a basic set of tools, or the ability to pay someone else to do it for you.
Of course, there are a lot of situations where you can setup your rig next to the router—maybe your parents had the folks from the ISP drop cable to your room, maybe you live in a studio apartment, maybe the house you rent just happens to have hookups in the right places, or maybe you just run cables over the doors and don't care that they won't close or that a guest might trip. Whatever.
There are plenty of people who use WiFi because that's what works for them, however. And picking on them by giving them a badge of shame kind of sucks—it speaks to a lack of empathy and care on Lab Zero's part, which is disappointing, and kind of makes me feel less warm and fuzzy about recently reinstalling Skull Girls and settling into it.
I like to play games curled up on the couch with my Switch or my Laptop, and I haven't yet had room in my money or time budgets to buy a crimper and a big roll of cat6 so that I can run cable under the floor and add a network drop near said couch. I guess I'm not welcome to curl up with Skull Girls until I do so? Bah! I guess I'll play something else. :-p
No, it does not. You didn't include simply get a long cable and run it along the base of the walls.
Works just fine in apartments where you can't modify anything.
Literally what I did. Got a long ass flat ethernet cable and ran it under the rugs. and along the walls.
Cost like 15 bucks
Get a long cable and some tape and you can easily run it against the walls. Heck I run my cable over the doorway thresholds so I won't ever trip on them.
I lived in a 2-story loft and I ran cable from 1st floor to top level alcove using some cheap flat ethernet I found on Amazon for under $20 and some velcro and adhesive. I ran it along the tall window so no one could tell, and under a runner on the 1st level.
If you were serious enough where playing ranked matches against other higher level players who similarly take the game seriously is important to you, you would make the investment
Otherwise, if you are just doing some casual play this doesn't affect nor does it bother you in the least. You probably don't even care enough to make any changes just like the other 99% of SG owners who dip in casually for online play. They aren't going to dig into their settings to limit their player pool - at least not on purpose.
I just run a long Cable when I am playing some Street Fighter on my PS4. You can get ultra thin cables that are hardly noticeable and can also stick em to the wall with some mounts. I don't think any sort of drilling is needed.
Now if someone lives in a Giant beautiful mansion , yes running an ugly wired cable can be hard. But maybe the dude living in a house like that shouldn't be calling wired internet a "privilege".
If it is annoying for a Wifi user to run a cable , then it is also equally annoying for people who run wired connections to constantly run into bad matches. Calling people who play on wired "Privileged" in this context is quite dumb imo. It also downplays what the word actually means.
This isn't some poor/rich discrimination like this thread is making it out to be. Wifi users still have plenty of other Wifi users to play with. You want to play curled up on the couch on the Switch ? Go right ahead. Nobody is against you. I just don't see why I have to matched against those people and ruin my online experience. I'd rather play 3-4 good quality matches in one session than 10 laggy ones. If you are on the Switch , chances are theres far more Wifi users than ethernet. So the Wired users will be the ones limiting themselves.
This.
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If you feel it's a "badge of shame", that's frankly because you know there's good reason to be ashamed for it.
Like no one calls low-bar connection symbols or high ping a "badge of shame", it's just the objective reality of your connection status being displayed to other uses. This is no different except for the fact that it's something most people could do something about but don't want to, so they're ashamed of it because they know they should be.
My god, RIP in peace any meaningful definition of the word "ashamed."
Good thing there's a universal meaning for a green connection, as measured by the colorometer inside your router.
I mean, if you don't feel like it's something to be ashamed of, don't be.
But you can't call it a "badge of shame" and then say it's nothing to be ashamed of. If you're viewing this as a badge of shame, you apparently consider it something to be ashamed of. Simple?
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Nah, you'd still find people people with as bad connection as you to play with, all that this would change is you wont be ruining the experience for anyone who actually care about their connection... Not that you ever cared about playing this game, right?
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people on bad wifi will personally be escorted by Mike Z to fighting game jail.
lmfao this has to be sarcasm
To be fair you need to be a superior race of beings to play fighting games, after all-
Genuinely incredible thread. I feel like we need to indulge the victim complex of wi-fi warriors by turning "the badge of shame" into a perma ban. Played Mk11 on wi-fi? Banned on all online games across all platforms.