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Smach Z (Handheld PC) Hands-On Impressions and Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice Gameplay
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I almost forgot about his. With the GP32 and the GPD Win 2 on the market already, I am curious about how well this stacks up in the portable PC market.
It's a bit low PPI wise (compared to say an iPad), sure, but I think it's not realistic to expect a 4K or higher screen. It certainly wouldn't be within their budget, considering the price they had on IndieGogo
I was actually thinking they should've used a 720p screen, not that the resolution is too low.
You can still run games on 720p, should scale nicely. It would be interesting to know the battery capacity, but I assume that would differ from this early model to the final release.
Looks like the lying scammers waited until the technology was cheap enough to crap out a final piece of junk.
Oh my fucking God when he pulled the Atari Lynx out in the unboxing video I almost died. Spit soda all over my monitor
Using a 1080p screen instead of a 720p one is dumb.
If you want to play modern games at 60 FPS, 720p is a better bet. 720p upscaled to 1080p will look worse than 720p on a 720p screen. It's just dumb to put a 1080p screen in a device like this. It would also be cheaper. At least make a 720p and a 1080p model and let the user choose.
If you want to play modern games at 60 FPS, 720p is a better bet. 720p upscaled to 1080p will look worse than 720p on a 720p screen. It's just dumb to put a 1080p screen in a device like this. It would also be cheaper. At least make a 720p and a 1080p model and let the user choose.
Looks to be slightly faster judging from the Sekiro performance on low settings but I'm betting the next GPD Win will be out or announced officially before this hits for sale, and according to rumors it'll blow this thing out of the water with performance.
video for reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVWG6NgeUOs
This runs hotter than the GPD Win 2 for sure.
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Not sure if serious. The product they are delivering is exactly what they said from the beginning.
Delivering exactly what was promised... More than 2.5 years after the initial shipping date.
yeah, that was extremely good even though I'm unsure how comedic it was intended to be
still, at least this thing is actually coming out, but howfucking much is it going to cost? the GPD WIN 2 is already too much, is this going to be more?
Sourcing cheap 720p screens these days is probably quite difficult
Not really.
1080p was a marketing choice from them.
A bad choice because very few games will run at native res.
Instead of pushing for 720p which is far more than enough at this size to either save battery life or get a slightly lower res, everything will now run at too low res for the screen.
Well this certainly looks mediocre. I wonder if they'll be able to produce enough to send out to their backers from um... how many years ago now? Or if they just managed to produce a small enough number of somewhat working devices to send out to some people to make it seem as if these backers will actually get a product.
The cooling seems to be better since the vid shows that the surface temps are lower.
In the Sekiro vids posted above at least, the Smach Z pushed the APU to hit 81 C while the Win2 remained at 67 C. I do think the Win2 radiates through the keyboard and out the back more than the Smach Z, though.
The real test is if the Win Max can keep below 90 C
Not looking so hot, down to teens fps in combat. Isn't Sekiro one of the better PC ports out there? I haven't had the chance to play it, but I haven't heard major performance complaints. I'd love to see how it runs other games.
I knew the name sounded familiar. I remember watching a video where they explain how sketchy the whole thing is. (no idea if this is a banned YouTuber, sorry in advance)
This thing is a bit of a monster. Bigger in size than a Switch and double the weight of the Win 2. And the Win 2 already feels heavy.
Also the choice of a 1080p screen is a mistake. It will be until those APUs get some embedded vram like the Iris Pro has. 1080p is just too much in terms of bandwidth for regular RAM. I know people demand it but for 5,5" displays 720p is perfect 264ppi which eliminates almost completely the need for AA, more is just a way to kill the SoC and the battery. Spend that in an AMOLED display or something.
And 15w TDP.
Also the choice of a 1080p screen is a mistake. It will be until those APUs get some embedded vram like the Iris Pro has. 1080p is just too much in terms of bandwidth for regular RAM. I know people demand it but for 5,5" displays 720p is perfect 264ppi which eliminates almost completely the need for AA, more is just a way to kill the SoC and the battery. Spend that in an AMOLED display or something.
And 15w TDP.
Looks about right. Capable at 720p (the comparable 2500U APU can play just about any game at 720p/30fps) but you're not going to be able to max out settings or hit 60fps on demanding titles without cranking up the power draw to 25W.
Not a banned YouTuber, but one whose videos are wholly unrepresentative on the current state of the Smach Z's production (which isn't to say it's been a smooth ride, it's been an absolute mess, nor will it be smooth from now until October/November when backers are supposed to get their units).
Either way, Team Smach was absolutely in the wrong for hitting their channel with a strike.
Disclosure: I backed it when during the initial (well, second one) Kickstarter.
Not a banned YouTuber, but one whose videos are wholly unrepresentative on the current state of the Smach Z's production (which isn't to say it's been a smooth ride, it's been an absolute mess, nor will it be smooth from now until October/November when backers are supposed to get their units).
Either way, Team Smach was absolutely in the wrong for hitting their channel with a strike.
Disclosure: I backed it when during the initial (well, second one) Kickstarter.
4 x 18650 cells, 3200 mAh each. Not exactly stellar battery life; at 15W you're looking at 90 minutes to two hours at most for gaming sessions.
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We'd be better off if companies start making Arm binaries since Windows is on Arm and Apple will put their PCs on it sooner or later
I wish there was a controller adapter for the Microsoft Surface line of tablets. My Surface Pro 3 is still decently powerful. A top current model is probably what you're looking for spec wise, but they're just not well suited for games unless you have like an xbox controller or something.
Wait, it's real this time?
Makes me wonder how a Vita that released now would perform in comparison.
Makes me wonder how a Vita that released now would perform in comparison.
Phawx has tested Sekiro at 25w
For that you'd have to pay a small fortune. The Win 2 has very good components imo and it costed me 550€ last year with tons of discounts.
This thing is HUGE & HEAVY af, costs around 900$ and it's on a minimum 15w TDP which matches a docked Switch.
It's not comparable to a Vita by any means.
For that you'd have to pay a small fortune. The Win 2 has very good components imo and it costed me 550€ last year with tons of discounts.
This thing is HUGE & HEAVY af, costs around 900$ and it's on a minimum 15w TDP which matches a docked Switch.
It's not comparable to a Vita by any means.
Sure, but a 1080p raises manufacturing costs that could have gone elsewhere (like a dpad and proper right stick, or a better form factor), for very low gains at that size.
It's always a compromise between various things. The GPD Win series seems to err closer on the side of those things you mentioned. This device wants to stand out on the higher resolution and larger screen, I'd guess.
That fan noise! It looks and feels so uncomfortable, who the hell is this device for? Who wants this?
>tfw I bought a GPD Win 2 but rarely play it due to the terrible sticks, d-pad, and buttons
>tfw Smach has Steam Controller touchpads instead of regular sticks and d-pads
I am so ready to fall in love with one of these micro-PCs but they keep fumbling at the 0.5 yard line.
How do you make such a cool device that crams so much into a functional tiny package and then just slap some mushy shitty d-pad on there.
>tfw Smach has Steam Controller touchpads instead of regular sticks and d-pads
I am so ready to fall in love with one of these micro-PCs but they keep fumbling at the 0.5 yard line.
How do you make such a cool device that crams so much into a functional tiny package and then just slap some mushy shitty d-pad on there.
Witcher 3
