So I was out earlier in the day to get some take-out, and right next door...
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With people commenting this is insane, other countries are not losing their minds etc. You are right, other countries are not. But you forget how much of a cesspool America really is. No other countries are as prone to violence as America. I still remember in time of disaster like the big earthquake we had when I was a kid people were looting each other instead of helping each other. We have so many people with the I got mine mentality. I don't blame those wanting to arm themselves.
Thankful to not have to think about that in the midst of our lockdown where I live. I absolutely get that there's a logical explanation for this due to the anterior gun situation in the US, but this is so fucking foreign to me.
I have trouble imagining living in some place where this is normal.
I have trouble imagining living in some place where this is normal.
This crossed my mind too. My only worry right now is to not become a symptomless carrier of the virus so that I unwittingly cause harm to others. If I had to worry about the ill intent of my fellow humans my stress levels would shoot right the heck up.
Stuff like this is also being reported happening in this country:
I bet it's not in other countries but that's the reality we live in here and the things that people are afraid of.
This is so, so fucking stupid. "No other countries are as prone to violence as America" sure buddy, tell that to Syria or Somalia or Mexico or Venezuela or Guatemala. There are many, many countries experiencing civil war, organized cartels with more power than the government, etc. Get some fucking perspective.
People want to prepare for the worst. It's why people have been stocking up on food and supplies.
Nobody knows how this is going to play out.
Americans have a very individualist mindset. And many believe the complete breakdown of society is not a distant, abstract thought.
If the situation gets bad enough, people will be desperate to make ends meet. We can argue about whether or not this is necessary. But people don't care. To many people, the downside of owning a firearm is just the few hundred dollars it cost to purchase. That's it.
You have absolutely no idea if this is real or not. Even the person who posted it has no idea if it's real.Stuff like this is also being reported happening in this country:
I bet it's not in other countries but that's the reality we live in here and the things that people are afraid of.
We don't, but even the police are warning people about it. It could be a hoax but when the police are alerting people about these types of things happening, of course people are going to be more on edge and it's not unprecedented either with people taking advantage of other situations or impersonating to gain access. So that makes it believable that people would do this now. The reason I even know about it is because my mother-in-law called to warn about it.
I've also seen a number of stories of "people with Corona licking doornobs/shopping carts" floating around. No real basis on it. I actually saw the above pic and although I don't doubt that scams like that could happen, it could even be some bored edgy kids dressing up for videos or something.
I mean, that's still batshit crazy for either party involved lol.
Lol
Police spread hoaxes all the fucking time, they are hardly a reliable source of information, especially if they have no firsthand evidence of anything. You are literally contributing to the fearmongering by posting this unsourced hoax. Don't do that, it is spreading misinformation.
Think the philly tweet needs semantics.
theft/burglary = no interaction with victim directly
Robbery = interaction, will be investigated
just guessing but they should clear it up
theft/burglary = no interaction with victim directly
Robbery = interaction, will be investigated
just guessing but they should clear it up
It's bullshit and it leads to hate crimes. This is the kind of dangerous misinformation spread that leads to people being harmed.
The people sharing that tweet here aren't interested in the context, they just want to fearmonger. Oh no, they aren't throwing the sex workers and people who wrote a bad check into jail immediately anymore! Society is breaking down! Give me a fucking break.
It was already posted in this thread but the point is that's the fear people are living with and it's understandable why people would want to protect themselves. They see reports like this, especially warnings from the police combined with all the other factors like I listed above including people physically fighting over toilet paper and it's really not hard to understand the fear people have of things getting worse.
What you are describing is fearmongering. This behavior encourages panic. It is unhealthy and dangerous.
The fact that the reaction to a global pandemic is American's mass buying weaponry is an indictment on our culture.
Saying I understand why something is happening isn't the same thing as advocating for such behavior. I'm not buying a gun myself because of what's going on nor am I telling others they should. I just find it more baffling that people don't at least understand why someone might do it. I find these posts about wanting to shoot the virus as a reason more baffling than that. Hell it even makes more sense than the people in other countries physically fighting over toilet paper.
No, you are definitely right on that point. That was incredibly insensitive of me and lack any perspective.
The point I fail to make is the ease of getting a gun in America makes it a unique situation here. Until we can get gun control in check I do not blame people for arming themselves. I am not condoning it saying it is the right thing to do. It is just we have a lot of people that have no business owning a gun can go down to their local wal mart and buy it. I personally think there will be more accidental shooting and gun accidents than people using it for legitimate reasons. On that same note, I can see why people are arming themselves because it is so damn easy to get a gun here even those who have no business owning a gun or having access to one.
You've used this toilet paper bit quite a number of times now. Thing is, I'm pretty sure I've seen waaaay more violent videos and fighting that occurred from Black Friday. So you can replace "toilet paper" with "video games" or something else as equally silly, and more chaos happens at THOSE events, in the past, than the minor things that have happened now, in actual uncertain times.
The point is lets not pretend this irrational behavior and physical violence is just a US thing. I mean someone physically attacked someone over paper to wipe their ass and it wasn't in the US yet we continue to see people shit on the US like it's the only one doing irrational acts of behavior or violence during this pandemic.
Thank you.
Also, violent crime in the U.S. has been in a steady decline for decades. As a nation we have some very big problems (And gun control is one of them) but there are places in this world where literal genocide is taking place on a regular basis.
Maybe because people aren't prepapring on taking on an army with all the heat they're buying?
People are doing crazy stupid irresponsible shit in France too but they sure as hell aren't preparing for an armed uprising.
Me, a galaxy brain: acquiring 1 x toy car, 1 x surgical tubing, 1 x paint gun and 1 x radscorpion poison gland to build a dart gun, cripple your legs and make your melee build borderline worthless.
Nothin Personnel kid.
Not everyone is buying enough guns to take on an army though. Sure mock the people who have like 20 guns and are buying more but someone going out to buy a single gun to protect their home isn't the same as that.
That's exactly why this is an unreasonable reaction though, it will lead to more accidents and it doesn't benefit any of the people buying guns.
Side note, big of you to admit that and apologies for being so aggressive in my post quoting you. It just set me off a bit, but takes a lot to reflect and realize why it was insensitive.
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O I wholeheartedly agree with you. I am just trying to get in the brains of those in line for one. Here in my city I saw the same thing and I told my wife that this will lead to more death. Accidently shooting, kids gaining access to it etc. Because I am positive most people will not put in the time and effort to learn about gun safety and practicing with their guns. I hate our gun culture here. But sadly I get their reasoning. Easy access to guns, fear of more guns in the world, need to fight fire with fire. I am no way shape or form saying it is the right reasoning at all. I am just saying I don't blame them because it is so normal and accepted here.
I despise guns.
But I am considering something for protection. The news of hatred towards Asian-Americans currently and knowing how stupid people can get has me on edge.
But I am considering something for protection. The news of hatred towards Asian-Americans currently and knowing how stupid people can get has me on edge.
Even if the argument is looting, all you really do is drastically increase the odds of yourself getting shot if you are looted. The looters have guns too. I'd rather someone take all my stuff than get shot in the face.
Honestly the people buying the guns are likely the ones planning on doing the looting.
Honestly the people buying the guns are likely the ones planning on doing the looting.
Hope it's 1095 carbon steel! I'd use that to slash through hordes of zombies without worrying too much about wear!
A lot im sure though i do know a guy who works for a sporting goods store who mentioned he had more first time gun buyers in the last 2 weeks than hes had in his 7 years of working there.
Having someone take your suplys might lead you or someone you love to dying because of that. People are losing their jobs and running out of money. What they have might literally be all that they have and government programs and facilities are getting swamped.
I'm glad I don't spend a lot of time worrying about the extreme unlikihood that someone would brazenly rob my house while I'm home then. Even if I did have a gun, like I said, I'd rather not get shot in the face, and I'd also rather not murder someone in defense of the goods in my house.
Every gun owner in America seems to think they're an exception to the problems caused by guns. If you own a gun, you're part of the problem. Stop trying to rationalize it.
Guns are not going to disappear in the near future in America. Because they are so common I don't blame people for owning a gun to protect their family.
Guns don't either. Instead of buying a $300 shotgun buy $300 worth of groceries.
I can't tell if you're trolling or what. Don't really care either.
Objectively false. You can hunt food with a gun. Or a bow. But guns are definitely easier.
