This is real, and bigger than what most people think.
There's much more than just adding Shadow as a playable character.
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"Sonic x Shadow Generations" seems to be the title of the Sonic Generations Remaster
- Thread starter Lant_War
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It's probably just some throw it all away mode with Shado-
Yooo Generations but with every Sonic stage ever let's gooooo!
I'm hoping for the best (a quality remaster with added content and a fixed final boss) but preparing for the worst (Sonic Colors remaster again).
Source? I want to believe
So it's not even a remaster, it's just Sonic Generations 2.
New stage for each game plus a cd, shadow, story book games, lost world, mania, and forces levels added
Maybe I'm alone on this, but I would love if the narrative got a complete overhaul. I was so disappointed with how hollow the handling of Sonic crossing paths with old events and characters felt. There was so much potential for Sonic returning to scenes like the battle with Perfect Chaos, interacting with Tikal, reflecting on that time, or with the boss battle against Shadow, etc. We mostly got a stone-faced Sonic and maybe 20 seconds of a fancy arrival, but nothing more.
I think Sonic Team was still feeling shame from the "NO CUTSCENES, NO FRIENDS, I JUST WANT PLAY" crowd, because it really felt like they deliberately did the minimum narrative required. In my eyes, a celebration of the Sonic games meant reflecting back on the touchstone moments with older characters or stories, and the original Generations fell really short of that.
Not expecting much obviously, a new story may be too much work- but it would be nice to see them brush up this barren aspect of the original game. Maybe more playable characters too.
I think Sonic Team was still feeling shame from the "NO CUTSCENES, NO FRIENDS, I JUST WANT PLAY" crowd, because it really felt like they deliberately did the minimum narrative required. In my eyes, a celebration of the Sonic games meant reflecting back on the touchstone moments with older characters or stories, and the original Generations fell really short of that.
Not expecting much obviously, a new story may be too much work- but it would be nice to see them brush up this barren aspect of the original game. Maybe more playable characters too.
Okay well now I'm not so hopeless on my wish above.
If this is all new stuff I'm a lot more sceptical, because Forces and Frontiers are absolute disgraces when it comes to the boost gameplay (and well everything else in Forces case).
I don't particularly like Generation's gameplay, but I pray it'll be at least as good as that.
I don't particularly like Generation's gameplay, but I pray it'll be at least as good as that.
1000%. Shadow is a cool character design.
I'd love if we get some new stages. Radical Highway was in the 3DS version, so they've got the soundtrack made already. Westopolos from Shadow the Hedgehog. Maybe White Acropolis from Sonic 06.
I miss when Shadow got his own stages.
Speaking of the 3DS version of Generations... man what a disappointment that was.
You could've easily had it so that the console version represented the console games while the handheld version represented the handheld games. There were even 3 proper eras you could've divided them into with Game Gear/GBA/DS. It was set up perfectly for that!
Instead we just get the #2 option for several console games with only Water Palace from Sonic Rush being bizarrely thrown into the mix as table scraps for what could've been.
What a wasted opportunity.
Surely they plan to release this on a Nintendo console (like they do every Sonic game). I'm curious if it will be Switch or Switch 2.
I guess it comes down to when this game is planned to release.
I guess it comes down to when this game is planned to release.
any chance we see new levels from CD, Shadow, Seven Rings, and Black Knight? That would make this game the ultimate celebration and make it feel not as short as before.
To be fair that was likely a budget bottleneck. I know the 3DS title is all original assets, but they're still coming from the same core of visual development from the lead platforms and soundtrack budget that probably couldn't go any further than a couple of exclusive stage themes.
Not that I don't agree.
There's also just not enough difference between classic and modern Sonic in the 3DS version, especially since Classic gets the homing attack midway through the campaign, making them identical other than one having a spin dash and one having a boost.
I also think quite a few of the picks are more interesting than the ones that got in (I like Emerald Coast better than Speed Highway, and like Tropical Eesort way more than Planet Wisp).
Plus, as you said, the one random Rush stage, otherwise with levels from mainline Sonic game.
Weird package overall.
I didn't play all of them, but I wasn't a fan, sadly. They were certainly better than the base game ones, where I disliked all but Sky Rail, but they still felt off. The visuals certainly put me off, I'll openly admit that, but it's mainly a mix of me not enjoying how boost Sonic controls in Frontiers, like why can't I either just use the main game physics or customize the boost physics too, and the fact that the fun only really comes into play when you start trying to break away from the level design by trying to skip things. With something like Unleashed or Generations, or hell the Adventure games, you can play the level as planned and have a good time, but with this DLC it's almost like they've designed it by placing all these precarious platforms and hazards, but are actually like "nah don't worry about all that, just boost dash past it". It just kinda feels like they turned the 'Unleashed playing in 3D in a 2D section' glitches into the intended way to tackle a level lol.
Frontiers' cyberspace stages being so thoroughly busted is exactly why I'm not getting my hopes up for the new content. And Sonic Generations was literally the only game that made me actively wish for paid DLC.
LMAO
I'm guessing that Sega were more interested in remastering their better-received 3D Sonic titles from that era like this and Colors first. I think this is the last of the 7/10 installments, though, so the lower-scoring games like Unleashed could be next.
Alright i'm in; Shadow Generations as its own side of the game? Wonder if the new stages will be from the 3D games Shadow is playable in (Adventure 2, Heroes, his own game, 06, Black Knight, Forces?) or covering the games the original Generations couldn't / didn't.
I guess while I'm ranting about the 3DS version of Generations, here are the stages I would've chosen if it actually reached its full potential as a celebration of the handheld games.
GG Era
Green Hill Zone (Sonic 1) OR Green Hills Zone (Sonic 2)
Sleeping Egg Zone (Sonic Chaos)
Sunset Park Zone (Sonic Triple Trouble)
Rival fight against Fang the Sniper
Boss fight against Classic Eggman (in some mech I dunno)
Advance Era
Secret Base (Sonic Advance 1)
Music Park (Sonic Advance 2)
Route 99 OR Twinkle Snow (Sonic Advance 3)
Rival fight against Emerl (brawler fight? Or maybe Emerl copies Sonic's moves somehow)
Boss fight against Non-Aggression (maybe using the tag mechanic in Advance 3 in some way)
Rush Era
Water Palace (Sonic Rush, already in)
Haunted Ship (Sonic Rush Adventure)
Tropical Resort (Sonic Colors, already in)
Rival fight against Blaze
Boss fight against Nega Mother Wisp
...Now I'm just sad. *sigh*
GG Era
Green Hill Zone (Sonic 1) OR Green Hills Zone (Sonic 2)
Sleeping Egg Zone (Sonic Chaos)
Sunset Park Zone (Sonic Triple Trouble)
Rival fight against Fang the Sniper
Boss fight against Classic Eggman (in some mech I dunno)
Advance Era
Secret Base (Sonic Advance 1)
Music Park (Sonic Advance 2)
Route 99 OR Twinkle Snow (Sonic Advance 3)
Rival fight against Emerl (brawler fight? Or maybe Emerl copies Sonic's moves somehow)
Boss fight against Non-Aggression (maybe using the tag mechanic in Advance 3 in some way)
Rush Era
Water Palace (Sonic Rush, already in)
Haunted Ship (Sonic Rush Adventure)
Tropical Resort (Sonic Colors, already in)
Rival fight against Blaze
Boss fight against Nega Mother Wisp
...Now I'm just sad. *sigh*
I'm really interested in what purpose Shadow plays in this. (other than to promote Sonic 3 movie)
I should not get myself hyped, but if it were me, I'd imagine if it was some sort of alternative timeline story that occurs as a splinter reality during the Time Eater's havoc. One where Shadow was restoring the timeline, caught inside it, or something. Small level tweaks to Sonic's modern stages, new voice lines from Shadow. Could get a lot out of it with relatively low cost. Less than a "plus Bowser's Fury" situation, but enough to make you wanna dip your toes back in.
I should not get myself hyped, but if it were me, I'd imagine if it was some sort of alternative timeline story that occurs as a splinter reality during the Time Eater's havoc. One where Shadow was restoring the timeline, caught inside it, or something. Small level tweaks to Sonic's modern stages, new voice lines from Shadow. Could get a lot out of it with relatively low cost. Less than a "plus Bowser's Fury" situation, but enough to make you wanna dip your toes back in.
Don't get me wrong, I'd delete boost style from Sonic in a heartbeat if I could. I'd love a return to organically designed, physics based open spaces like in SA1 stages any day. That said, if they're going to do boost, the DLC is probably the way I prefer it best, where you're encouraged to detach yourself off the beaten path and break the stages for shortcuts and secrets. It's pretty exhilarating to feel like Superman on a good run where you're literally flying in the air through stages at a breakneck speed.
Wait a minute bro. You just can't do that.
Please blink or nod for Green Hill, Chemical Plant, or Sky Sanctuary
I really, really hope any additional content is more effort than the recent games where extra "levels" are created by filling existing levels with ugly floating crates. Ideally we'd be getting a new set of 3 levels from games where Shadow had a large role, but I doubt we're going to be that lucky.
Outside of PlayStation, what other platforms is it coming to?
